Phy posted:

Any Texans - is Cas Anvar's Mariner Valley drawl for Alex anything like a real Texas accent or does he sound like some goob trying to imitate Mission Control? Because honestly that's what I pictured the Mariner accent as anyway.

FuriousxGeorge posted:

I have to imagine that as an alcoholic Earther I would have a really frustrating time if I went up into the belt.

Eiba posted:

The diagram was really interesting.

(I'm spoiling this 'cause I'm a dirty book reader erring on the side of caution, but I'm only pointing out what we saw in the show already without offering any explanation) The orbital path of Eros changed at a pretty sharp angle. It's veered inward, and doesn't appear to be on a circular orbit anymore. That would indeed take a (pretty massive) acceleration, but we were watching the whole time from Miller's perspective... and he wasn't jerked or slammed into anything. There were no signs of acceleration.

Platystemon posted:

Holden had some major character development, putting down some more‐or‐less innocent people like dogs.

That kid was him once.

Evernoob posted:

Ye well sorry, that's maybe one aspect they had to change a bit.
They couldn't find a 6'3 and 250+ pounds of musclular polynesian actress.
They had to settle for a little less, and honestly they found a great match.

A few months ago the bookreaders in this very thread were literally in love with the casting, and now many people are judging the character on a few introductionary scenes that even predate the source material.

What they are doing is instead of suddenly introducing a new character and immediately have a lot of stuff happen to her, they introduce the whole crew (with a slight focus on Bobbie) to give her some background and then only later really make her part of the central story.

Books can devote whole chapters on background stories after introducing a new character. This is much harder in TV as the only way to do this properly is flashbacks and origin episodes.

Nihonniboku posted:

Eiba posted:

I think... I think Dawes is a good guy.

He's an antagonist, but I don't think he's been wrong about anything.

The only real criticism of him is that he's power hungry or something, but he seems to pretty responsible and community oriented with his power, so that's not so bad? He's right about Johnson having a more barter/property based kind of logic, while Dawes is working with the whole gift economy mentality of the Belt. I think that Belter mentality of sharing what you can, and ostracizing hoarders is... probably a pretty solid basis for a non-exploitative economy. Johnson doesn't really seem to get that aspect of things intuitively.

Dawes has a more adversarial view of the system than Johnson or Holden, but he's not a dumb belligerent nationalist. He agreed about returning the nukes, even those are really tempting to hold on to as a symbol of power. He realized, no matter how it feels, they're kind of useless in achieving their goals.

So I think I'm actually on Dawes side here. Is there anything terrible about him I'm forgetting?

enraged_camel posted:

But Cortazar isn't even in the books, right? So the incongruence of Holden's behavior can't really be blamed on the books, at least for that particular scene.

(I never read the books so I don't know.)

Baronjutter posted:

Inners don't care about belt people.

NmareBfly posted:

Because now that I think of that just goes to show how much belter babies are valued. Earth babies happen on Earth, Mars babies happen on Mars. Belter nurseries are farms because the 'people' that emerge just more grist for the mill for the inners to chew up and digest. I initially forgot that these are belter kids we're talking about.

Number Ten Cocks posted:

You're into future season territory. You should probably stay away from that stuff.

Toast Museum posted:

Heads up, audiobook people! The new Jefferson Mays recording of Cibola Burn has been released, and people who bought the lovely Erik Davies version from Audible get the new one free. Just re-download the book and you're good to go.

quote:

In early 2002, Abraham met up with George R.R. Martin for dinner. Martin asked him, “So Daniel, how do you feel about a three-way with two old fat guys?” The author wanted Abraham’s help to complete a long-unfinished manuscript.

radical meme posted:

I finally caught up with the season and I have to say that, I love the Chrisjen Avasarala character more and more (get to the loving point) and I'm really enjoying Bobbie Drapper also; Bobbie cramming cucumber finger sandwiches into her mouth like she's never eaten before was some funny poo poo. I like strong female characters and they are two of the best. But, good lord, I was sad to see Joe Miller go.

Has anyone read the novels, are they worth picking up?

counterfeitsaint posted:

How many books are there, and is the series finished?

I assume this chat will devolve into equal parts book chat, and whiny loving book readers making passive aggressive posts about how people don't like bookchat, so I'll be needing something else to read until next season.