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I caught the end of Rogan's podcast and he just sounded loving disheartened at how stupid Eddie Bravo is and kept trying to end the podcast. E] Alex Jones kept yelling "Once in a lifetime chance for me to tell you what's really goin on!" Then trying to get Eddie Bravo to punch him in the arm 
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:I caught the end of Rogan's podcast and he just sounded loving disheartened at how stupid Eddie Bravo is and kept trying to end the podcast. When Rogan starts to look at your like a crazy person the canary in your coal mine isn't just dead but on fire.
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I mean, the evidence of Korean sovereignty over Dokdo is clearly recorded in many history books of Korea. To quote Hendo, "You can't rewrite history."
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Bubba Smith posted:ummmm... alright. sounds great
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I'd go if I got a free Chili Peppers concert at the end.
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Bubba Smith posted:ummmm... alright. enzyte salesmen are going to be all over this thing
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Dogbrisket posted:deffo 100% natural I'm gonna ask my coach (who fought Cung 4 times in sanshou) if he was on the juice back then.
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God I hope we get a great Conan thing out of this
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Intel&Sebastian posted:*is down by 124 points* it tends to work like that the other way in this thread as well. although i personally dont mind tim kennedy since his only crime is saying crap online
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Bubba Smith posted:ummmm... alright. thats a really nice gesture
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I.N.R.I posted:it tends to work like that the other way in this thread as well. although i personally dont mind tim kennedy since his only crime is saying crap online I didnt like his stance on ptsd, knowing some people with it but I have no animosity toward him. Hes just a dumb rear end.
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Tim Kennedy cheated against Yoel, then Yoel cheated less egregiously and killed him. That's my favourite Tim Kennedy memory.
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I.N.R.I posted:it tends to work like that the other way in this thread as well. although i personally dont mind tim kennedy since his only crime is saying crap online For some reason I thought his only crime was war crimes, but perhaps I'm misremembering
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david carmichael posted:For some reason I thought his only crime was war crimes, but perhaps I'm misremembering i dont like the military either
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Bubba Smith posted:ummmm... alright. If anyone wants a free trip to las vegas so bad they should probably just look at Chael Sonen's timeshare.
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Snowman_McK posted:Tim Kennedy cheated against Yoel, then Yoel cheated less egregiously and killed him. That's my favourite Tim Kennedy memory. IMO Yoel's cheating was actually more egregious, but he was at best 25% conscious during it, so I think it averages out to less.
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I can form opinions on people who post stupid stuff online but Tim Kennedy is fairly unique in that he used a tshirt give away to insinuate that he could now travel to the perspective recipient's houses and murder them with his gun.
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I.N.R.I posted:i dont like the military either Oh it's not that he's in the military. Tim bragged about killing women and children a few times. Actual war crimes. Also good excuse to use that norm joke
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LobsterMobster posted:While Cung Le getting violently owned is rad (love that 1st Scott Smith fight), he beat up Wanderlei and made Joe Rogan cry out in anguish, which is extremely cool. Unless I'm completely missing the joke, that was another example of Cung Le getting violently owned. Joe Rogan cried over the defeat of spinning back kicks, not PRIDE never die.
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Fat Twitter Man posted:Unless I'm completely missing the joke, that was another example of Cung Le getting violently owned. Joe Rogan cried over the defeat of spinning back kicks, not PRIDE never die. gently caress, you're right My brain is a ruinous mess
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I don't think you can just assume that WME massively overpaid for the UFC. The UFC isn't snapchat or instagram with some massive unrealized profits which would make someone value it on potential future earning. UFC is and always will be a niche sport that could easily go out of fashion as quickly as it has gone into it. Pulling together a deal this size with a company that is willing to take on the risk/find the financing was probably pretty darn hard. Since nobody has a good idea what the UFC's books really look like, nobody really knows what WME has to do to make this a good investment. I don't think a better TV deal will actually equate to more profitability for WME. A better TV is probably a hell of a lot less risky than relying on PPV revenue which can be highly variable and which is mostly driven by individual fighters.
