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Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

joepinetree posted:

Trump got elected by beating someone that sucked, while all indications are that he would have lost to Bernie. The idea that it was the Trump election by itself, not coupled with the Bernie campaign, is ridiculous. The need for hot takes has broken some of your brains.

buddy this wouldnt be the dsa thread if its pages werent full of bad takes competing to be the Worst Take

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Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

big black turnout posted:

little leftist larp

bro thats a yellow card. improve your vibes immediately or face a penalty

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

step by step we march ever closer to a united left

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Bernie’s going to die in the hospital, isn’t he?

i think a lot of us are going to die in a hospital

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I meant soon.






...a lot of us are going to die soon.

bernies fine right now, common old man procedure

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Troy Queef posted:

here's one of them:


lmao

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Larry Parrish posted:

Unironically yes. Pretty much the only people who can afford to live in half these big cities are rich kids anyway.

Good lord

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

There's absolutely no way people are still stuck in dsa. Blink thrice if you need help leaving

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

jarofpiss posted:

DSA is not a staff led organization. staff doesn’t lead anything. staff provides infrastructure, training, and support for membership to campaigns. i hear what the staff organizers do all day long and the vast majority is training for chapter leadership. also providing direction to try and help keep the amateur chapter membership from violating election law or creating other legal issues for themselves and the org at large. giving them access to national infrastructure, getting them set up with communication lists, helping them work through the process of getting bank accounts, dues share, and when they’re established doing trainings for their local campaigns, putting them in touch with resources for larger national campaigns, etc. membership has dropped and the current proposal leaves the remaining organizers with over 80 chapters each

literally the sort of infrastructural poo poo you need if you want to be anything more than a local book club.

gutting this just reflects the complete baby brain lack of perspective these loving internet posers have about this org.

the majority NPC appears to want to dismantle the existing staff union infrastructure so they can direct funds toward their caucus dictated priorities like preserving the health insurance and paid salaries for the 1099 independent contractor npc co-chairs. its loving starve the beast conservatism in action

co chairs on an npc that can’t seem to produce a budget with actual numbers on it and instead want to drive ahead with firing 8 people (approx 4 more than required to hit their previously requested budget deficit). no target budget number presented in negotiations. these are not professionals in any sense of the word, they are literally just moron internet brains.

this clusterfuck of a committee is consistently self admitting to negotiating in bad faith with the union, committing numerous nlrb violations, and somehow thinks this isn’t going to bite them.

co-chair loving crying on twitter about how hard this has been for her. outrageous. it looks like the plan is to bust the union to gut staff and give jobs for their caucus deep state friends




like i am constantly thinking back on union meetings when i was a teamster and contrasting it with the sort of poo poo the self proclaimed left gets up to and it’s incredible. we are doomed.

i’m trying to imagine if i had a job where different people with zero competence or understanding of my industry got to come in every two years and make a bunch of proclamations and then were tasked with trying to balance a budget (but also they dont know how to count past 10 with their shoes on). loving depressing.


not to say that the cspam internet communists dont have a lot of great advice to give in this thread, but fermun you dont know what youre talking about and this thread is just a spectacle for this reactionary cesspool to jack off to drama in.

maybe don’t post like you know how any of this poo poo has gone or have any sort of valuable perspective to add, unless youre gonna leak new behind the scenes caucus deep state chats?

"Baby brain"? Can you please go back and reword this?

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

How do I get in on this? It's super embarrassing but seems incredibly lucrative

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Pomeroy posted:

I'm surprised to see them named here, as far as I was aware, their SoCal supporters had all split to form the "Internationalist Group," who I've had the displeasure to encounter twice, once when they tried to hijack the Q&A at an ANSWER Coalition Korea Unification conference to denounce the WPK as capitulationist, and once when one of them tried to call me an antisemite (self-hating, I suppose) for disagreeing with their delusional worker-ist line on Palestine.

They're sometimes called "ortho-Trots" because on paper they're closer to Trotsky's actually stated views, critical support for "degenerated workers states" against imperialism, and so on, but in practice they're narrowly economistic sectarians, they invariably find excuses to dismiss national liberation struggles as bourgeois, and they have a bizarre obsession with seeing antisemitism everywhere, to the point that they can be counted on to defend whatever Hollywood sicko is exposed on any given day as the victim of a fascist witch hunt.

EDIT: that said, I wouldn't want this to come off as justifying the LA leaders in this particular controversy, if DSA twitter is at all accurate, they're wanting to get rid of him because he's loudly demanding a break with the Democratic party, and an endorsement of a third party candidate against genocide Joe.

I'm awarding a point to the anarchists

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

paying dues towards sending gusano delegations to cuba gives me a bit of authority on the topic of stalin, actually

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Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

stalins only mistake was that he didn't eat trotsky earlier. he filled up on grain too early

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