Platystemon posted:
Not without a lot of joint injuries and cardiovascular problems
|
|
#
¿
Feb 13, 2017 04:56
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 29, 2024 10:24 |
|
Platystemon posted:This is how you start an abortion debate. This would not have happened if the protomolocule had a gun
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 17, 2017 17:57
|
|
R-Type posted:Cutty is going to be loving pissed that his big Mormon bullet couldn't impact a regular asteroid orbit . Predicting they shoot him in the leg. At least they can recover the ship or take another attempt at diverting Eros. Like close at slow speed, press and steer it with superior thrust. Were you paying attention?
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 19, 2017 03:01
|
|
|
Launching stuff into the sun is really hard, you basically have to reduce the orbital velocity of Eros to zero.
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 20, 2017 16:05
|
|
|
welp time to fire up kerbal space program again I don't think you can use planets for reverse gravity assists, none of them have retrograde orbits. Edit: well, enough to have it fall into the sun. You can use them to decelerate. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Feb 20, 2017 |
|
|
#
¿
Feb 20, 2017 20:22
|
|
Cojawfee posted:They don't have to stop Eros, just slow it down enough that it's orbit falls into the sun eventually. Which is basically zero
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2017 02:13
|
|
|
Short version: you need to gently dock with the giant rear end space rock and then burn your engines in a retrograde orbit until it falls into the sun Any collision strong enough to make the velocity change would be catastrophic and lead to the destruction / fracturing / partial vaporization of Eros
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2017 04:48
|
|
Phi230 posted:Guys. Let us nerds have fun
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2017 05:54
|
|
Josh Lyman posted:Docking a ship to Eros then accelerating it to the Sun is stupid because that leaves a bunch of time for UN/MCRN ships to investigate and get contaminated with the protomolecule. Not everything is about energy efficiency. The amount of energy needed to do it through collision would probably vaporize Eros Somebody with more nerd ability than me please express the amount of energy needed in megatons, TIA
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2017 06:08
|
|
|
Minimum required to fall into the sun. Still a staggeringly large amount of energy to transfer in a collision
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2017 06:24
|
|
emanresu tnuocca posted:Now I don't know if this was discussed but don't you really need to only put Eros into a decaying orbit rather than dropping its angular velocity to 0? Isn't that a much smaller delta V investment? Orbital decay is caused by interaction with atmosphere. Eros isn't orbiting anything with an atmosphere that would decay the orbit. Other forces that cause orbital decay are too weak to be effective within a realistic timeframe.
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2017 15:30
|
|
|
I can just see the DM now: "okay so you just rolled a natural 20 on your crazy plan to ram Eros. You know what? Eros moved." "What?" "EROS loving MOVED I GOT A WHOLE SCENARIO PLANNED OUT HERE AND YOU FUCKERS ARENT RUINING IT"
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2017 19:22
|
|
|
I ran a Twilight 2000 campaign that started off as a fairly simple "escape Germany" plot and ended two years later with my players dropping napalm on lovecraftian horrors in a secret MilGov base in a trailer park from a blimp
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2017 22:45
|
|
|
The Aliens Colonial Marines tech manual had a pretty good hard SF take on space combat
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 22, 2017 01:41
|
|
|
As someone who once murdered an important NPC I can see how this all played out Edit: I once had a low level PC attempt to take on Darth loving Vader in single combat during a campaign, players do dumb poo poo. I killed his character of course.
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 22, 2017 19:53
|
|
|
Mr Robot seemed pretty shallow but I only got about three episodes into it, does it get better?
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 23, 2017 17:16
|
|
Xealot posted:I'll have to check out Blindsight, but it sounds a little like Solaris in premise. It's not
|
|
|
#
¿
Feb 24, 2017 01:50
|
|
jfood posted:I know what happens... so you can lay off the 'I R bookposter' poo poo. The showrunners have made some good changes so far, tossing Bobbie out an airlock would just continue with that tradition. drat son step away from the screen and get some fresh air
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 12, 2017 00:12
|
|
jfood posted:What exactly are the internally developed motivations and emotional content of the character? There aren't any. It's external factors all the way down. You have issues
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 12, 2017 00:42
|
|
|
Uh Pakistan has no nuclear armed or nuclear powered subs last I checked
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 14, 2017 21:06
|
|
|
Holy poo poo that's amazing
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 14, 2017 21:28
|
|
Kingtheninja posted:It's me, the guy who doesn't get the joke but asks for everyone who won't. Gerry Adams is both a PIRA terrorist and a the head of the political wing of the PIRA, Sinn Fein. The PIRA used time bombs to kill a lot of people.
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 14, 2017 22:33
|
|
|
oh boy here we go
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 15, 2017 14:52
|
|
OMGVBFLOL posted:It's been mentioned that martian marines train extensively throughout their careers at 1g. It wouldn't be a new experience at all to Draper. Book Draper and several other characters realize that training at 1g and living at 1g are very different things.
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 21, 2017 00:59
|
|
OMGVBFLOL posted:right, but having her struggle to walk across a room would be silly Agreed. I imagine the cumulative effect over several days would lead to fatigue, both from physical exertion and sleep disruption. When you think about it 1 earth g is 3 Martian g, simple poo poo like breathing while sleeping becomes three times as hard.
