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Cassian of Imola posted:hey quick question op what was the USSR's policy on the Nazis before deciding that defeating them was the best strategy, and what made them change their minds if you're going to pretend that you don't understand why the molotov-ribbentrop pact happened how can you possibly be trusted to discuss the rest of socialist history
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 17:52 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 06:14 |
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HallelujahLee posted:i personally signed the molotov pact meanwhile, cowardly members of the reform & revolution caucus decided they were too good to meet with one of hitler's top men
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:24 |
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but seriously, folks, if you want an example of an old bolshevik whose theoretical ideas were ahead of his time but who was too bad at politics to avoid getting killed, look no further than nikolai bukharin
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:25 |
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the cpc allied with the kmt on two separate occasions, the second time after a disastrous betrayal, and the result was that they liberated china from the foreign invaders and domestic capitalists both. this probably explains why mao praised stalin for his contributions to socialism and the cpc upholds stalin to this day
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 23:46 |
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mila kunis posted:That's so weird. According to this one moron American leftist Stalin betrayed them so why aren't they mad about it to this day? You'd think they'd be especially frank about him after the sino Soviet split the funny thing is that not only CAN you have it both ways w/r/t mr. ioseb "socialism in one country" jugashvili but you CAN ONLY have it both those ways, because it is only by defending and supporting various socialist revolutions as they happen across the globe do you make concrete steps towards global socialism. trotskyist internationalism amounts in practice to socialism in no country, because, mysteriously, the non-european people who keep having a go never quite do it right and thus never quite merit our support or emulation
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 23:57 |
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Cassian of Imola posted:no communism is cool, incl. existing forms of communism, including stuff like agricultural collectivisation. I didn't think Stalin was such hot poo poo what with all the shooting poets, the carving up Poland with Hitler, etc. but the USSR was sweet both as a utopian project and as a real existing place to live. absolutely unimaginable today that a country would, for example, create a massive bureaucracy dedicated to preserving and translating the literatures of dozens of languages and cultures within its borders while also pursuing space exploration and a universal standard of living. pretty sure I'm just the social retard kind of trot not the CIA stooge kind. but who can tell if they're a CIA stooge if "carving up Poland with Hitler" is just something stalin did because the asiatic blood coursing through his veins made him crave evil and murder, what do you think the smart, sensible, trotskyist option would have been
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 00:18 |
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Cassian of Imola posted:thinking about that scene in death of stalin when stalin fell over and peed his pants i wonder why lib dem supporter armando iannucci chose to depict stalin that way
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 00:54 |
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here's some cool dsa news. the IC's statement on the iran strike was acknowledged by al mayadeen https://www.almayadeen.net/news/pol...%A5%D8%B3%D8%B1
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 01:37 |
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Top City Homo posted:they were not ahead they were garbage and belong in the garbage personally, i'm glad the right opposition lost same as the left opposition did. still, the modern-day success of china shows us that there's a way for a worker's state to benefit from tightly-controlled lower-to-middle-level marketization
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 23:32 |
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Weka posted:I think this sort of marketization can't generally work immediately after the revolution, otherwise it's unlikely to be tightly controlled. i agree, that's why i call him "ahead of his time". i think you needed rapid collectivization and strong command and control in order to macro up enough t-34s to beat hitler, but bukharin's desire to just let the middle peasants enrich themselves (or whatever it was) looks a little less bizarre in light of the modern era as for having actual readings to recommend: no, i am just going off what i understand as the conflict between the soviet center and bukharin's "right opposition" (like how the ancient proles of the round table podcast described him, possibly on their rev left radio guest appearance) and comments friends of mine have made. sorry! so it's possible i don't realize how stupid his ideas actually were and am talking out of my rear end
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 19:45 |
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but anyway, if i know one thing, it's this: the houthi lusts for vienna
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 19:47 |
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Cassian of Imola posted:if you think somebody's opinion of a crazed paranoid alcoholic/revolutionary hero who peed his pants and died 70 years ago is a reliable indicator of their stance on gaza you should make it a point to talk to one single person in real life ASAP it's actually a very good indicator, since the same ultras who pretend not to understand why molotov-ribbentrop was a good move also tend to pooh-pooh other struggles for national liberation in the face of colonial invasion as "campism" or whatever, and therefore denounce cuba, vietnam, china, and palestine. they'll be like, it's "campist" to support hamas against israel, in fact the workers of BOTH countries should--
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 17:54 |
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DaysBefore posted:The only camp I support is the work camp at my grandfathers sugar plantation oh so we're against broadening your horizons over summer vacation now??
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 06:14 |
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5'5", 555 lbs. they call me the golden boy
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