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FNX45 Tactical is pretty huge, and has 15 +1 in .45. A lot of the pistols these days are going for interchangeable backstraps to better fit your hands: Sig P320, HK VP9 & 40, Glock Gen 4 models, etc.
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my kinda ape posted:Cost aside, are there any real life disadvantages to a heavier barrel other than the obvious increase in weight (and changes to the balance of the gun)? Weight is the main disadvantage. Only disadvantage in my book really. I tend to prefer heavy barrels since they don't open up shot groups with heat as quickly, and they also have much less POI deviation when mounting a can when compared to a lighter barrel.
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What's a good optic for a PTR 91? I've always thought eotech stuff was cool but I looked at the prices and gently caress that. $300 (or less preferably!) is about as high as I'd like to go unless it's absolutely worth spending more.
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Spend more. If you have $300 as your limit, buy an Aimpoint PRO if you can find one. Aimpoint Micro T1 or Comp M4s otherwise. Cheap glass won't hold up, and while huge strides have been made in stuff from Holosun and the like, it still breaks
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In that price range, for that kind of gun, I'd go with a Vortex Strike Eagle myself. 1-6x scope, $329 iirc.
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I absolutely love my Aimpoint H1, although that's probably more cost than some other options. Every bit as functional as an Aimpoint Comp M4 and way smaller/lighter. You get what you pay for with Aimpoint, their poo poo is nearly indestructible.
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What is the loving deal with the AR charging handle I mean god drat maybe I just need practice but it is a pain in the dick to use
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Smiling Jack posted:What is the loving deal with the AR charging handle I mean god drat maybe I just need practice but it is a pain in the dick to use http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCMGUNFIGHTER-Charging-Handle-s/123.htm They're not super gimmicky looking, just a lot stronger and hav better grip than the stock one. I've got the small latch on mine, which is perfect. My upper came with it, so I dunno if I'd drop $50 on a new charging handle personally. I don't think stock charging handles are all that bad. Also, I'm assuming you're a right handed shooter; how are you manipulating it? One finger? Two fingers?
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Pesticide20 posted:Just want to throw out that by larger I meant frame size, not caliber. Not that I'm opposed to getting something in .45, just was wondering what's decent these days, as every time I look at pistols I almost feel overwhelmed by the options. Get a 1911. Unless you're a loving communist/terrorist sympathizer.
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Godholio posted:Get a 1911. Unless you're a loving communist/terrorist sympathizer. 1911s are one of those guns that while you're better off getting something a bit more modern to start with, you're going to probably end up with one sooner or later.
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Larry Vickers had this to say about 1911squote:The 1911 is an enthusiast’s pistols. In order to keep that gun running you have to, it’s not optional, you have to become your own armorer to a degree. You have to be able to diagnose and fix minor problems on an end user level. If you’re not willing to sign up for that, frankly you have no business running a 1911 for anything other than occasional recreational shooting. If you’re going to put yourself in harm’s way with that gun and you’re not willing to sign up for that, then you need to avoid it. Of course he was pimping the HK45 he helped design instead, but the point is that the 1911, while iconic, is a gun that will require more maintenance & care than a garden variety glock
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I've only put about 3k rounds through mine, but that seems exaggerated. I've never had to do more than a standard teardown for cleaning/oiling. It's a little more complicated than, say, a Beretta, but if it's not your first time cracking open a pistol you can probably figure it out without youtube.
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Booblord Zagats posted:Seriously considering having my S&W revolver etched and inlaid by an artist I know who does some pretty neat metal work. It's a blued gun and he's trying to talk me in to doing some silver inlay and getting teak grips that he can do some laser engraving on them as well. He's been researching the old Tiffany custom guns and the late 1800s European firearms engraving and wants to try it out on my cheapo rattlesnake shooter. All it will cost me is the silver used and the price of the grips Pesticide20 posted:Looking for some pistol recommendations at the moment. I have a Sig P229 chambered for .40 S&W, but I'm thinking of getting something a little larger. Suggestions?
