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Is there a medium post or some poo poo somewhere summarizing all of this yet. I need to share it with people who don't consume Twitter or forums
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quote:Because we were hosted by the Communist Party, the vast majority of our itinerary involved us meeting state or party officials and representatives from the party’s mass organizations. These meetings mostly consisted of us receiving lectures followed by a Q&A period, instead of any even exchange of ideas, tactics, and advice. On several occasions comrades asked our Cuban counterparts for advice on our own organizing, and consistently we were met with non-answers. quote:At no point in our itinerary did we meet with independent, critical, or alternative leftist voices, and criticisms of the country’s bureaucratic political structures were almost entirely absent. For this reason, I sought out and organized three meetings with critical leftists entirely separate from the official itinerary. While I give credit to the delegation organizers for never impeding my efforts and encouraging all of us to ask challenging questions, there was no intentional effort to introduce the critical perspective. quote:Our first visit of the third day was to the National Assembly for People’s Power, or the Cuban parliament. We heard a presentation from Homero Acosta Álvarez, Secretary of the National Assembly, for an explanation on how the Cuban government functions. He explained that in their system, there are elections for municipal, provincial, and national assemblies. Multiple candidates may compete for the same seat in local elections, while there is only one candidate per seat for national elections and voting is done by approval. The National Candidacy Commission approves candidates for each race, and parties are technically prohibited from campaigning. quote:By contrast, the planned economy in Cuba allows services like healthcare, housing, and education to be provided for free (or in the case of state housing, with rents capped at 10% of family income) to the whole population, and the government will actively solicit input from ordinary people when considering big reforms like the 2019 constitution or subsequent Family Code.
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yes, the government gives the people everything they need, but don't you see the secret oppression that's really happening???
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friends of mine were on the delegation and they basically described it to me as life-changing. like yeah the blockade means a lot of missing amenities but (to paraphrase them) it felt like being in a real society for the first time ever. among other things, my friend reports that he saw more cops in the two or three hours he was at newark's airport than he did the entire time he was in cuba
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Ferrinus posted:friends of mine were on the delegation and they basically described it to me as life-changing. like yeah the blockade means a lot of missing amenities but (to paraphrase them) it felt like being in a real society for the first time ever. among other things, my friend reports that he saw more cops in the two or three hours he was at newark's airport than he did the entire time he was in cuba i hope you had a nice trip ferrinus
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Democratic Socialists of America *puts on They Live glasses* 
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Cuttlefush posted:i hope you had a nice trip ferrinus no, i really am relating my friend's words, i didn't have the time to go. i might try when these become a regular occurrence but i can think of a lot of comrades who should get a seat before i do
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Ferrinus posted:no, i really am relating my friend's words, i didn't have the time to go. i might try when these become a regular occurrence but i can think of a lot of comrades who should get a seat before i do 
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Ferrinus posted:no, i really am relating my friend's words, i didn't have the time to go. i might try when these become a regular occurrence but i can think of a lot of comrades who should get a seat before i do i mean it is good to know that some of the people who went got something out of it tbh
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:i mean it is good to know that some of the people who went got something out of it tbh the vast majority did! the important takeaway from all this is that people like the writer of the r&r article are actually a minority in the org even though their views are probably more palatable to the us's general population, which came as a very pleasant surprise to me over the last howevermany years
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personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong
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comedyblissoption posted:personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong
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comedyblissoption posted:personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong
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comedyblissoption posted:personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong
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Cuba lets it's citizens collect a NED paycheck to make yankee propaganda but it's unfree?!
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can't wait for the dsa gusanos to claim they have havana syndrome
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comedyblissoption posted:personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong
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comedyblissoption posted:personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong
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comedyblissoption posted:personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong
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https://twitter.com/mangosocialism/status/1781504633304756249 it seems that the dsa forum mods are authoritarians and thus maria can not support meetings on the forums.
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DSA: It's wrong to imply I met with right-wingers
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comedyblissoption posted:personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong
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PhilippAchtel posted:DSA: It's wrong to imply I met with right-wingers
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Ferrinus posted:the vast majority did! the important takeaway from all this is that people like the writer of the r&r article are actually a minority in the org even though their views are probably more palatable to the us's general population, which came as a very pleasant surprise to me over the last howevermany years sounds like authoritarian brainwashing op, thankfully the gusano caucus was there to properly express the horrors of cuba
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comedyblissoption posted:personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong skipping meeting president xi to meet with promise li
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Megamissen posted:skipping meeting president xi to meet with promise li lol
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fermun posted:https://twitter.com/mangosocialism/status/1781504633304756249
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mawarannahr posted:there's a pic of her campaigning for Andrew Gillum there.😎 Having a meth head governor would have been ftw though, the stupid wop in Tallahassee now is just boring
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Yinlock posted:sounds like authoritarian brainwashing op, thankfully the gusano caucus was there to properly express the horrors of cuba this is why the people who decry whatever the IC is putting forward every convention, try to marshal votes against it, and get blown out aren't actually being disingenuous when they claim to represent a silent majority that the totalitarian authoritarian statist campist tankies are cruelly marginalizing. they do represent a majority... of westerners, perhaps even of western leftists ("""leftists""""). but that doesn't mean they're not a minority of active dsa organizers
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it would be much less embarrassing if this org was an op
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Ferrinus posted:this is why the people who decry whatever the IC is putting forward every convention, try to marshal votes against it, and get blown out aren't actually being disingenuous when they claim to represent a silent majority that the totalitarian authoritarian statist campist tankies are cruelly marginalizing. they do represent a majority... of westerners, perhaps even of western leftists ("""leftists""""). but that doesn't mean they're not a minority of active dsa organizers I think the thing that irks me most about this is that many of these fellows have no problem supporting democrats.
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Ferrinus posted:this is why the people who decry whatever the IC is putting forward every convention, try to marshal votes against it, and get blown out aren't actually being disingenuous when they claim to represent a silent majority that the totalitarian authoritarian statist campist tankies are cruelly marginalizing. they do represent a majority... of westerners, perhaps even of western leftists ("""leftists""""). but that doesn't mean they're not a minority of active dsa organizers Will there be any sort of consequences for the people who skipped the meeting? It generally seems like a bad idea to keep people around who are directly opposed to what you want.
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Ytlaya posted:Will there be any sort of consequences for the people who skipped the meeting? It generally seems like a bad idea to keep people around who are directly opposed to what you want. lol
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PhilippAchtel posted:https://twitter.com/Shaneless93/status/1780985797388492889 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
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Ytlaya posted:Will there be any sort of consequences for the people who skipped the meeting? It generally seems like a bad idea to keep people around who are directly opposed to what you want. none that i know of but this makes it easier to be stricter about the next delegation
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fermun posted:https://twitter.com/mangosocialism/status/1781504633304756249 is it like the SA mod forum?
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