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Godholio posted:No, I can only handle so much self-fellatio before I lose interest and re-proclaim that I'll never own a glock. But this page actually has some side-by sides of the standard G30 and the SF, AND a description of the difference. The SF's backstrap has 3mm taken out. You're not the only one. They feel all wrong with that weird grip and they just recoil wrong to me.
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Capn Beeb posted:You son of a bitch I've been wanting a 5" 27 for ages Oh, no worries then, because that's just a pre-27  Nostalgia4Butts posted:Does ruger do this Not as far as I know, probably because Ruger doesn't chase a lot of Mil or LE contracts.
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i thought yall got to keep the gun if you killed someone with it
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Proud Christian Mom posted:i thought yall got to keep the gun if you killed someone with it No, that's scalps*. *SEALS only.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Oh, no worries then, because that's just a pre-27  Edit: I kinda want to pick up a 4" model 28, too. At least those are easier to find. Beeb fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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Little lady wants a  Taurus curve. Anyone know if they're any good?
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I've never seen one of those or even heard of it until now. I recommend finding a place that carries them and let her handle it. Even better would be finding a range that'll rent one out.
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I can't decide whether they designed the gun like that or it was bad q/a and they just went with it
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Godholio posted:I've never seen one of those or even heard of it until now. I recommend finding a place that carries them and let her handle it. Even better would be finding a range that'll rent one out. She got to fire one already at the range. We have a gun dealer out here who does a ladies night type thing where he encourages women to come out and shoot guns. She ended up digging the Curve and hating the LC9, which surprised me. I'm a dilettante at best when it comes to semi-auto pistols but I have heard awful things about Taurus guns in general for the last 6 years or so, so I was curious if this is the exception to the rule or just garbage
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A few of their models are built on old hardware from other companies. Taurus bought an old Beretta factory and continued operations with the same tooling and workers, just rebranding the product as the PT-92. I've actually heard the reliability is good, though. Edit: Here's a pretty interesting review of the Curve. Godholio fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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Godholio posted:A few of their models are built on old hardware from other companies. Taurus bought an old Beretta factory and continued operations with the same tooling and workers, just rebranding the product as the PT-92. I've actually heard the reliability is good, though.  Even Foghorn was saying its poo poo.
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I, too, have always asked the question of "what if nerf and Lego made a real gun" Wait, no I haven't.
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Eesh. Yeah, that review seems to confirm a few fears.
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Booblord Zagats posted:Eesh. Yeah, that review seems to confirm a few fears. While not a normal strategy, does your wife react to not wanting "cheap brands and labels?" That or show her this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_YWNo1f-o While that's just Brazil; there was also this: http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/07/taurus_agrees_to_voluntary_rec.html https://www.tauruscartersettlement.com/ I'll also say this having held both the Judge and the Governor, while both being gimmick guns, the Judge felt like a hunk of crap vs the Governor. not caring here posted:I, too, have always asked the question of "what if nerf and Lego made a real gun" You to can work for Kel-Tec!
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MazelTovCocktail posted:While not a normal strategy, does your wife react to not wanting "cheap brands and labels?" She doesn't care. She grew up on a ranch and having her clothes come from Tractor Supply, Wal Mart and places like that so she doesn't give two shits about the label on something. She does like shooting my Bersa PPK knock-off though, so I'll probably just give her that even though its a bit heavier than she wanted e: and yeah, the judge is a turd, I don;t care for the governor either. I'm a revolver guy and I've had 2 Taurus revolvers (a 38sp and a 44) and they were both good guns with no issues in my years with them, but I'dn be remiss not to point outr that my Rossi re-manufacture of the same 38 model was miles better in terms of mechanical smoothness and accuracy and my S&W 357 is even more-so. So I was curious if they'd gotten any better with semi-autos after seeing a friends PT24 be a laughable poo poo-gun for years. It would appear they have not Booblord Zagats fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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Booblord Zagats posted:She doesn't care. She grew up on a ranch and having her clothes come from Tractor Supply, Wal Mart and places like that so she doesn't give two shits about the label on something.
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Are all the good red dots disposable batteries or am I just not searching hard enough for one that can be used from a nice usb charger?
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Nobody makes a rechargable USB AFAIK. Closest you could get is by buying a AA or 123A powered one and using rechargable batteries in it.
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sky shark posted:If you can't afford a used Glock 19, then get a shotgun - Remington 870, Mossberg 500 or 590. Buy a shitload of ammo and learn how to run it, and learn how to handle it inside your house. I'm a bridge inspector. I have the best and most luxurious flashlights. I appreciate the post though. Exactly what I was hoping to see.
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M_Gargantua posted:Are all the good red dots disposable batteries or am I just not searching hard enough for one that can be used from a nice usb charger? Not technically a red dot, but Vortex has a new Eotech knock off that has a micro USB port for charging. They're supposed to start shipping sometime this spring.
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Booblord Zagats posted:
The positive talk on Rossi revolvers is kind of relieving. My .357mag is a Rossi and watching the rear sight fly off at the range during my ccw class was really off-putting, but it was cheap and everything important mechanically works like a charm. And the rear sight was re-tapped for a larger screw and as much metal-metal adhesive as physically possible without being noticeable. I wouldn't buy a Rossi again, but I'm comfortable with the one I have. Until I can dump money on that R8 someone mentioned before in another thread. But I don't have that kind of gun money laying around.