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Dead Reckoning posted:Just for recreational shooting, or is this something you might have to trust your life to? Occasionally plinking, self defense if necessary.
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my kinda ape posted:What's a good optic for a PTR 91? I've always thought eotech stuff was cool but I looked at the prices and gently caress that. What are you looking for in an optic? Trying to push the range? Mid-range? Up close? I dunno because I don't have an optic for mine, but what you're looking for willc hange the advice given
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So it seems like if I go down this road I should just get a shotty with like 50 shells and then upgrade to an AR clone if I actually shoot the drat thing. Does this seem reasonable? e: also would appreciate make/model/quote
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ARs are way more fun and useful for multiple purposes (plinking, longer range shooting, etc.), plus you can build a cheap one for ~$500.
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Agree, shotguns and ARs are apples and oranges as far as the types of shooting you do with them.
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Pesticide20 posted:Looking for some pistol recommendations at the moment. I have a Sig P229 chambered for .40 S&W, but I'm thinking of getting something a little larger. Suggestions? I've always been happy with my CZ75 SP-01.
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I thought for sure somebody in GiP posted about this a while back, but I can't dig up the post. Has anybody ever owned an Inland Mfg M1 Carbine? They look poo poo hot, but I always prefer personal anecdotes over paid reviews. https://www.inland-mfg.com/assets/images/2016%20Flyer.pdf
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I have a NPM M1 purchased through the CMP http://www.gunbroker.com/item/617093573
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Arc Light posted:I thought for sure somebody in GiP posted about this a while back, but I can't dig up the post. Has anybody ever owned an Inland Mfg M1 Carbine? They look poo poo hot, but I always prefer personal anecdotes over paid reviews. Well it's not the original company for one. Two those are practically as much as an original.
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FastestGunAlive posted:What are you looking for in an optic? Trying to push the range? Mid-range? Up close? I dunno because I don't have an optic for mine, but what you're looking for willc hange the advice given Mid-to close range I'd say. Probably closer to mid.
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Pesticide20 posted:Occasionally plinking, self defense if necessary. You already have the P229, which covers the "oh God what if I have to defend myself" niche pretty well. If you're planning to sell it to fund your new purchase, I personally like the Walther PPQ 5", and I've heard good things about the P320 full size. If you are going to keep it, you may as well get something that is fun to plink with. Depending on your budget, an uncoverted Ruger Single Six is a neat little take on the Cowboy gun. If you're shopping up-market, High Standard automatic target pistols, .32 wadcutter target pistols, and PPC revolvers are all great shooters. There is also the option of getting a revolver. Smith & Wesson .38 or .357 revolvers are still cheap, or you could get a Ruger GP-100. They have good to excellent triggers, and let you plink with low recoil .38 special wadcutters or shoot full power .38spl +P or .357 mag. They are sub-optimal for self defense compared to a semi auto pistol, but are a drat sight better than nothing, and .357 magnum hasn't gotten any less deadly since 1935.
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Dead Reckoning posted:There is also the option of getting a revolver. Smith & Wesson .38 or .357 revolvers are still cheap, or you could get a Ruger GP-100. They have good to excellent triggers, and let you plink with low recoil .38 special wadcutters or shoot full power .38spl +P or .357 mag. They are sub-optimal for self defense compared to a semi auto pistol, but are a drat sight better than nothing, and .357 magnum hasn't gotten any less deadly since 1935. I had a GP100 a while back and the trigger out of the box kinda sucked, but that's easily fixed with a Wolff power spring pack and watching a youtube video on how to swap springs. Also changing the factory sights to something useful is incredibly easy as all you do is depress a plunger for the front sight blade and it falls off, then punch a pin for the rear sight. Super simple poo poo. But boy oh boy when revolvers gently caress up, they're a pain in the rear end to get going again. Kinda want to get another one, though. A 4" this time instead of the 6" I had, that thing was just a smidge too long.
