Smiling Jack posted:Everyone on the show is assuming the "stealth ship" around Venus is Martian but I thought only Protogen had stealth ships? There's no way that's the case. It seemed pretty clear to me that Drummer is loyal to Fred and her listening to Dawes when he came to speak with her was her attempting to learn more about his plans. The chain of events in the attack on Tycho's CnC would be really strange if she wasn't loyal to Fred.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 04:48 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 14:36 |
Smiling Jack posted:Dawes didn't order the attack on the CnC... Wow, thanks for the spoilers.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 05:03 |
Smiling Jack posted:This is a joke right Does my avatar make me look like the kind of guy who would joke about spoilers?
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 05:08 |
NmareBfly posted:I think they don't orbit and consume asteroids around Earth because a hundred years ago politicians freaked everyone out about how easy it would be to tip one down the gravity well and made that poo poo illegal. My take on AI in the Expanse is similar, too. We know the Roci has a pretty powerful computer system that can basically handle everything itself, so I could see the governments going 'well, poo poo, to prevent one power from developing autonomous kill-ships, we should put strict measures on what sort of AI can be developed'.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 01:43 |
Even in the books' take on Basic is pretty bad, dude. It's basically described as enough to survive on but not to live on. I've said before that the network access is basically a severely cut-down version of the normal Internet or whatever. It's not the 'greatest', at all. It's subsistence only. It's really not a huge departure.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 08:42 |
When I see people saying that Basic is actually just fine to live on, I assume they've never seen what things like welfare cards and regulation of what people can and can't buy and what communities can and can't do will do to people. Come on, there's people in this thread saying that they mustn't be on Basic because they're "bartering" (??) or "asking for money" (????). Next to the point that, surely, corporate overlords and the moneyed elite would lobby for an increase to Basic (?????), that's some of the weirder things people are saying in this thread. Am I the only person who's seen people bartering for cash and things outside a supermarket simply because their welfare card can only be used on specific food? Has no one here used a tightly-regulated corporate Internet? What, do you think the free clothing or free apartments they provide are actually good? That's the difference between surviving and living, which I'm surprised has to be illustrated. People on Basic will survive - they won't be dying in the streets, for the most part. But they certainly won't be living. If you want to live, like, enjoy your life and decide things for yourself, people turn to the underworld. edit: Surviving is taking care of your physical needs - food, water, sleep, medicine. Living is taking care of your mental and emotional needs. Everything we see about Basic is that it does nothing for that latter category, which is why crime flourishes in certain areas and why people are so willing to barter for real money. As to the unrest thing - what, you think you could have a successful armed revolution today? You think you could do it two-hundred years in the future where peacekeeping technology has become more militarised (hello, The Churn)? What're hungry, dissatisfied people going to do against people with power armor, military drones, automatic rifles that fire less-than-lethal ammo, and whatever else the UN might have on hand? Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 01:37 |
I think it should also be clarified for the thread, too, that it is Basic Assistance and not basic income.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 01:53 |
They don't want them impoverished, that implies it is their goal. They just don't care if they're impoverished.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 03:20 |
General Battuta posted:Did this show get renewed yet or are we expecting Two more seasons.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2017 06:20 |
I thought Miller meeting Julie was a really good moment that I'd put up there with almost anything from BSG.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 00:19 |
Strom Cuzewon posted:Season 3 is really wonky in places (they should have stayed on New Caprica for most of it imo) but the final few episodes, the Trial of Gaius Baltar and that reveal at the end were just fantastic. The reveal was fantastic in the sense that it was well-made, but as an actual narrative choice... not so much.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 15:17 |
Anyway, episode was a decent finale. But it also had a very 'transitory episode' feeling, which is a bit odd when it should feel more like a full stop and not so much a comma.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 15:19 |
General Battuta posted:The Martian frigate looked awesome, any screencaps? It really made me think of one of the Vaygr corvette designs from Homeworld 2, but I've got no idea if my recollection is accurate.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 01:09 |
hmmmm yase why would protogen arrange a scenario where stealing or destroying the donnager would be advantageous :thethinkingemoji:
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# ¿ May 18, 2017 00:36 |
holy poo poo
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# ¿ May 25, 2017 05:34 |
dog nougat posted:Are there any other sci-fi series somewhat similar to this? Like a modicum of realism/plausibility, and not totally insufferable characters. Trying to watch other poo poo is kinda tedious at this point and I can't suspend my disbelief. Battlestar Galactica probably comes closest. However, even as a fan of it, the characters can be a bit insufferable (mainly in the third season) and it takes a dramatic nosedive in quality following Season 2. As good as it is, it hits the early 2000s notes of 'We have no idea where we're going with this story, let's keep throwing Cryptic Hints out there'. The first season is great (the first episode, 33, is one of the best TV episodes ever) as is much of the second season (with the mid season R-Ship arc being incredible). The next closest is probably Babylon 5, but it's an older show and was low budget, even for its time. But B5 did try to ground things as much as possible. However, if you can get past the low budget aspect of it, it's still one of the best sci-fi series ever made. It definitely has one of the best series finales ever made.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 03:01 |
Much like the rewatch of the Terminator TV series I'm doing in TV/IV, BSG is one of those series where I'm like... What could have been...