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david carmichael posted:Oh it's not that he's in the military. Tim bragged about killing women and children a few times. Actual war crimes. Also good excuse to use that norm joke really ? i didnt know that. my apologies if its true
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UFC sells a lot of ppvs and doesn't have to pay their talent that much, I don't know why anyone would think it isn't bare minimum profitable.
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Work Friend Keven posted:UFC sells a lot of ppvs and doesn't have to pay their talent that much, I don't know why anyone would think it isn't bare minimum profitable. yeah. I've seen websites on the internet point toward UFC 206 Holloway vs Pettis as being a failure cause it only did 150k buys but they easily paid all of the purses that night with ticket sales. Even with a low buyrate, all those PPV sales are just profit. It's gonna take quite a few years to earn back the $4.2 billion they invested but every month they're generating like $50-100 million in revenue. They'll get it back. And firing Mike Goldberg was the first step
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Bubba Smith posted:And firing Mike Goldberg was the first step I don't like this thread anymore.
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Bubba Smith posted:yeah. I've seen websites on the internet point toward UFC 206 Holloway vs Pettis as being a failure cause it only did 150k buys but they easily paid all of the purses that night with ticket sales. Even with a low buyrate, all those PPV sales are just profit. They have a lot more costs than just fight purses
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If dana white was rich he'd have hair and his mansion wouldnt just be a shabby farm in maine or wherever. Everyone is on WIC and cant afford the fancy milk now, which is why Mystic Mac (the king of dole living) is our champion.
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Skip My Posts posted:That said I think they're very profitable Meltzer claimed UFC had >$600M in revenue for 2015 and netted >$150M profit, and that was their best year ever. These numbers are probably at least close since they are similar to the ones used to determine how much the company was worth when it was purchased. WME-IMG took on $1.8B in debt buying UFC. Depending on the rate they might be paying $100M/yr in interest. Provided 2015 revenue was the new normal instead of a fluke, yeah, UFC is profitable even with interest payments. Meltzer's PPV estimates that somebody linked earlier indicate 2016 was about as good as 2015 and possibly better.
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Angela Hill as Sagat. Rooting for her for sure now. https://twitter.com/mikedyce/status/827589418814947333
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n8r posted:I don't think you can just assume that WME massively overpaid for the UFC. The UFC isn't snapchat or instagram with some massive unrealized profits which would make someone value it on potential future earning. UFC is and always will be a niche sport that could easily go out of fashion as quickly as it has gone into it. Pulling together a deal this size with a company that is willing to take on the risk/find the financing was probably pretty darn hard. Since nobody has a good idea what the UFC's books really look like, nobody really knows what WME has to do to make this a good investment. I'm in tech and still wonder about the valuation a lot of these social platforms receive. It's all predicated on advertising potential and projections. Many of these companies have never turned a profit and yet once they "capture the market" or whatever, suddenly it's fountains of cash? At least the UFC has a business model we can measure today. And it's fist fighting, our most ancient past time.
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Skip My Posts posted:They have a lot more costs than just fight purses well yes of course but those other costs are much more fixed (things like production, promotional material, flights, hotels, per diem, and all the assistants they have helping fighters). I doubt if those costs are much more than a million per event though. The bulk definitely has to be paying ~24 fighters anywhere from $10k to $100k, more for bigger events.
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You're forgetting overhead back office staff, executive compensation, etc, etc The UFC incurs many costs even when they aren't putting on a card.
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Are we forgetting that or is it just not interesting or relevant to the conversation. Keep in mind, the UFC also has to pay taxes.
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Balthesar posted:You're forgetting overhead back office staff, executive compensation, etc, etc ...and UFC also has more ways of making money than just PPVs and ticket sales, but I wasn't talking about the whole company, just each event. That's where a ton of their money goes and where they get a lot of money back. And more to your point, WME-IMG has already laid off dozens of UFC employees because a lot of the office staff was redundant between the two companies. If anything they're saving money now on that front. The first step to maximizing their profits was definitely getting rid of Mike Goldberg though
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