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My .357 has a 4" barrel and I'm glad I went with that instead of a 6". Used to have one of those H&R 922s and it was like looking down a dowel rod when I shot it. Something like an 8" barrel on a .22 revolver is just ridiculous.
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Found a semi-local gun range that has a great selection of pistols for rent, and there's a price break at three. What is the difference between the Glock 30SF and 30 Gen 4? I see a bunch of contradictory nonsense on various forums, but on Glock's own website the specs are loving identical and so are the apparent features in the images. It's not the same photo, but it might as well be the same gun pictured twice.
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Have you checked the Glock thread in TFR? E http://www.glockforum.net/forum/glock-talk-discussion/3022-glock-30-30-sf-differences.html https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=432620
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I hear you guys like 4 inches. 357 club checking in.
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IMO, five is the correct number of inches for a .357 revolver. 
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Anything over the lug is a waste. 
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SquirrelyPSU posted:So it seems like if I go down this road I should just get a shotty with like 50 shells and then upgrade to an AR clone if I actually shoot the drat thing. Does this seem reasonable? If you can't afford a used Glock 19, then get a shotgun - Remington 870, Mossberg 500 or 590. Buy a shitload of ammo and learn how to run it, and learn how to handle it inside your house. If you can afford a Glock 19, but not a quality AR, then buy the Glock and some spare magazines & a good holster & belt. If you can afford an AR, buy an AR, and a dozen or so magazines (unless you took more home when you ETSed), then a quality red dot. Also invest in a small & bright flashlight to keep with your pistol. Something like 70% of shootings take place in dark environments and with cheap AA / AAA lights coming out of China for $30 with 100+ lumens, there's no excuse not to have one.
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Also if you're purchasing a firearm.for home defense also invest in poo poo like an alarm system, good deadbolts, etc Stuff to either wake you up when you're at home or act as a deterrent when you aren't home. A dog is not a reliable home guard or alarm system, don't count on fluffy.
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Dead Reckoning posted:IMO, five is the correct number of inches for a .357 revolver. You son of a bitch I've been wanting a 5" 27 for ages  sky shark posted:If you can't afford a used Glock 19, then get a shotgun - Remington 870, Mossberg 500. Try to avoid new Remingtons, though. QC has fallen off super hard, and the Express line is especially bad. 500s are also kinda ho hum but at least the finish on those won't rub off on your hands. Come on, Remington  Summitgunbroker usually has a good supply of former police 870s, including older and nicer 870 Wingmaster riot guns.
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Syrian Lannister posted:Have you checked the Glock thread in TFR? No, I can only handle so much self-fellatio before I lose interest and re-proclaim that I'll never own a glock. But this page actually has some side-by sides of the standard G30 and the SF, AND a description of the difference. The SF's backstrap has 3mm taken out. Fake edit:  Nevermind, the Glocks run $200-300 more than the Springfield and M&P I'm looking at.
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If you still have a military ID (not sure if IRR counts, depends on the dealer I suppose) S&W has a huge military discount. Just go to a S&W LE dealer and you can buy their LE SKU guns. I think it's $450ish for an M&P with factory night sights and 3 mags. Plus sometimes they have a $50-$100 rebate on top of that.
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That's basically what I'm doing, if I go with the M&P, but the price is actually a little better than that. The XDS will be about 450, the various G30s are 650+.
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Glock does the same thing for LEOs and active duty / retired MIL with their blue label program - https://us.glock.com/bluelabel
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If you're looking at Austrian maybe look at the steyr line. I doubt you'll find one to rent at a range though. And mags are probably expensive with a bonus side of scarce.  But pew pew space gun pew. I carry a raging semi for the Steyr L40 and the Baby Eagle in .40 with the longer barrel. If I had no restraint, a chunk of my tax return would be going to one of those.
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sky shark posted:Glock does the same thing for LEOs and active duty / retired MIL with their blue label program - https://us.glock.com/bluelabel Does ruger do this
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