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 10:26 |
Elias_Maluco posted:Ive watched BSG only recently, and I mostly really liked it, even the finale and the religious stuff I think a few cast members, like Jamie Bamber, said similar things about the Cylons as the story went on. TBQH, my biggest flaw with BSG is how it tries to play both sides of the discrimination debate. On one hand, the Cylons are basically perfect transhumans who pose an existential threat to humanity's survival. On the other hand, when it suits the narrative, they're actually no different to you and me and the only people who dislike them are unreasonable bigots. It sort of got too much into the Iraq War metaphor. But Seasons 1 and 2 are just grand. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 13:41 |
On the other hand, Amos in the books is described as basically a baby-face on a few occasions.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2017 14:54 |
twistedmentat posted:I had a book of sci-fi short stories, and one of them has a super accurate space battle written by a psychiatrist and its about as exciting as reading a proof. The Russians and Americans were throwing asteroids at each other and it sounds like it should be exciting, but nope. Also, going out to the belt and grabbing giant rocks, then lugging them back to earth to throw at your enemies sounds like a lot more resources that nukes or railguns or laser or plasma weapons. There's a Warhammer 40k short story that actually talks about that last part. quote:Rocks are NOT ‘free’, citizen.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2017 00:46 |
If that's Peaches then, well, I'm surprised.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2017 00:40 |
I think we'll definitely get to the end of Book 3. I also wouldn't be surprised if we get even further given that the first episode mentions the OPA stealing stealth tech. Anyone who has read Book 5 knows what that's some early foreshadowing for, especially since the series has said time and time again that the Protogen conspiracy is Earth-based.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2017 00:05 |
A thirty year time gap? Uhhh... Okay?
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2017 04:34 |
Any news on the Season 2 soundtrack? I'd really like to get my hands on that piece from when Miller meets Julie.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2017 04:51 |
Bobbie going nuts on cucumber sandwiches is the best thing because it demonstrates how horrible Martian food must be.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2017 05:13 |
Open Source Idiom posted:Prose is solid B work. Straightforward, well edited. TBQH, I think the prose improves measurably even just going from LW to CW. uber_stoat posted:I'm glad I saw the first season before I read any of the books just so I could have Shohreh Aghdashloo as my image of Avasarala. I heard all the lines in her voice anyway. It was quite the moment when they announced that she would actually play Avasarala.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2018 07:58 |
Collateral posted:Why did they write a time jump then? They must have a completely different ending for the TV show in mind. They are not even up to end of the second book yet. This one has got to end with the opening of the gates. If the plan is for 5 seasons where do they go from there? End of Book 3?
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2018 13:40 |
Tighclops posted:If I had one major complaint about The Expanse it would be how unremarkable the music has been for the most part. The theme is pretty decent but nothing else has really jumped out at me. The piece from when Miller meets Julie is really good. Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I think the order was "write like Bear McCreary, but 15 years ago." Yeah, it does give me Season 1 Battlestar vibes. I think the Season 2 soundtrack for Expanse was an improvement but it doesn't seem to be getting a release. Unfortunate.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2018 03:16 |
AlternateAccount posted:Can I be a pedant and say that Amos is definitely not a sociopath? He’s got a very strong sense of right and wrong for example. He’s just got a very short flowchart with very few possible outcomes for dealing with things that is what he had to develop to survive. I hope you can, because I was just about to say that. I wouldn't call Amos a sociopath. It's more that he is incredibly violent under certain conditions and that he just considers violence a tool -- and a very effective one. But a key part of Amos' character is that he's aware that he's pretty broken, whether as a result of genetics or his upbringing. He shows some sociopathic tendencies (the superficial charm, seeming lack of genuine affect) but there are many he is precisely the opposite (deception, narcissism, irresponsibility). For example, Amos doesn't lack the capability to feel remorse, but he lacks the capability to express it in a healthy fashion. Likewise, his violence isn't impulsive -- it's a considered response to a threat. When Amos' violence is impulsive, as it gets in Book 7 at points, everyone acknowledges that it's out of character. And it stems from Amos having feelings that he doesn't know how to process, filtering them through the only thing he knows -- which is dog-eat-dog violence. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Feb 15, 2018 |
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2018 05:53 |
and in decorative wall art and tasteful anecdotes (both by diego)
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2018 06:12 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 14:36 |
3 DONG HORSE posted:Only if Venus keeps that sweet 'do UN science ship guys squinting at a monitor: what is it doing down there *cut to a blurry image of glowing blue fireflies and techno-goop, swept over the top of a hill at a particularly rakish angle*
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2018 04:38 |