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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
hello i am a deanbro from 2004 and i spamposted dean woulda won all over my #politics channel over at synIRC

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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
/nick KerryWasBad2004

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

logikv9 posted:

hello i am a deanbro from 2004 and i spamposted dean woulda won all over my #politics channel over at synIRC

logikv9 posted:

/nick KerryWasBad2004

must feel good to be right all the time

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

must feel good to be right all the time

no because i printed 20,000 Edwards Woulda Won shirts for 2008 but uh that didn't work out

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

logikv9 posted:

no because i printed 20,000 Edwards Woulda Won shirts for 2008 but uh that didn't work out

That would be pretty stupid, because Obama would have won - AND HE DID

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

logikv9 posted:

hello i am a deanbro from 2004 and i spamposted dean woulda won all over my #politics channel over at synIRC

i was also a deanbro. Welcome to the inner circle

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

it me, the guy who spammed "Kucinich woulda winnit" in the AOL chatroom

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
when dean got fired up and did all that yelling i thought that was cool. i was like hell yea thsi guy is fired up for democracy. and then ppl were like "this guy is hosed up" and i didnt get that sentiment. still dont. i thought the roo ya we're gonna goto state, we're gona got to place, yea, yagghh. hell, i thought thatw as awesome. man ppl in the blue party can be hosed up. i bet the ppl that flamed him then turned into hellery supporters. lmfao. Like Al. gently caress off.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
Couple facts about real life:

1) Bernie would have won, EASILY
2) Anchovies on pizza FTW

breaklaw
May 12, 2008

Smythe posted:

when dean got fired up and did all that yelling i thought that was cool. i was like hell yea thsi guy is fired up for democracy. and then ppl were like "this guy is hosed up" and i didnt get that sentiment. still dont. i thought the roo ya we're gonna goto state, we're gona got to place, yea, yagghh. hell, i thought thatw as awesome. man ppl in the blue party can be hosed up. i bet the ppl that flamed him then turned into hellery supporters. lmfao. Like Al. gently caress off.

Nobody thought that stupid poo poo until the media, including most of the Liberal Media, started framing it that way.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 234 days!
The truly horrible possibility is that if Bernie lost, we'd have to put up with "Hillary would have won."

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

breaklaw posted:

Nobody thought that stupid poo poo until the media, including most of the Liberal Media, started framing it that way.

Liberal Media. lmfao. Build yourself a faraday cage, at the bottom of the ocean.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Hodgepodge posted:

The truly horrible possibility is that if Bernie lost, we'd have to put up with "Hillary would have won."

That's not possible, because Bernie would have won.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Bernie would have won.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Hey rmemeber that John Kerry pixel art flash game featuring Mr T for the 2004 elections where I believe Howard Dean was a boss enemy?

I'm pretty sure it existed

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
I refuse to believe that Bernie Sanders would've made the grievous tactical errors that Hillary did. He also totally would've energized the base and the ex-industrial great lakes states that Hillary like forgot about, making it hard for Trump to have accomplished the things he did in the election. He has massive crossover appeal, because voters are largely politically disengaged and instead vote on intangibles like authenticity.

Bloomberg might've stabbed him in the back though.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
http://www.scuzzstuff.org/bushgame/bg16.swf it turns out Howard Dean was a playable character who uses his incredible scream to bust through walls lol amazing

e: the game also presupposes a Jeb! presidency in future lol wrong again Kerry

jBrereton has issued a correction as of 23:48 on Jan 30, 2017

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Bernie would have held rallies where he railed against Republicans poisoning the water supply in the Rust Belt, and that would be it.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

logikv9 posted:

hello i am a deanbro from 2004 and i spamposted dean woulda won all over my #politics channel over at synIRC

dean legit got robbed. he was the right guy at the wrong time. a shame he turned into a weirdo evil lobbylord bc he used to be p cool and he's way smarter than the rest of these chumps.

Caithness
Nov 10, 2012

HEY!!!
YOU CAN SEE ME, CAN'T YOU? THEN WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME!?
The OP is absolutely correct. Bernie would have lost the primary even if Wasserman-Schultz wasn't the DNC chair and even if there were no super delegates. In the world where he wins the primary you have to make so many changes that the general can't be compared to what actually happened.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Bernie would have held rallies where he railed against Republicans poisoning the water supply in the Rust Belt, and that would be it.

