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Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

It's me, actually.

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Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Al! posted:

The Spartacus League (German: Spartakusbund) was a Marxist revolutionary movement organized in Germany during World War I.[1] It was founded in August 1914 as the International Group by Rosa Luxemburg,


oh, lol

It's a Trotskyist organization and member of the Fourth International.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

I can fix them...

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

I've become Legitimately Mad about the Cuba trip. Maybe I should spend $5 on a DSA forum account...

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Xaris posted:

I thought you could fix them??

I can, and I will. Watch this space.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

DaysBefore posted:

Lotta grievances generated and nobody to settle them....

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

DaysBefore posted:

Bro no way. That's too loving funny to be real

Our local chapter had the CEO of a major corporation you have heard of as a member lmfao

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

They lost interest after Bernie and became a Synthesizer Guy full time.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

DaysBefore posted:

Head of the DSA Miami chapter, Fulgencio Batista III

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

I'm going to convince Abuela Blanca to run for NPC.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Unrelated but one time in the DSA I made fun of another guy's shoes and it caused a multi-month cascade of meltdowns that ended with a bunch of people quitting the org. This is called heightening the contradictions

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Lpzie posted:

they're supposed to be big and floppy and squeak u idiot

I could have respected clown shoes as apropos to the project but he always wore boat shoes with shorts and no socks. It's an upsetting combo and we should be more inclusive to people who are triggered by trenchfoot

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

comedyblissoption posted:

personally meeting president xi followed by falun gong

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Mukulu posted:

So I'm not a smart man. Can one of you nice people break down why you all don't like Trotsky(ists)?

If you want a much deeper discussion of this, I encourage you to take it to the Marxism thread. But in brief: Trotsky was right imo. But he was such an obnoxious goon about it that he managed to get himself killed. Early Trotskyists saw this not as a political failure on Trotsky's part to learn from but rather an indictment of the Soviet system entirely and Stalin personally as excessively authoritarian. In the decades since, the Trotskyist movement has been an ideological shelter for very annoying contrarians (like Trotsky), which Marxist movements already attract in spades. In my personal experience, a lot of the Trotskyists around where I'm at end up there either because they have an anti-Stalinist view (irrelevant but like Trotsky himself they can't shut up about it), or (more commonly) because they can't hack it in the social circles of other Marxists.

This has made them a very attractive current for various global anti-communist interests, because all you need to do it pay a pittance to keep their newspaper running and they'll act as irritating wreckers for you.

That said, not all Trotskyist groups are like this, of course. In my view Socialist Alternative is one of the more effective anti-capitalist groups in the United States, in that they've had any effect at all, anywhere. My personal interactions with SA members have generally been productive and they generally demonstrate some kind of internal discipline, which is woefully short supply in the anti-capitalist movement generally.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Ultimately the reason online anti-capitalists hate Trotskyists is because the haters can't separate memes from reality tho

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Thank you, Pepe, for demonstrating.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

War and Pieces posted:

As anyone cracked the code on the Trotskyist-to-NeoCon pipeline?

I just did, in my earlier post.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Stalin loved the Nazis, and Nazi ideology. He smooched every Nazi member he could find. This was true of the whole Petrograd Soviet and thus trickled down to the entire USSR system. This is why WW2 was mostly just German and Soviet troops pretending to shoot each other and die in huge numbers. Typical smoke and mirrors operation.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Russian guy still laying on the ground at Kursk pretending to be dead. Never give up, never surrender.

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

tfw stalin gives you a kiss

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

thats exactly right, mr. beast

Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Ytlaya posted:

I have to give the person who gave me this avatar credit that it's the only time I've felt annoyed enough at an avatar purchase to want to change it despite having avatars turned off.

I'm still not going to do it, but I can't say I'm a fan of having Mr. Beast next to all my posts.

If you made better posts this wouldn't be an issue.

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Son of Sorrow
Aug 8, 2023

Phone banking for fascism.

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