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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Heil, Honey I'm Hitler: The Game

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Barudak posted:

In summary; it is mechanically absolutely awful and from a narrative perspective it is explicity to the point of the main character/developer of the game in game telling you post modernism is wrong and that the game is not post modern.

post modernism has lost what little meaning it still had to me now.

Is there an obvious concept that 'post modernism' is standing in for in the game's narrative, or is it just a massively over-elaborate rant about doing art wrong?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Anime often has some weird demographic stuff going on where it's aimed primarily at schoolgirls and secondarily at aimless adult men, because... Japan.

That said, genres like 'shonen', 'seinen' and 'shoujo' are literally named after their target demographic.

That said a lot of it is also nostalgia as high school is probably the last time most Japanese people remember being allowed a smidgen of individuality and having positive social interactions. Look at Aggressive Retsuko for a closer depiction of what adult life is like.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Isn't there a thing in Japan where being given an office by the window is the equivalent of being kicked upstairs?

Japan seems to have basically been ahead of the pack with the late capitalism grind where children are under immense amounts of pressure to succeed in arbitrary hoops and make connects to get what few opportunities for a stable middle-class life are left, and all too aware that any mistake or straying off that path could set them back for life. And a lot of them just plain give up after enough of those, and then you get hikkomori, 'herbivore men' and people who take being written off as surplus to requirements by society in interesting directions.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

I'm 99% sure there is already a funko pop monthly lootcrate subscription thing somewhere out there in the world.

Most of those lootcrate things are at least 1/4 funko pops already.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

That second one is kind of charming in a 90s shareware nostalgia way.

The first one, just lol.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Aliens from... URANUS!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It probably doesn't help I'm hearing 'Naked Butler' as a jaunty title theme tune like Lil' Butler from Steven Universe.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85cL1HisrNc

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It goes the other way too, I loosely remember a big fuss when they banned/rejected Ladykiller in a Bind for having explicit sex and a rape scene.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
And it would very easily turn into tiers of 'how much the developer pays us'.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Palpek posted:

If you go to the community screenshots page it shows there are actual hentai images in the game. Like girl-bending-over-getting-hosed-in-the-anus-close-up kind. drat, Steam.

I'd bet more than the cost of the game those images are ripped straight from somewhere on the internet without credit.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Kanfy posted:

I recall Detroit being Cage's most successful game yet and it's metacritic user score is a whopping 8.6 at 2.6k reviews, I feel like goon and public opinion clash harder with that guy's games than with almost anything else.

Cage's games are basically the gaming equivalent of Oscar bait, in visual novel form.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Threep posted:

Actually there were just no hard rules about what the light was indicating so on some PCs it would mean slow, on some it would mean fast

And some it meant nothing.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Be Depressive posted:

True story in America at least, the “close door” button in elevators often isn’t wired up to anything. This is not true for every part of the world, however.

It does seem to have an effect here in Australia, I get the feeling it maybe disconnected in particularly busy buildings with not enough lifts.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Somfin posted:

I get that- I think that the set "mentally challenged, motivationally-challenged, criminally-inclined" pretty solidly explains the speaker's opinions toward whatever defectives are a metaphor for. That paragraph was written from the perspective of someone who thinks that lazy criminals and smart people are two different categories of existence; whether it was the author or one of their characters is uncertain, but presumed at time of writing to be the author (since it's in a block called "Synopsis" and not "History of the world, 3rd edition")

Of course there are various conspiracy theories basically involving a manufactured underclass of undesirables being inflicted upon a society by (((Certain People))) whose existence is prolonged by bleeding-hearts and race traitors.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I know at least one or two people who had a real thing for men being transformed into women, and surprisingly enough they ended up coming out as a trans woman. These things are all over the place. And don't think it's exclusive to men in the slightest, Naked Butler is still on Steam isn't it?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
A shitload of monster girl concepts are just more openly pornographic versions of ancient myths of sexy monsters that kill/eat/kidnap you.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Zetsubou-san posted:

the modern invention was the "human enough" part

Even that's debatable!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
This is sounding a lot like that manga about the guy who can't orgasm or it'll cause the end of the world because he has Satan trapped in his balls.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm reminded of how Fox News basically reported on Mass Effect as a space sex game.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Mostly just because it wasn't practical to charge money for it back then.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Somfin posted:

Turns out New Sincerity games are great and a seething hatred of postmodernism is incompatible with New Sincerity.

Turns out this guy had two people in his head, a New Sincerity true believer and a regressive chud, and when the lightest wind blew through, only one of the two was left.

Is there literally anything associated with New Sincerity that isn't completely insufferable and bizarrely on-point hipster stereotypes?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Somfin posted:

Not out loud. New Sincerity works are massively undercut by explicit self-awareness like that. Implicit self-awareness, on the other hand, is solid gold; a good New Sincerity work knows not to, for example, waste your goddamned time even if that's a genre staple.

Undertale was pretty solidly New Sincerity. I'd put Super Mario Odyssey there too.

