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Apr 28, 2011
I don't know how defending countries from US imperialism is being a tankie.

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Apr 28, 2011

http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/06/to-thwart-fascism-leftist-students-start

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Apr 28, 2011

Azuth0667 posted:

Tell me more about this co op thing.

workers pool money to buy means of production and cut out the middleman by giving all profits back to the workers

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Apr 28, 2011
this is probably more suited to the tankie thread but is it true that the SRs were about split down the middle between right/left?

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Apr 28, 2011

OhFunny posted:

Thanks to the great people with me in the NH DSA. We're going to rent a room at a local UU Church for our next meeting. I had a meeting with, well let's call it the Organizing Committee, and after some discussion we're going to organize a protest Senator Hassan or Shaheen's office like NYC DSA did to Chuck Schumer. To keep the fire under their feet.

Also to set up a committee for Direct Action, for Theory Education, and for Community Service/Involvement.

I'd like to present a platform of 15/h min. wage, free tuition, and public childcare at the next meeting as things to immediately fight for in New Hampshire after having a lot one-on-ones with the people who showed up at the last meeting.

Do you think those goals are attainable in a state like NH? How strong is the small-c conservative influence there?

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Apr 28, 2011
women in the dsa were getting harassed by these people so gently caress off zegermans

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Apr 28, 2011
Chavez owns and if you think someone owns but has bad opinions you should think about how bad the bad opinions truly are.

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Apr 28, 2011

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

chavez in fact emphatically did not own and was a corrupt thieving kleptocrat who knew how to say the right things to make leftists abroad like him. he destroyed his country and set the cause of socialism back decades and i celebrated when he died. the fact that he was right about some things (American imperialism) does not erase that he was not enacting socialism but simply recreating authoritarianism. do not fall victim to the same mistakes that socialists have made in the past.

this is a personal issue to me because my wife fled a South American dictatorship as a child. she is a socialist as well but sees through chavismo bullshit. i also live on an island 500-odd miles off the coast of Venezuela and we get refugees fleeing their collapsing state here. they are not bourgeoisie, they are poor and desperate and they spit when they hear chavez's name.

this isn't a respectability politics thing, Chavez was a murderous criminal and his death is one of the best things to happen to socialism in the past decade. it's not a matter of bad opinions either. you can't be a socialist and support American imperial war abroad, and you can't be a socialist and support authoritarian dictators either. the fact that a lot of chavez's harshest critics were warmongering American corporate scum doesn't mean he was a good guy.

wow i didn't know chavez was responsible for oil prices collapsing and bankrupting venezuela's social systems

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Apr 28, 2011

Agean90 posted:

mhhmm yes, roght after a page about self policing and making sure toxic poo poo doesnt take root we will now defend a poo poo politician while ignoring his numerous flaws


by the way holodomor is a myth and furthermore lysenkoism is right

i bet you agree with sanctions against north korea too

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