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I talked my wife into going to our first DSA meeting, the next one in Portland isn't for a couple weeks but I'm pretty stoked she agreed, political action isn't really her bag, but it feels pretty good to be doing something, and I'm hoping we can be more plugged in and participant going forward. As an added bonus the meeting is being held at my union's office, so it feels especially appropriate to start there.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 20:34 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 21:04 |
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Same with Portland's, their numbers are up from around 20 attendees in November to over 100 today.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 04:24 |
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Rated PG-34 posted:we will never have gangtags b/c socialism is inefficient and nothing gets done under socialism You either die a leftist, or live long enough to become a democrat. Oh god, I'm my parents all over again
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 06:57 |
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:being a street medic is complicated, i'mma need like a month of training before i could do any of it without accidentally murdering someone with maalox solution If you find it too hard don't worry about it, skip training and in a crisis, just administer your "care" to the fascists. Problem solved!
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2017 07:09 |
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Hulk Krogan posted:Seize the means of lactic acid production. Grab them by the means of production
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2017 16:36 |
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SomeMathGuy posted:I went with single-payer (good for visibility, popular), police brutality (ACAB), and the safety net (feed the people for gently caress's sake). This was my vote, especially to boost popularity, single payer and the safety net are both popular and a good babby's first step to socialism for a bunch of moderates; I figured police brutality was both massively important a good way to reach out to and connect with BLM and other groups, to try and combat the stereotype/narrative that DSA is a bunch of white guys solely interested in economic disparity.
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# ¿ May 26, 2017 00:47 |
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R. Guyovich posted:making GBS threads on other orgs for no reason accomplishes nothing R. Guyovich posted:the people i've talked to in the local dsa have been good people doing good work and participate in actions and are doing all the right things so i don't think your dumbass posts are in any way representative. but gently caress off with that poo poo I think this is totally fair, we should be working to unite and find common cause. I don't believe random posts on a dying comedy forum are really indicative of the overall organization, nor would I take posts here particularly seriously, but to each their own, and it is important to have the occasional reminder that we're ostensibly on similar sides. R. Guyovich posted:your experience is wrong and it's very dumb to universalize it. namaste This, however, is a pretty terrible way of going about it, especially in telling a person of color that their experience is wrong, and is doing exactly what you're accusing others of. Socialists have enough trouble with the perception that it's a bunch of white people ignoring issues of race on an organizational level, if not outright discriminating, and doing so on a personal level isn't any better. Rather than shutting down that conversation, we should be open to criticism and feedback, and seek to be more inclusive of how to best advocate for the oppressed. Isn't that kind of why we're all here?
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 19:40 |
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Shear Modulus posted:Can I ignore the twitter civil war like I do most of everything else of the left and center-left's nonstop twitter drama or is this one actually important I'll have you know Breastghazi was one of the defining battles of our generation
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 17:50 |
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Yeah, maybe I'm weird, but I'm all for organizing in a local level. especially for a multi tendency, broadly focused leftist organization, its hard to picture how to manage things on a national scope, better to improve things and take over in your city/county/state, and build from there.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2017 04:48 |
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RL Stephens is good people, Praxis gets points for that alone.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2017 21:58 |
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Agean90 posted:the posadists are the glue holding the dsa together goddamnit why can't I stop laughing at Jacofin
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 04:23 |
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fermun posted:imo, first we radicalize the juggalos and then we recruit from there Just have to learn their language and convert it to our own. loving magnates, how do they work?
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2017 07:36 |
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https://twitter.com/jacksmithiv/status/896405877049241601
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2017 18:07 |
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achillesforever6 posted:
So you seized the sheets of confection, I'm hoping you also helped distribute it to the masses?