Thats insanity though. You never draw attention to the difficulties of the working class once you no longer need their primary vote. What will the suburban Republicans think? What will the wokelords think? Will it solve racism, even if racism is deeply embedded in the reasons for why the water supply is poisonous in some areas?

No, we must say nothing but Donald Trump is a bad man. A very bad man. And also that there are two sides to the story of the Natives desperately fighting an oil pipeline across their land. But mostly that Trump is a bad man.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

I should point out that favorability rating is the single most reliable predictor for popular vote share in a presidential election, that Trump and Hillary's were both record lows, and that Bernie would have won.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Grondoth posted:

I refuse to believe that Bernie Sanders would've made the grievous tactical errors that Hillary did. He also totally would've energized the base and the ex-industrial great lakes states that Hillary like forgot about, making it hard for Trump to have accomplished the things he did in the election. He has massive crossover appeal, because voters are largely politically disengaged and instead vote on intangibles like authenticity.

Bloomberg might've stabbed him in the back though.

Bloomberg wouldn't have run, but if he did that greedy, spineless little scold would have got less of the vote than McMullin.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Bernie would have held rallies where he railed against Republicans poisoning the water supply in the Rust Belt, and that would be it.

lmfao to think that republicans literally poisoned their owned ppl and still won hahahahaha BERNIE WOULD HAVE WON

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Caithness posted:

The OP is absolutely correct. Bernie would have lost the primary even if Wasserman-Schultz wasn't the DNC chair and even if there were no super delegates. In the world where he wins the primary you have to make so many changes that the general can't be compared to what actually happened.

Wrong, and, yo're stupid lol. Irredeemably stupid.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Not a Step posted:

Thats insanity though. You never draw attention to the difficulties of the working class once you no longer need their primary vote. What will the suburban Republicans think? What will the wokelords think? Will it solve racism, even if racism is deeply embedded in the reasons for why the water supply is poisonous in some areas?

No, we must say nothing but Donald Trump is a bad man. A very bad man. And also that there are two sides to the story of the Natives desperately fighting an oil pipeline across their land. But mostly that Trump is a bad man.

gently caress off

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment
Actually, Bernie would have won.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

anime was right posted:

dean legit got robbed. he was the right guy at the wrong time. a shame he turned into a weirdo evil lobbylord bc he used to be p cool and he's way smarter than the rest of these chumps.

Every morning I get up and I yell YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH to get my energy levels HIGH

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

lol at the guy who adamantly backed Hillary Clinton for months claiming he has any sort of valid political insight at all

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
To the generation who became politically aware during Trump's ascendancy, the fact that Dean lost because he screamed Yeah once will be totally incomprehensible.

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe

Jeb! Repetition posted:

To the generation who became politically aware during Trump's ascendancy, the fact that Dean lost because he screamed Yeah once will be totally incomprehensible.

In 2040 Barron is going to lose when PewDiePie2 derides his scat video as 'amateur hour' in "Time for poo poo and Piss", America's top streaming reality show.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Smythe posted:

when dean got fired up and did all that yelling i thought that was cool. i was like hell yea thsi guy is fired up for democracy. and then ppl were like "this guy is hosed up" and i didnt get that sentiment. still dont. i thought the roo ya we're gonna goto state, we're gona got to place, yea, yagghh. hell, i thought thatw as awesome. man ppl in the blue party can be hosed up. i bet the ppl that flamed him then turned into hellery supporters. lmfao. Like Al. gently caress off.

the media killed him

guy gets a little fired up at a rally and next thing you know every news channel and comedy show is calling him a raving lunatic

breaklaw
May 12, 2008

Caithness posted:

The OP is absolutely correct. Bernie would have lost the primary even if Wasserman-Schultz wasn't the DNC chair and even if there were no super delegates. In the world where he wins the primary you have to make so many changes that the general can't be compared to what actually happened.

Change 1 thing and he might have.

Bernie never had once front-runner status even for a day, but if he would have won both Iowa and New Hampshire, they probably would have had to given him that. He won NH, but Hillary won Iowa by the slimmest of margins, and 2 days later they people were saying that the primary was actually decided by some arcane caucus process. Something about coin flips or something, I don't remember. Regardless, whether it was the Iowa Democratic Party, or the DNC or DWS or whoever, I personally believe there might have been a finger on the scale in that situation.

