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PhilippAchtel posted:Whoever paid the 5bux for DSA forum access better cough up the goods
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'trotskyism' as such wasn't that offensive or crazy as an ideology. it's more a pejorative term now for splitters and outspoken leftist critics of leftist movements and governments. trot criticism usually focuses on real or perceived antidemocratic practices or tendencies in communist parties or governments. sincere or not, it happens to make their rhetoric line up with right-wing, capitalist criticisms of existing communist power structures. 'trots' are therefore viewed with some justification by all sides as subversive and, as in Cuba, sometimes get support and funding from capitalist foreign powers e: that said I think 'trot' isn't a really helpful term to distinguish among leftist groups or tendencies in the US, who more or less all take for granted trotsky's actual ideological differences with the third international and stalinism Cassian of Imola has issued a correction as of 15:45 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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Ferrinus posted:trotsky was, incidentally, not even theoretically correct, because it was stalin's policy of socialism in one country that allowed the ussr to build up and defeat the nazis before supporting other socialist states around the globe, and cuba, china, vietnam, and so on are all holding strong even now. hey quick question op what was the USSR's policy on the Nazis before deciding that defeating them was the best strategy, and what made them change their minds follow up: is it your contention here that the USSR under Stalin generally supported the CCP over the KMT and is responsible for its success
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol every retard thinks the molotov pact is the magic bullet against stalin and not the end result of the west's constant refusal to form a front against germany with the soviets everyone knows he had reasons for carving up Eastern Europe with Hitler, and the UK and France were responsible to the extent that they limited his options. it just seems silly to pretend that Stalin's main reason for building up soviet industrial capacity was defeating nazism per se when his most famous foreign policy aims re: fascism up to WW2 were co-opting and undermining the Republican forces in the Spanish Civil War and selling out the CCP to the KMT. it seems much more likely that he was concerned about potential military rivals on the Russian border regardless of ideology all that is totally in keeping with his stated beliefs and aims re: communism in one country, which just a moment ago you nerds were defending. stalin defenders always get all huffy when you suggest he wasn't a true blue internationalist trot. you can't have it both ways!
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I'm sorry, am I misremembering. did they win that one after the NKVD installed an unpopular, paranoid puppet at gunpoint then disappeared along with their guns and most of the Spanish treasury Cassian of Imola has issued a correction as of 23:43 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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mila kunis posted:The USSR did more than any other country to fight the fascists in Spain and you are a dishonest anticommunist that flips from "it's bad when the USSR exports socialism" to "it's bad when the USSR doesn't export revolution" at a moments notice based on rhetorical convenience to bash them. I prefer the honest ones that just admit they think communisn is bad because they're less annoying no communism is cool, incl. existing forms of communism, including stuff like agricultural collectivisation. I didn't think Stalin was such hot poo poo what with all the shooting poets, the carving up Poland with Hitler, etc. but the USSR was sweet both as a utopian project and as a real existing place to live. absolutely unimaginable today that a country would, for example, create a massive bureaucracy dedicated to preserving and translating the literatures of dozens of languages and cultures within its borders while also pursuing space exploration and a universal standard of living. pretty sure I'm just the social retard kind of trot not the CIA stooge kind. but who can tell if they're a CIA stooge
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rudecyrus posted:it's amazing how many leftists say the ussr was good but stalin was bad, like the soviet union became a global superpower in spite of him or something yes
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the USSR probably could have replaced a violent paranoid maniac with somebody else in the 1930s and done just fine. many other successful communist governments get by without a literally insane guy calling the shots
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thinking about that scene in death of stalin when stalin fell over and peed his pants 
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Ferrinus posted:i wonder why lib dem supporter armando iannucci chose to depict stalin that way an unshakeable commitment to the truth, I imagine
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In Training posted:Cassian do you like modern day China? Lucy Liu, the iPhone, Hulk (2003)... what's not to like
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this genocide is bad. unfortunately, however, everyone who currently opposes the genocide is also bad. Houthi concern trolls hijacking my Temu deliveries hurt everyone, including disabled Gazans who rely on Red Sea shipping to literally eat
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I'm mocking the R&R guy here. not trolling you. sorry if that didn't come across but I thought I was laying it on pretty thick, both with that and posting the image of the tweet advocating turning anti-genocide protests into votes for AOC
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ah yes, I_can't_read.jpg
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Lin-Manuel Turtle posted:aren’t you the moron who was running around saying Stalin allied with Hitler? How the hell are people ever supposed to believe even the wildest lib poo poo coming from you is satire when your normal takes are also wild lib poo poo? if you think somebody's opinion of a crazed paranoid alcoholic/revolutionary hero who peed his pants and died 70 years ago is a reliable indicator of their stance on gaza you should make it a point to talk to one single person in real life ASAP (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Cassian of Imola posted:this genocide is bad. unfortunately, however, everyone who currently opposes the genocide is also bad. again, you read this ^ blindingly obvious sarcasm as sincere because I was on the other side of an ancient intraleft slapfight. take the words of our illustrious Chairman to heart and chill: quote:In struggles inside as well as outside the Party, on certain occasions and on certain questions he confused two types of contradictions which are different in nature, contradictions between ourselves and the enemy and contradictions among the people.
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