DSA: our brake light guy got arrested for beating his wife

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GlyphGryph posted:

What do the different membership tiers mean?

Like there's an Introductory one on the site but not in the OP, what's up with that one.

membership tiers determine the pecking order in the post-revolutionary world. hope you donated enough to not end up shoveling poop in siberia.

You can put me down as a member in NYC

# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 20:59

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# ¿ May 6, 2024 14:20

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cheese posted:

There is a DSA slack? That's a thing?

If you need the link for signup, pm me.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 03:11

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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

i requested to join the DSA slack and they never got back to me

Did you fill out a google doc form?

# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 07:19

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Phi230 posted:

the reason why they're nazis in the first place is because they're social outcasts. They've always been the nerds. Turns out nerds are also lovely people despite being victimized.

See the popularity of Ender's Game for evidence

# ¿ Feb 9, 2017 18:48

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i went to a happy hour in jersey city and it was good

# ¿ Feb 9, 2017 20:40

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we will never have gangtags b/c socialism is inefficient and nothing gets done under socialism

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 06:34

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Thaddius the Large posted:

You either die a leftist, or live long enough to become a democrat. Oh god, I'm my parents all over again

My dad thinks trump Is a cool dude so at least I won't suffer that ignoble fate.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 07:41

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logikv9 posted:

Hello DSA thread. Your lovely OP has organized a gangtag for those of you who have donated a minimum of $5 to the DSA, if you choose to have it.

If you would like it, please quote this post along side proof of a donation of sufficient quantity. Proof can be simply quoting an older post you made previously that itself contained donation proof, or if you are a new donor that wants it, quote this post alongside proof of that donation.

I can nearly guarantee that your title will be safe and sound underneath your avatars within five (5) business days, or whenever I check this thread, really.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 09:09

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The gun issue is a diversionary tactic employed by the elites and not worth expending political capital on. We should focus our efforts on enfranchising the population. In the process, a more democratic society would have civilized gun control laws at least according to current polling data.

Edit: Bare arms or don't bare arms, but leave the gun debate to the liberals who love to chase squirrels while the country burns under fascist rule.

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# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 07:54

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So what you're saying is we need to poll black people to find out whether they like speedy or not-so-speedy socialist dating.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 22:33

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What's the DSA position on burritos. Are they a fruit or vegetable?

# ¿ Mar 5, 2017 17:19

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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:

nihilism is a bourgeois ethos

http://politicalideologycatgirls.com/comic/007-nihilism/

# ¿ Apr 24, 2017 23:47

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My application to the actual Socialist Sausage Party was accepted. I'm told we can still be friends though.

# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 09:16

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come join the socialist party. I went to a meeting couple days ago and it was chill with chill people promoting legit socialism. But we def need numbers and if you think the DSA is a sausage party...

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 03:56

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woke cop would turn in his badge

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 16:14

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it's a classic infiltrator tactic to seize control of social media

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 17:11

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lol, community policing is just code for infiltrating communities to build a snitch network

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 19:44

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Internet Explorer posted:

If you can educate one cop he or she may be able to educate a few others. If you want to treat it as us vs. them, good luck.

I've been a manager for a good portion of my life and yet I'm still trying to be involved with IWW.

Our DSA chapter has people who work in the banking industry.

People don't suddenly wake up and quit their job because it's not moral. It takes a lot of learning and introspection to get to the point where you're making a decision to put your principles over the need to support your family.

working in the banking industry, as reprehensible as that is, shouldnt be equated with working as a cop. to say so betrays a lack of class consciousness

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 20:04

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why don't poors vote to improve their material conditions - an idiot

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 22:57

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Not pleased that we are endorsing milquetoast liberal Khader El-Yateem to New York city council unless he's some kinda secret socialist.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2017 00:43

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there's a good case for abolitionism but with the amount of pro-police propaganda blared in the US, I just can't see the message gaining much traction.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2017 01:43

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I propose changing Democratic to Nationalist for better outreach

# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 06:07

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The DSA is in all likelihood well-infiltrated, but cop accusations are counter-revolutionary unless there's very clear evidence.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 14:20

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TomViolence posted:

you left out all the dead cops

# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 23:09

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what was the convention result on electoral politics?

# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 19:32

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on hold with sex line posted:

Basically helping people is a waste of time or inherently coercive, yea

I extremely disagree

well if US foreign aid is any indication :v:

# ¿ Sep 14, 2017 02:52

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Having Harvey Weinstein as supreme leader of the DSA may be bad, but at least we don�t gulag dissidents like they do in NK

# ¿ Oct 18, 2017 02:47

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How can we say that participating in the electoral system is a waste of time and resources, yet the DSA still puts the call out for canvassers for Green Party candidates. The DSA needs to become a political party and run candidates on the socialist ticket in order to be taken seriously.

