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Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Woof Blitzer posted:

Meeting tonight was standing room only, loving packed

also they had the great combination of donuts and Stag

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cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

Weeping Wound posted:

sheesh, with the outpouring support for DSA, should I just do that instead of PSL?
For what its worth, I did a fair amount of research in the weeks after the election and I came to the conclusion that the DSA was the org for me. Socialist/Leftist organizations of all stripes are growing post election, but DSA just has that certain something. Maybe its the close relationship with Bernie, I don't know, but they really have their college/millenial game on point and have doubled in members since the election.

They also seem to be more of a bottom up org with a lot of emphasis on local chapters doing their thing, while PSL and Socialist Alternative (SA/SAlt) are more top down. Everyone is welcome in the progressive left, and most of the fight over the next 4 years will probably be 1) opposing trump and 2) pushing the general dialogue left (both national discussion and individual congress people).

Flora Finching
Sep 10, 2009

Grand Prize Winner posted:

that's great. now why haven't they responded to my fuckin' email???

LA chapter is too big to meet all at once and new people are pouring in daily so there's some scrambling to find venues to get all the new members in. You should be hearing from them soon.

Totally related, please pay local dues if you're able everyone. Meeting space and protest signs and tables at events have to be paid for somehow. That fundraising committee sounds like a damned good idea.

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

Bok Bok posted:

LA chapter is too big to meet all at once and new people are pouring in daily so there's some scrambling to find venues to get all the new members in. You should be hearing from them soon.

Totally related, please pay local dues if you're able everyone. Meeting space and protest signs and tables at events have to be paid for somehow. That fundraising committee sounds like a damned good idea.

NYC chapter is already four branches, and will likely be seven or eight in the next couple months. Are you guys going to do something similar?

Laphroaig
Feb 6, 2004

Drinking Smoke
Dinosaur Gum
Philly DSA are all dirtbag leftists

https://twitter.com/PhillyDSA/status/826639315799244800

https://twitter.com/incredulist/status/826663702929682432

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super/2017/02/02/super-bowl-2017-protesters-president-donald-trump-houston/97421790/

dsa quoted in here. sunday is gonna be lit and i cant wait to meet the anti circumcision activists

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


jarofpiss posted:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super/2017/02/02/super-bowl-2017-protesters-president-donald-trump-houston/97421790/

dsa quoted in here. sunday is gonna be lit and i cant wait to meet the anti circumcision activists

What's the most common encrypted communication method right now? I've heard something about Signal?

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Signal and whatsapp. You can make encrypted voice calls as well as sms through signal but i think it may use data

Flora Finching
Sep 10, 2009

unbutthurtable posted:

NYC chapter is already four branches, and will likely be seven or eight in the next couple months. Are you guys going to do something similar?

It's unavoidable I think, especially given how vast an area LA county is. The core group were just not expecting or ready for hundreds of people coming in after the election. Like the old movie plot where the nerdy kid has a little party and 500 people show up at his house. It's transitioning from "holy poo poo" mode to legendary.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Attended my first Seattle DSA meeting last night. The attendance was huge; they had just moved to a new location to fit all the new people, and now they're going to have to move again because they ran out of space and people had to crowd outside the room. They mostly talked about last week's protests and preparing for internal elections and drafting the chapter's main principles.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
I use a heliogram to communicate

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf
Put me down as the first wisconsin DSA goon.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



https://twitter.com/Almighty_Prismo/status/827537188300713986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Why do DSA members have such good memes?

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



If I was a garbage piss idiot Clinton supporter, am I still "allowed" to get involved in this stuff or will I get berated if I don't pretend I was a diehard Sanders supporter

I'm being half ironic here but I guess I'm curious about other peoples' experiences and what the general vibe is like. The DSA seems the best I can do right now because it sounds like they're getting good turnout and are actually organized.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

triple sulk posted:

If I was a garbage piss idiot Clinton supporter, am I still "allowed" to get involved in this stuff or will I get berated if I don't pretend I was a diehard Sanders supporter

I'm being half ironic here but I guess I'm curious about other peoples' experiences and what the general vibe is like. The DSA seems the best I can do right now because it sounds like they're getting good turnout and are actually organized.

honestly depends on if you're trying to poison the group with democrat centrism or not. the DSA is a socialist group and you don't have socialism under lovely democrat third wayism. if you want to build a broad based mass movement founded on both democracy and socialism you're totally welcome.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

we do have social democrats in our group, don't want to make it sound like that doesn't exist. but the fundamental purpose of a socialist org is ending capitalism so don't be confused just because DSA is very popular right now

Laphroaig
Feb 6, 2004

Drinking Smoke
Dinosaur Gum

https://warisboring.com/america-isnt-ready-for-meme-warfare-b985a8919db0#.j9lmtd5mb

quote:

Meme wars seem to favor insurgencies because, by their nature, they weaken monopolies on narrative and empower challenges to centralized authority. A government could use memes to increase disorder within a system, but if the goal is to increase stability, it’s the wrong tool for the job.

b/c memes are good for making fun of people and for mocking authority / destabilizing things, basically, which is still the point the DSA is at politically

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



jarofpiss posted:

honestly depends on if you're trying to poison the group with democrat centrism or not. the DSA is a socialist group and you don't have socialism under lovely democrat third wayism. if you want to build a broad based mass movement founded on both democracy and socialism you're totally welcome.

I'm a libertarian, so I clearly disagree with like 90% of the dem socialist's economic points.

