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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

quote:

Bread & Roses NPC members

oh come on lol

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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

joepinetree posted:

DSA is a perfectly tuned machine aimed at taking any energy for change and channeling into irrelevant procedural nonsense.

My last meeting with DSA there was a stupid slapfight for like 30 minutes over whether a particular motion could come up for a vote, and there was a whole thing about roberts rules of order and amending the agenda (note, the debate wasn't about the motion itself, but whether someone could make a motion to amend the agenda to add the motion for debate and a vote). The guy wanting to put the motion to a vote got loud at one point. So this lady interrupted him and said that as a victim of sexual assault he was triggering her by speaking loudly. He then said that as a victim of sexual assault himself he found it extremely concerning that she would casually use sexual assault that way. Which then led to mutual threats of filing grievances, a discussion of how no one internal should be able to handle it, and a promise by the chair of seeking help from national. Best part was that the motion itself was some vague pablum about engaging in electoralism even after Bernie's defeat.

After the meeting was over, I cancelled my membership, and asked to be removed from the rolls (despite being allowed to continue on as a member for a while if I wanted).

purestrain dsa

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

the main communist group here is mostly focused on tenant's rights and helping battle the horrific landlord companies we have. combined with reading groups, it's alright.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Al! posted:

long story short goon who would hang out at the strip club but not pay for any dances or tip the stage dancer. brought in a lasagne and forced a dancer take a polite bite of it. according to him the girls are all friends with him.

was also permabanned for doing violence to dogs or something like that. real good poster. Free him

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

goon in the seattle lan thread was hyping his cool org the other day too

lol

bet they've got a newspaper

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Mr. Lobe posted:

You have a pretty distorted notion of what hyping is. I did not mention what org I was tabling with at the Olympia action until asked, and in that quote you cited I literally described us as small potatoes. Because we are. We are like 12 people.

Are you seriously trying to start poo poo, in another thread, on account of a 12 member trotskyist group? That's 1. creepy as hell and 2. A very poor use of your time.

do you guys have a newspaper?

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


you know who else made buttons

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Best Friends posted:

what active socialist groups are there that do not stand against the horrors of red china / Cuba / Vietnam / America’s enemy of the week? actual question

the national Socialist Rifle Association is a dumpster fire but locals may be good, the one I was in for a while was very ML oriented and if you said dumb liberal poo poo about China or wherever the response would be let's get you educated so you stop saying dumb liberal poo poo.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Weka posted:

I hope this is a joke but on the off chance

lol

the state department to dsa pipeline

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

I don't know why the DSA should concern itself with Chinese internal politics at all. Seems like there are bigger problems to address in the "A" part of their name. But what to I know, I'm not a trot.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

https://www.reddit.com/r/dsa/comments/tqhnrr/in_the_2014_maidan_revolution_of_ukraine_the/

I'm taking this dumbass reddit post as the official DSA stance on Maidan

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

fermun posted:

while it's a very funny idea to publish the writings of some new zealand "communist" who has never managed to find a single person willing to hang out with them, no.

hello DSA goon, I have some writings you may be interested in for your magazine, Der Stürmer

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

jarofpiss posted:

DSA is not a staff led organization. staff doesn’t lead anything. staff provides infrastructure, training, and support for membership to campaigns. i hear what the staff organizers do all day long and the vast majority is training for chapter leadership. also providing direction to try and help keep the amateur chapter membership from violating election law or creating other legal issues for themselves and the org at large. giving them access to national infrastructure, getting them set up with communication lists, helping them work through the process of getting bank accounts, dues share, and when they’re established doing trainings for their local campaigns, putting them in touch with resources for larger national campaigns, etc. membership has dropped and the current proposal leaves the remaining organizers with over 80 chapters each

literally the sort of infrastructural poo poo you need if you want to be anything more than a local book club.

gutting this just reflects the complete baby brain lack of perspective these loving internet posers have about this org.

the majority NPC appears to want to dismantle the existing staff union infrastructure so they can direct funds toward their caucus dictated priorities like preserving the health insurance and paid salaries for the 1099 independent contractor npc co-chairs. its loving starve the beast conservatism in action

co chairs on an npc that can’t seem to produce a budget with actual numbers on it and instead want to drive ahead with firing 8 people (approx 4 more than required to hit their previously requested budget deficit). no target budget number presented in negotiations. these are not professionals in any sense of the word, they are literally just moron internet brains.

this clusterfuck of a committee is consistently self admitting to negotiating in bad faith with the union, committing numerous nlrb violations, and somehow thinks this isn’t going to bite them.

co-chair loving crying on twitter about how hard this has been for her. outrageous. it looks like the plan is to bust the union to gut staff and give jobs for their caucus deep state friends




like i am constantly thinking back on union meetings when i was a teamster and contrasting it with the sort of poo poo the self proclaimed left gets up to and it’s incredible. we are doomed.

i’m trying to imagine if i had a job where different people with zero competence or understanding of my industry got to come in every two years and make a bunch of proclamations and then were tasked with trying to balance a budget (but also they dont know how to count past 10 with their shoes on). loving depressing.


not to say that the cspam internet communists dont have a lot of great advice to give in this thread, but fermun you dont know what youre talking about and this thread is just a spectacle for this reactionary cesspool to jack off to drama in.

maybe don’t post like you know how any of this poo poo has gone or have any sort of valuable perspective to add, unless youre gonna leak new behind the scenes caucus deep state chats?

cspam needs a grievance officer (paid) to meditate this

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

DiSAbled

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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

dumb poo poo assholes

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