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2017 07:16 |
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R. Mute posted:leftists love buttons, it's true gonna be honest, I'm really just into socialism for all the cool shirts and paraphernalia.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2017 19:18 |
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Roberts Rules usually drive me crazy, but they were super helpful at our last chapter meeting, even though most everyone (including the person running the meeting) didn't have a super solid grasp on them. It helped keep the entire debate/argument over a response to the whole Danny thing to under 60 minutes, even though things got quite heated between the younger, more anti-establishment group and the older, hardcore unionist folks. Also, it was really hilarious seeing a bunch of nerds I've never seen at a meeting before who didn't have much of a perspective on that issue, but were nevertheless SUPER worked up about the rules. On that issue, the vote was close but ultimately in favor of a statement calling for Danny's resignation. I think the aforementioned union crew were a bit put out by the lack of faith in a long-term activist/organizer, but their kind of funny argument was a slippery slope "if we throw out the police, what about the machinists union, will we cast them out for making weapons of war and imperialism? Or the corrections officers, who are part of SEIU, when we're even meeting in their building?" I hope they stick around despite the outcome, there's some really cool old guard union guys who have great stories about kicking rear end back in the 60's during strikes, but such is the hazard of democracy. And in fairness, there was one old longshoreman who was extremely anti-police due to some gnarly scars on his head from a cop's baton 35 years ago.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2017 20:21 |
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Agean90 posted:https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/897913715584094208 well this wasn't worth the effort, but it's all I could see after reading that blurb
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2017 21:39 |
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:my only bristly experience w/ RR was when the PDX DSA chapter had a very exhaustive debate regarding an official statement regarding Fetonte. After over an hour of debate the members had hit a wall and were in 'please god let's just vote and get this over with' mode. When I attempted to point out that the drafted statement contradicted itself (starts with a call for Fetonte to resign immediately citing his CLEAT work as disqualifying him for the position, finishes with a "we will support a NPC fact finding mission, if it says what we think it will say he should step down immediately") I got shouted down for not following some part of parliamentary procedure and was functionally told that the time for me to make statements like that was over and that I would not be allowed to elaborate. OTOH that meeting was pretty drat hilarious in seeing just how wound up some people get about parliamentary procedure. I liked the debate, agreed it was going on too long, but was also really enjoying the spectacle of a couple nerds jumping up to shout out their magic catchphrases that’d steer the conversation.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2017 21:39 |
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Brazil fits the bill
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2017 21:34 |
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Shear Modulus posted:The Running Man to be honest I almost didn’t mention it since I haven’t seen Brazil in about 15 years, but I thought of bleak sci-fi capitalistic hellscape and it popped into my head.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2017 23:38 |
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HMS Beagle posted:Any Portland DSA people in here? It seems there is an intense amount of drama all of a sudden. Late but yeah, I’m in PDX DSA. That being said, I’m also not especially up to date on Slack or Facebook and have been out of town or otherwise busy for the last two chapter meetings, so I’ve only caught the hilarity from the periphery. This sort of bullshit is exactly why I don’t get overly involved with any organization so much as focus on individual passion causes, because it’s pretty petty and ridiculous. I mean, I agree with what the rogue emailer said in general about needing to do some real work on addressing racial injustice, but doing an email blast complaining about it to the whole chapter in a resignation letter is really silly. Plus, I didn’t attend any of the meetings in question, so I have a hard time judging harshly based on only her account. Basically, leftists gonna leftist and split off into factions to cannibalize their own, so what the gently caress ever, I’ll maybe be back at the next meeting and see where all the chips fell.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2017 03:36 |
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My understanding was that the leadership committee requested member comments on the candidates in advance, so as to circulate them at the meeting, and accordingly cut back on the floor time needed for comments; the plan would be to hear from and question the candidates at the meeting, discuss, and then vote on whether to endorse. As several members of leadership were against endorsement (importantly, they were not against voting for the candidates in the election, but they generally seemed to feel they didn’t rise to the level of DSA endorsement), the candidates all seemed to interpret this as that they wouldn’t be endorsed at all, resulting in their withdrawing requests for nomination, some more fervently than others, and walking out. Chaos ensued. Personally, I was on the fence with DeGraw and Jama, and wanted to hear from them, but against Garcia, as on her questionnaire response to DSA, she openly said she’s not a socialist, which is a pretty loving key criteria for endorsement in my book. Not to say I wouldn’t vote for them necessarily, but I tend to hold endorsement to a higher standard. Moreover, while I get how they might have misunderstood the statements circulated by leadership, and can see how they could have been more clear in explaining the agenda for today to the candidates, getting all hot and bothered at the “confrontation” was really ridiculous, and didn’t really endear any of them to me. All that said, it’s loving hilarious that this chapter’s meetings continue to be utter shitshows, it’s the best entertainment in town and you can attend for free!
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2018 01:17 |
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HBar posted:https://twitter.com/PortlandDSA/status/972938915962273792 she was, and did
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2018 01:30 |
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I mean, I think this is a good opportunity to be reflective about the process, even if what the plan was seemed clear to me, all three candidates had a significant misconception of what was going on, and that’s worthy of consideration, my definition of clear communication is hardly the only (or even an important) one. That being said, their withdrawing and storming out was also troubling, and speaks little of their willingness to collaborate with a sizable local progressive organization. Basically, everyone sucks and is stupid, me most of all.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2018 22:44 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 21:04 |
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Vhak lord of hate posted:what am i reading you ask? oh a little known guy named umberto eco, you may know him for being the most popular italian author ever. im pretty underground and worldly for even knowing about him. heard of a lil book called name of the rose much its only one of the bestselling books of all time Wait, where does he talk about Mario Puzo?
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2018 06:14 |