If Bernie had started off the primary season by stealing official front-runner status from the anointed Clinton, this election would have probably gone very, very differently. The media, Obama, everyone would have handled themselves differently after that.

forbidden dialectics
Jul 26, 2005





Mmm been waiting for an opportunity to make this post

What could have been...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSmr0l010pQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVS-itGeeEA

Imagine ads like this during the general instead of "TRUMP BAD, VOTE ME"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpGqLSAaOw0


I saw some people in the Dem thread say good things about Howard Dean. Please remember, he is a piece of poo poo!
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/14/howard-dean-lobbyist/

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Still gets the tear ducts flowing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP4Xasc1t7Q

quote:

A white socialist millennial gender traitor nursing union professor and berniebro was teaching a class on Bernie Sanders, known racist
“Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and phone bank for Bernie and accept that he is the most progressive candidate the united states has ever known, even greater than Barrack Obama!”
At this moment, a brave, Beltway insider, second wave feminist clinton surrogate who had donated under their name, their spouses name, their name and spouses name for the general election, and under the name of each adult child in the housd and understood the necessity of deregulating wall street and fully supported all foreign policy decision made by Kissinger stood up and held up a foreclosure notice.
“Whose fault was the 2008 economic collapse?”
The arrogant professor smirked quite sexistly and smugly replied “wall street and congress for not regulating wall street properly”
“Wrong. Its been almost a decade since the bailout. If it was the big unregulated banks as you say... Shouldn't we be in another bubble by now”
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped her chalk and smartphone with the dank Bernie memes Facebook page up. She stormed out of the room crying those berniebro crocodile tears.
The convention applauded and all pledged to Hillary that day and completely undid all campaign finance reform. An eagle named “practical progressivism” flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. A multitude of paid speeches were given in front of goldman-sachs, and Kennedy himself showed up and personally struck Bernie Sanders from the remaining primary ballots.
The professor lost her tenure and was fired the next day. She died of Canadian healthcare waiting lists and was tossed into the lake of fire for all eternity.
No we can't.

Hmm, too bad more people didn't show up to congress to hear him be correct about literally everything!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAE3hXI-hRw

"Will never EVER come to pass!" vs this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYOf6hXGx6M

Sexist Bernie Bro Kshama Sawant,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kshama-sawant/bernie-vs-hillary-whats-a-feminist_b_9367996.html

More racist drivel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOCEQJtcEIw

John McCain even liked him
http://observer.com/2015/10/john-mccain-bernie-sanders-not-hillary-clinton-has-record-of-advocacy-for-vets/

Never forget
https://mobile.twitter.com/politico/status/713474676765417477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

HA! Good one, man (but no really, she should have, because he would have won)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/its-time-for-hillary-clin_b_9555422.html

Those accursed BERNIE BROS!! Not us progressive Hillary supporters :)
http://berniebrowho.tumblr.com/

Haha, if only someone could have seen the Trump Presidency coming!
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/303804/if-the-democrats-lose-in-november-it-will-be-their-own-drat-fault/
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/donald-trump-and-politics-of-resentment.html?m=1

Certainly, these wonderful folks had zero egg on their face come November!
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/...emocratic-party

Yeah, not rigged at all!
http://harpers.org/archive/2016/11/swat-team-2/



Oh and one final thing...

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Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


bernie would have won

stranger danger
May 24, 2006
i miss the post-election Month of Silence when most of the hillarymen had the probity to either admit they were brutally wrong (like most of us) or at least to shut the gently caress up

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
I think we are just now only beginning to understand the danger of going against the will of birds when, as has been their timeless sacred duty, they annoit the next leader of the free world.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

logikv9 posted:

no because i printed 20,000 Edwards Woulda Won shirts for 2008 but uh that didn't work out

Okay, alt-history thought experiment: Say Kerry wins the 2004 election, his VP is Edwards. 2008 Election, Kerry runs again, the Edwards scandal poo poo blows up on him against (for the sake of some consistency) McCain/Palin. Where do the United States end up today?

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

stranger danger posted:

i miss the post-election Month of Silence when most of the hillarymen had the probity to either admit they were brutally wrong (like most of us) or at least to shut the gently caress up

The very worst ones are still gone from C-SPAM and hopefully will be forever.

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