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:The positive talk on Rossi revolvers is kind of relieving. My .357mag is a Rossi and watching the rear sight fly off at the range during my ccw class was really off-putting, but it was cheap and everything important mechanically works like a charm. And the rear sight was re-tapped for a larger screw and as much metal-metal adhesive as physically possible without being noticeable. I'd buy another Rossi if I needed another short barrel snake shooter I could leave in a drawer until I need to shoot some substandard hand load at something 12 feet away and never, ever gently caress up in the slightest or need any service past the occasional oiling. Because It does that job exceedingly well
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Part of me really wants a Chiappa Rhino in a 5" barrel for my first revolver purchase, mainly because I'm into super weird engineering (it's the same reason I bought my project car, really. Rotary engines are fascinating, and so are underslung revolvers).
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It never went into production but the G11 was the holy poo poo  of firearms engineering
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Smiling Jack posted:It never went into production but the G11 was the holy poo poo I've always said, if you're going to buy something that would benefit from lots of little springs, levers, and gears, like a wrist watch, or a handgun, buy it from the Germans. Because there is nothing German engineers love more than lots of little springs, levers, and gears.   Capn Beeb posted:But boy oh boy when revolvers gently caress up, they're a pain in the rear end to get going again. Professor Bling posted:Part of me really wants a Chiappa Rhino in a 5" barrel for my first revolver purchase, mainly because I'm into super weird engineering (it's the same reason I bought my project car, really. Rotary engines are fascinating, and so are underslung revolvers).
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Dead Reckoning posted:The trigger on the one I tried was somewhere between "poo poo" and "rear end." Well, that's a shame. I'll have to see if I can find one to test, then.
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I'd like an AR that has the short stroke piston action versus the Gas operated direct impingement system. I had a silenced HK-416 variant with a forward grip and I forget what PEQ/Optics but I loved the gun when I was playing cowboys and Indians in Afghanistan and Iraq. I wasn't a door kicker, but I had to go on a lot of missions for SSE / Battlefield interrogating. Is buying a civilian H&K the only way I can get that piston action? Or do other manufacturers make similar products? Christ it's gonna be pricey to get an H&K and then a long wait and even more money for a silencer. Plus whatever optics I decide on. Oh god all my money. Is it also NFA to get a really short barrel too? The thing I loved about having a suppressed weapon was that I didn't need ear pro when practicing on the range. I'd like that again as a civvie.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:I'd like an AR that has the short stroke piston action versus the Gas operated direct impingement system. I had a silenced HK-416 variant with a forward grip and I forget what PEQ/Optics but I loved the gun when I was playing cowboys and Indians in Afghanistan and Iraq. I wasn't a door kicker, but I had to go on a lot of missions for SSE / Battlefield interrogating. MR556A1 is the civ variant, separate tax stamps ($200 ea) for the can and registering the lower as an SBR. Probably less expensive to grab a decent lower to register, then order the shorty upper since as it's not technically the "gun" part you can just get it shipped to your door. There are definitely other manufacturers doing the piston AR thing, but HK seems to be the one with the least bitching about traditional problems you'd hear with a direct impingement to piston ghetto-rig.
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Cans need stamps and SBRs need registered... for now. Didn't the GOP want to introduce legislation to make it easier to get around that poo poo?
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:I'd like an AR that has the short stroke piston action versus the Gas operated direct impingement system. I had a silenced HK-416 variant with a forward grip and I forget what PEQ/Optics but I loved the gun when I was playing cowboys and Indians in Afghanistan and Iraq. I wasn't a door kicker, but I had to go on a lot of missions for SSE / Battlefield interrogating. There are other companies that make piston uppers. LWRC is the top dog outside of HK, then there's Sig, Adams Arms and some others. I used to have a LWRC upper, but I sold it because it wasn't as accurate as I wanted and the recoil impulse was very noticeably sharper than a direct gas AR upper. It ran cleaner, sure, but about the same time I realized that my direct gas uppers were running just as reliably. (I keep my guns well l00bed and don't clean them often.) And then there's the whole replacement parts commonality thing. Supposedly they're better for short barrels and can use. But I have both and have done just fine with direct gas and regular oiling. That said, suppressed short weapons are fun as hell. I still keep my earpro on for anything supersonic though. Yeah there's legislation introduced, but I honestly don't see it passing. But then I didn't see the current election results happening and welp here we are.  (147gr 9mm is subsonic by default, and that out of the canned 5K there is FUN ON A BUN.)
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I never shoot full speed rounds with a suppressor on without earpros. Not even with a big rear end can. That sonic whipcrack is a sneaky bastard. It's a lot less mean for sure with 5.56, the bigger the hole the less the suppressor effect is even with subsonics.
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Professor Bling posted:Well, that's a shame. I'll have to see if I can find one to test, then. The generation 2 allegedly has better triggers, and frankly, if you want to own this masterpiece:  or the drug lord gun from a 90s film set in 2030,  ...who am I to get in your way? Now, on the other hand, the nice thing about collecting firearms is that there are a huge number of designs that tried out absolutely nuts operating principles over the years, so there are lots to pick from if you are a fan of unreasonable engineering choices.
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Dead Reckoning posted:The generation 2 allegedly has better triggers, and frankly, if you want to own this masterpiece: They dont look comfy at all to hold.
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Pesticide20 posted:That looks like something    (I believe TFR members own something like 1/5 of all the MTR-8s ever imported.) Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:That's because it's a poor man's version of the Mateba revolvers, which the people who make animes apparently have a big ol' throbbing hard on for. They look pretty fuckin' cool. It's too bad they're rare as hell and handguns are a pain in the dick law-wise in Canada because god drat, I'd own one. I'm not that much of a fan of the MTR-8 though. Bit too weird looking for me.
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