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Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Cuttlefush posted:

lol you met iron crowned

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Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

goon in the seattle lan thread was hyping his cool org the other day too

Mr. Lobe posted:

A group called the Seattle Revolutionary Socialists. Pretty small potatoes, but that's the Marxist left for you in America.

We're good about tabling though. If you ever see a group with a bunch of books and a red banner, that's us. You see a tall white guy in black with a beard, that's me.

SRS Website posted:

China and Cuba, like the former Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc, have nothing to do with socialism. We support the struggles of workers in these countries against the bureaucratic ruling class.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

mawarannahr posted:

I do not think they send money to British expats fwiw, they seem pretty harmless and they show up to stuff in their small numbers

sinophobia is not harmless op

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001


lmfao

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

if there's like 12 people it should take roughly a half hour for you all to learn enough about china and cuba to reverse your position, though I doubt you're keen on that if you're following the traditional trotskyite wrecker approach to politics

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

FRSO seems pretty good on this but they may not have a chapter where you live.

hm they do seem pretty good

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

The Lemondrop Dandy posted:

Our local DSA chapter is that. Your mileage may vary chapter to chapter.

do they support hamas

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Weka posted:

It serves as a pressure release valve that allows people to think they are doing the right thing, salving their justifiably guilty westoid conscience.

yup, just like the democrat party

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Raskolnikov38 posted:

because democratic centralism is scary

yup

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

fermun posted:

you need 130,000 members to be a party in new york state, in new york dsa has slightly under 10,000

drat that's a big polycule

moreover, free croup

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

lmfao

https://twitter.com/dsa_losangeles/status/1752801844202819754

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

khazar sansculotte posted:

Do you think it's this NPC? Seems like the driving factor is membership dropped over the last few years and there's not enough dues to pay as many people as there were a few years ago.

Or are you just talking about the messy internet drama?

membership dropped because of how dumb national was acting in more than one domain

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

still lolling that DSA has a union at all

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

fermun posted:

because the union proposal carried over the 2023 budget as what the 2024 budget would be ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be a convention of over 1000 people with 6 catered meals in a union hotel in 2024 like there was in 2023.

the current majority was the minority prior to the last convention and is not responsible for the current budget crisis, the current npc minority is.

notifications have to be voted on by the npc with 24 hours advance notice of what the proposals are, the proposal to lay off 7 union staff members and 1 director was sent by a npc member to the rest of the npc, one of the npc minority then sent that to the staff union and posted it on twitter which is what prompted the proposal to be posted on the dsa forums.


the union proposed 4 meetings where they would propose alternate budget cuts to the npc, they presented cutting catering for 2024 at the first, nothing that would save any jobs at the second meeting, they said they didn't think there was any reason to have any layoffs at the third meeting due to 35K raised in january and 950k of cuts that the NPC had made in january, then they cancelled the 4th meeting. the staff isn't being serious about the position dsa is in where it will literally go bankrupt next year and can not even afford to have a convention of any kind next year right now. what is dsa supposed to do, hold monthly fundraising phonebanks to call existing members to ask them to increase their monthly dues? because that's literally what the npc minority is proposing and just hoping that raises enough money to get dsa through the end of 2025

blaming minorities ftw

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

khazar sansculotte posted:

Democratic Socialists of America

*puts on They Live glasses*

Social Democrats of America

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

btw has DSA gotten rid of their anti-communist or anti-democratic-centralism bylaws yet?

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

I voted for the 150k catering budget :twisted:

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

btw has DSA gotten rid of their anti-communist or anti-democratic-centralism bylaws yet?

lol right on cue:

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

no I don't think I'm in DSA

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

and I'm definitely not in LA

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

expelling members seems smart when you're already struggling to keep them

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

PostNouveau posted:

See this is why I don't read books

People tell me "Oh you should read theory" and it's like, why so I can know what an ortho-Trot is? What if I read it wrong and become an ortho-Trot?

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Pomeroy posted:

I appreciate the bit, but I really don't think anyone could come to their views independently, without being coached as an impressionable student.

Even a person had only ever read their bible, Trotsky's "Transitional Program," would be extremely unlikely to interpret it as describing a world economic and political situation identical to that of the present day.

I'm gonna become an ortho trot just to prove you wrong

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Jon Pod Van Damm posted:

The DSA, or as I like to call them the Domesticated Society of Anarchists :smugbert:

makes sense why membership is down - they are all aging out

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

https://twitter.com/cleanbreaknow/status/1774126511534043370

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

fermun posted:

even if the org has never outright stated that it is against pedophilia

drat, wonder why that is...

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001


drat I guess the pedo is at least right about something

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

CPC Seattle branch when

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

https://twitter.com/Jef_The_Leftist/status/1775953536817262596

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001


was calling for the abolishment of judaism

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

lmao

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Doktor Avalanche posted:

just expell them and be done with it, wreckers go home

they can't afford to expel anyone

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

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Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

posting words I wrote elsewhere to address this Stalin slander re: Israel:


he didn't ideologically support the ethnostate, it was an attempt to counter British imperialism in the middle east, which if successful would've had massively positive effects for both the arab nations and the soviet union

as soon as israel started aligning with the west, the soviets correctly withdrew any support. but that same western alignment clearly demonstrates that had stalin not supported the formation of israel it would've happened regardless due to the eventual western support

he made a calculated play to improve conditions for the middle east and the soviet state, and when it didn't pan out he bailed. sometimes you have to take risks in order for better things to become possible

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