# ¿ Oct 19, 2017 04:41

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Yandat posted:

There is no socialist ticket, the rules for parties getting on ballots are an extremely high and unfair hurdle and in most cases not worth jumping over. In most cases running as an independent while campaigning as a socialist would be the best bet.

There's also a whole can of worms with regard to nonprofit status, taxes, etc. if the DSA were to become a political party like the Republicans or Democrats. It's a whole thing that smarter lawyerly people have discussed at length. From what I understand it might be a bad idea.

In a lot of ways we're so far away from this being relevant that this conversation is almost not worth having, though having thought about it in case of success is probably good.

I agree that canvassing for the Green Party is silly.

I may be biased as a dual member of Socialist Party USA and DSA, but I don�t see what the problem is with becoming a party.

In other news, this is bad:

https://medium.com/@dsarichmond/statement-on-the-dsa-funds-for-victims-of-terrorism-in-charlottesville-b9f05b6da98c

over 2 months and still no payouts. wtf

# ¿ Oct 19, 2017 05:10

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all business schools are bad and corporate indoctrination camps

# ¿ Oct 19, 2017 18:17

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Business Gorillas posted:

also re: entryism vs. a new party:

i think making a new party is fuckin stupid but anyone serious about electoral solutions to capitalism should definitely look into working on dem campaigns as (((progressive dems)))

we're already going to be at enough of a disadvantage, but cutting your teeth in campaigns you have no vested interest in is good

lol @ working with dems

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/921008097107247104

there is an existing Socialist Party, but it�s small and we need more members. We also believe in a diversity of tactics, except we are hardline anti-dems and for good reason.

# ¿ Oct 20, 2017 03:06

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all conflicts will be resolved via twitter from now on

# ¿ Oct 20, 2017 21:39

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Latest Dead Pundits Society is a really good episode on the pitfalls of social democracy: https://soundcloud.com/deadpundits/ep-32-corbyn-the-pitfalls-of-social-democracy-w-leo-panitch

# ¿ Oct 21, 2017 17:52

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Phi230 posted:

social democracy is a lie and a poison of the mind just stop being such a wimp and be a full socialist

good part is you don't even gotta have a specific tendency or go full communist you can just be a socialist

its wonderful and it frees the mind

social democracy is basically democratic centralism in so many ways

# ¿ Oct 21, 2017 19:31

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The Socialist Party USA just had their national convention here in NYC. Some good progress was made in making the party more prepared for growth. I'm quite partial to the idea that the DSA should merge back with the Socialist Party at some point for legit entryism under the socialist banner (as opposed to green/dem/tankies). Electoral politics is a wash in so many ways, but if American socialists wants to be taken seriously, I think it's necessary. Also, diversity of tactics is a good thing.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2017 04:44

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it�s counterintuitive but it may actually be harder to influence things at a local municipal level due to the tentacles of the real estate industry. a lot of p radical mayors have been elected but then just oversaw neoliberal reforms.

the difference is branding. radicalized dems isn�t something easily discernible when you�re still eating all that corporate money

# ¿ Oct 24, 2017 14:37

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GunnerJ posted:

See I think there is an advantage to having an electoral party and a non-electoral activism group be separate entities. They can work together, but each can do some things the other cannot. What's the advantage of an organizational merger that membership overlap and cooperation wouldn't have?

what exactly can a non-electoral activism group do that a electoral party can�t do? the socialist party engages in all sorts of stuff outside regular electoral politics

# ¿ Oct 24, 2017 15:13

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big black turnout posted:

it's not a huge thing obviously, but just down to meeting spaces, here locally we can get a meeting room at the library as a non partisan political organization, but couldn't if we were a party

also i don't want my money going towards running vanity campaigns which is all third parties can do

surrender to the democrats/Republicans.

I�m getting more emails from the dsa to canvas for dems that I can trash

# ¿ Oct 25, 2017 13:27

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OhFunny posted:

What's the deal with SPUSA? One of our chairs and her boyfriend just joined SPUSA today.

NHSP and NHSALT* always attend our meetings and events since we're the largest group, but since none of us are that big we're usually collaborating anyway. I don't mind the cross membership, but I was kinda hoping we'd absorb the other groups.

*Disbanded more or less. They split off to form their own thing because SALT is drifting into electoral politics and it rubbed the locals members the wrong way.

I�m in SPUSA. There�s a lot of overlap with what the DSA supports and does, except we want to build an independent party. gently caress the dems and Green Party.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2017 14:52

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# ¿ May 6, 2024 14:20

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big black turnout posted:

Joining SPUSA lets you jerk off about how enlightened you are while absolving your lack of progress on anything because it's everyone else's fault for not joining your jerk off party

you can also do that in the DSA (except for the party bit)

# ¿ Nov 1, 2017 01:03

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