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 21, 2017 03:52
|
|
NmareBfly posted:I think background detail and stuff the show has definitely moved past is fine, but stuff like this from a page back is no bueno: This is pants on head idiotic and if you consider that a spoiler you're a loving idiot smdftb
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 23, 2017 01:20
|
|
|
get a loving life jfc
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 23, 2017 01:59
|
|
They aren't here to talk about the show they're here to pedantically complain about incredibly minor poo poo and go full   about things that may or may not happen in the showIn short, 
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 23, 2017 02:06
|
|
|
The most amazing thing people have missed is that post-Eros Amos is literate but pre-Eros Amos can't read. This is also why Brad Pitt was considered for the role of Amos. To be fair, PreAmos hides his illiteracy from th other characters, and by extension the viewers, very well.
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 23, 2017 02:52
|
|
|
Finally saw the episode, the whole martians are little bitches on Earth theme was a way bigger deal in the show than I remember from the books
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 24, 2017 06:52
|
|
counterfeitsaint posted:I'm kinda surprised the Martian Embassy isn't like packed full of soldiers living and training there all the time. The show actually goes a bit more in depth than the books, there's a big difference between training there, living there, and growing up there, as referenced by the magic bone density pills (which I guess are either hideously expensive or have massive long term side effexts or all the Martians would take them) The idea that Bobby can't function there in a combat situation isn't correct, as both the Martians and Earthers use power armor. Earth Space Marines would suffer from lesser, but significant effects on physiology from extended low / zero G environments. Power armor equalizes the playing field and allows your forces to wreck poo poo even after suffering muscle loss and bone atrophy. The show has Bobby and crew doing a lot of maintenance and fitting on those suits which implies that they are difficult to maintain and fitted to the user. I imagine they are also pretty expensive. Some of the embassy guards seem to be wearing the power suits. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Mar 24, 2017 |
|
|
#
¿
Mar 24, 2017 08:02
|
|
|
Going back to gravity differences, in the first episode Avasarala tortures a Belter by forcing him to stand up, and comments that one gravity is literally killing him. Keep in mind that all the Belter characters (including Naomi and Miller) are supposed to look like that guy- Belters are so different from "normal" humans that Earthers treat them like another species entirely. Gravity differences would show up in other ways as well. In Arthur C Clarke's 2010, one character who lived on the moon for a long time breaks both legs jumping from a second story balcony- this is normal in Lunar gravity, and despite knowing the difference intellectually, he does it reflexively as jumping down twenty feet is normal on the moon. Something as simple as walking up the stairs would require significant attention as your feet aren't going to be where you expect them to be. Keeping your balance would be difficult, running nearly impossible. This works in both directions, going from high g to low and vice versa. Special effects budgets limit it on screen but martians or lunies or belters on low g stations should be seen bouncing down hallways and caroming around corners like parkour practitioners on crack cocaine while Earthers would have to concentrate on walking down the hall without accidentally jumping five feet in the air.
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 24, 2017 09:18
|
|
|
It wasn't a mafia. they were wearing Star Helix uniforms, who were the private police organization Miller worked for. It implies society has broken down to the extent the security forces went from providing security, to skimming supplies, to straight "gently caress this we're outta here" levels of anarchy.
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 24, 2017 20:41
|
|
Baronjutter posted:I was going to ask when belters are going to start getting their hands chopped off for not meeting ice quotas but that's pretty much the opening scene in the series. The Belgian Congo has been inspiring SF writers for decades 
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 24, 2017 22:56
|
|
AirborneNinja posted:One of the books mentioned how hard it is for earthers/martians to keep up with a belter on the float. Not just the float, it would also show up on Mars / Luna / Eros etc First time you tried to run you'd find yourself jumping ten feet in the air. https://youtu.be/HKdwcLytloU Keep.in mind that suit weighs 180lbs. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Mar 25, 2017 |
|
|
#
¿
Mar 25, 2017 05:49
|
|
Number Ten Cocks posted:
Pretty sure the A7L weighs about 180-200lbsand sources back me up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo/Skylab_A7L
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 25, 2017 16:50
|
|
Number Ten Cocks posted:Uh... In that video, it does not weigh 180-200 lbs. Number Ten Cocks posted:Uh... In that video, it does not weigh 180-200 lbs. My point is that the suit weighs 180lbs in earth gravity, so keep that in mind when watching the video.
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 25, 2017 16:56
|
|
Macdeo Lurjtux posted:It wouldn't be worth it unless you were going to Earth. Bone density is loss is a serious concern of any long term space mission in the current day. Yes, which is why they should be taking magic bone pill on Mars as well but they aren't. Unless magic bone pill is only effective at higher G... Okay that makes sense Anyway NASA did a year long study on a pair of twins, https://www.google.com/amp/amp.space.com/35527-nasa-astronaut-twins-study-early-results.html This was a one year study conducted on adults, imagine the differences if one of them had been born and raised in a low g environment. Born and raised in a zero g environment would be if it's even possible
Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Mar 25, 2017 |
|
|
#
¿
Mar 25, 2017 18:40
|
|
|
I think being raised at 1g and then living on Mars would have health advantages that outweigh the disadvantages
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 25, 2017 23:00
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 29, 2024 10:24 |
|
Big Mean Jerk posted:Not that Star Helix is a shining beacon of integrity, but they could have just been wearing the Star Helix uniforms as a pretense for boarding ships. Still a significant indication of societal breakdown
|
|
|
#
¿
Mar 26, 2017 09:49
|
|