But Trump needs to go down so I'm going to throw the DSA some dirty capitalist money, because anyone fighting the facists deserves all the help they can get.

Lord knows most libertarians aren't doing poo poo to take him down.

Is it better sent to my local chapter or the central dem soc group?

Taran
Nov 2, 2002

What? I don't get to yell "I'LL FINISH THIS" anymore?



Grimey Drawer

triple sulk posted:

If I was a garbage piss idiot Clinton supporter, am I still "allowed" to get involved in this stuff or will I get berated if I don't pretend I was a diehard Sanders supporter

I'm being half ironic here but I guess I'm curious about other peoples' experiences and what the general vibe is like. The DSA seems the best I can do right now because it sounds like they're getting good turnout and are actually organized.

The anecdote I've been using when trying to convert my friends: I went to my first meeting in early January, and since there were so many newbies with me much of the meeting turned into "Socialism 101". One of the sections of that talk was "Intersectionality -- Cornel West's version, not Hillary's". If the implication that Hillary's version of things is bad offends you, or if you're a fan of class-exclusionary intersectionality as a concept, this is probably not the right fit for you. But if you don't instantly explode when people shoot zingers at that wing of the Democrats, then you'll be fine!

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

Nitrousoxide posted:

I'm a libertarian, so I clearly disagree with like 90% of the dem socialist's economic points.

But Trump needs to go down so I'm going to throw the DSA some dirty capitalist money, because anyone fighting the facists deserves all the help they can get.

Is it better sent to my local chapter or the central dem soc group?

you are such a sweetie, and the world needs more sweeties.

edit: probably national? You can base it on whether or not you like how your local chapter operates though. There's a lot of variation.

edit2: and I swear there's some kind of libertarian socialist caucus within DSA, but someone challenged me on it the other day and I didn't have proof, so it may have just been a dream like where stantz got a ghostjob in the firehouse

edit3: gently caress everything, beaten

unbutthurtable has issued a correction as of 21:02 on Feb 3, 2017

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Nitrousoxide posted:

I'm a libertarian, so I clearly disagree with like 90% of the dem socialist's economic points.

But Trump needs to go down so I'm going to throw the DSA some dirty capitalist money, because anyone fighting the facists deserves all the help they can get.

Lord knows most libertarians aren't doing poo poo to take him down.

Is it better sent to my local chapter or the central dem soc group?

Why not be a libertarian socialist :v:

Cool, though.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

thing

ChickenOfTomorrow has issued a correction as of 21:59 on Sep 28, 2021

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

the DSA slack needs more SA smilies. I keep wanting to respond with :same: but nothing happens.

:same:

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Be the agent of change you want to see

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Must be nuts. They just fired an email back to me yesterday. At midnight. Holy poo poo, DSA burning the midnight oil.

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Must be nuts. They just fired an email back to me yesterday. At midnight. Holy poo poo, DSA burning the midnight oil.

They were probably just getting off second shift at the Soros Inc. protest factory

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

no more books posted:

definitely a long shot but if anyone is in the I.E. even tho there isn't a local chapter on the site map (http://www.dsausa.org/chapters) there is a Facebook group with 220+ members (?!). Since there's no official chapter I'm assuming no one goes to meetings, but the leader of the Facebook page seems pretty active so I'll be going to the next one. I have the form to create a chapter from the national office, so it should be happening soon. Please show up!

:hfive:

Out in the IE here too. Dipping my toe into the DSA waters but thanks for the FB link and I'll be putting up some cash soon.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

the DSA slack needs more SA smilies. I keep wanting to respond with :same: but nothing happens.
There is a DSA slack? That's a thing?

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



Apparently, but full communism in the United States will probably arrive before your invite.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

cheese posted:

There is a DSA slack? That's a thing?

If you've paid dues you should get an invite in a week or so

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




cheese posted:

There is a DSA slack? That's a thing?

If you need the link for signup, pm me.

no more books
Aug 4, 2011

FCKGW posted:

:hfive:

Out in the IE here too. Dipping my toe into the DSA waters but thanks for the FB link and I'll be putting up some cash soon.

Facebook says next meeting is the 8th! I'm bummed that it's so deep into SB (I'm in corona) but I'll be there

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

the DSA slack needs more SA smilies. I keep wanting to respond with :same: but nothing happens.

I got :thonking: on there but we need that on SA now.

Ruzihm has issued a correction as of 05:21 on Feb 4, 2017

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Is there a chapter in Minnesota

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

gently caress yeah DSA

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:




hahahaha this is the first time i saw pelosi's reaction when she took the question and you can just see her freak the gently caress out as soon as capitalism gets dropped

edit:
https://www.facebook.com/demsocialists/videos/1168659943232820/
he already joined

Business Gorillas has issued a correction as of 06:49 on Feb 4, 2017

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
So infowars is harassing my local campus socialists and DSA chapter. Shits hosed up.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Venom Snake posted:

So infowars is harassing my local campus socialists and DSA chapter. Shits hosed up.

well don't stop there, tell us the rest of the story

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Venom Snake posted:

So infowars is harassing my local campus socialists and DSA chapter. Shits hosed up.
Don't let them intimidate you. Never negotiate with terrorists.

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RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

rudatron posted:

Don't let them intimidate you. Never negotiate with terrorists.

I'm kind of curious to hear how that negotiation would go, frankly. "what do you want" "REMOVE LIZARDS FROM U.N."

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