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enraged_camel posted:Not sure I agree about Holden. You say he always does the right thing, but he was about to execute the remaining proto scientist just like Miller executed the lead scientist. And he gave Miller a really hard time about doing that, so he knows it's a lovely thing to do. But he was going to do it anyway, and would have if Dawes had not gotten to the guy first. The problem is that the source material is on par with an ambitious 14 year olds creative writing project. The characters exist to serve the plot in the most hamfisted ways. They're dumb when the plot needs them to be oblivious, and brilliant when the plot needs them to find a resolution. You have characters claiming the moral high ground and berating someone who used violence to solve a problem in a desperate moment. Then two pages later they themselves do something out of stupidity and selfishness that results in the death of thousands but that's okay just because. Season one worked because someone up the food chain of the show recognized that the books were a kernel of a neat idea buried under a pile of terrible writing, and they did a great job salvaging the bits that worked. I don't know if that person quit or just gave up, but either way there's a lot of crap creeping it's way into season two that should have never made the transition from the page.
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Lord Hydronium posted:Characters acting in a way inconsistent with values they preach to others? Whoa now, no one would ever do that, that must be some bad writing. No it's blatantly in service to the plot. It's so over done it starts to feel like maybe it's a heavy handed attempt to illustrate how people justify their actions on a personal sliding scale, but six books in and it becomes pretty clear that it's just a case of the characters being whoever the author needs to deflect the plot in the desired direction. The characters being consistent is a illusion created by them being consistently inconsistent. Lord Frankenstyle fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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