YIIK is basically impossible to place in that category because it has nothing but disdain for its setting, mechanics, players and characters. The only thing it seems to enjoy is the sound of its own narrator's voice.

...so the main examples of New Sincerity are things which were made either before the term was a thing or likely in complete ignorance of it?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The terminally online have to invent a new term to define 'not being irony poisoned about everything all the time', which I'm pretty sure actually just means have absolutely no shame or humility even by terminally online standards. Though that just might be coincidental given the kind of people who desperately cling to a new buzzword that they'd have no idea what it means even if it had a meaning in the first place.

Like Super Mario Odyssey is just Nintendo doing what they've always been doing, making some gameplay innovations while mostly keeping what works and celebrating their history along with their fans, and Undertale is a game that takes apart many of the concepts and assumptions of RPGs (which I thought would easily fall into postmodernism in that it acknowledges, examines and subverts pre-existing assumptions and experiences its audience is assumed to have, as well as its heavy use of parody and mockery of pop culture, especially that which much of its target audience is assumed to like) while also having its own story to tell.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Which just backs up my theory that it really means 'having absolutely no self-awareness'.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
And just to take things full circle I'm pretty sure this ends up with the new sincerity dorks putting a lot of aggressive effort into performatively liking things so they maintain cred

Oh no I've gone cross eyed

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Kinda does seem like the people making YIIK had some decent cred with the indie community and at least some of them thought the game looked promising before it came out and turned out to be actually pretty terrible. I'm guessing most of them guessed that at worst it would be harmlessly quirky, but you know how these things pan out.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

END ME SCOOB posted:

It legitimately came out of nowhere when I got to the end of that original title and then they're like "ALSO THIS IS AUSTRALIA AND HAS BEEN THE WHOLE TIME." Literally nothing in the game save maybe a rare British spelling had suggested it wasn't a New England coastal dive.

There's a few games lately that do this!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

END ME SCOOB posted:

I'm legitimately curious about these, spoiler tagged or no. I can't think of any but I'm also pretty behind on THE HOT NEW TITLES since I can't buy anything for a while.

Well the one that came to mind was Golf Story on the Switch, though it's hinted if you're paying attention

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

NutritiousSnack posted:

Also I'm feeling mildly bad for the Subverse people when I mock them, they are trying to make a game without Crunch and actually distribute the game's profit more equitably according to interviews. That really is a noble goal and especially since this game looks like it's going to be a legitimate hit. Exploitation and crunch also heavily effect a lot of this self funded indie games.

On the other hand, I've found out that despite a weird lack of English press that this is happening or at least the milestone this represents; Japanese and European press and fans are actually big for this. At least America doesn't have defend this too.

There's been a complete blackout of coverage in pretty much all the English gaming press. Let's face it, probably because they have no idea whether they're supposed to praise it for being woke or drat it for being objectifying and are waiting for someone to blow the whistle.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Might be something significant given how a lot of porn games either tend to get stuck in development hell because the devs are all amateurs doing it in their spare time, or fall apart because one of them runs off with all the assets or something, that it takes a healthy and equitable dev environment for anything remotely major to get a hope of actually being released.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
When it comes to horror and gratuitous titties that horse bolted a long, long time ago.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Still find it weird and hilarious that everyone assumed Bioware had been forced by EA into making an ultra generic Destiny clone but apparently that mostly happened entirely on their own accord.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

To be fair, a LOT of the fuckups and aimlessness on Anthem were due to EA forcing them to use the Frostbite engine. It can't be overstated how awful that engine is to work with if you aren't Dice and making a Battlefield game. They had to scrap their original concepts in large part because of the engine - maybe if they didn't, they would have stuck with a consistent vision and made a decent game. Not to mention all the times they had to pull people off the project to concentrate on DA:I and ME:A due to Frostbite causing development issues...! Plus, the release date was mandated by EA.

Was going to mention that, though I wasn't aware of how major it was. Figures that the one EA mandated problem is basically Not Invented Here.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Yeah, there's a reason 'Nazi efficiency' gives actual historians of any competence an aneurysm. The whole regime was built to appease egos and hatreds first and foremost, and everything flowed from that.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I think the real problem with Valve is mostly wasted potential more than anything.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Wamdoodle posted:

uh i think you mean gone perfectly

Naked Butler?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

FactsAreUseless posted:

The Ouya will truly go down in history for not being vaporware. Congratulations to the Ouya: despite all expectations, you existed.

Anyone else remember the Phantom? Or the Gizmondo?

The funny thing is it turned out digital distribution was the future, just there's no point in releasing a dedicated device for it when you can just slap it onto the machines everyone already has.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

King Vidiot posted:

"Yes, somebody who totally failed to make and market their own game console would be perfect for our company that's currently failing to market its own brand."

What the hell is Playboy even doing these days, and what do they hope she'll bring to the table?

Desperate publicity stunts, mostly. I think they tried to go all woke and no longer have nudity, for about five minutes.

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