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What did Corbyn ask about Brexit?
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Feb 1, 2017 13:21
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HJB posted:The PMQs Zinger of the Week™: May about Corbyn - "He can lead a protest, I'm leading a country." I feel like this needs one of those "not all leadership is good leadership" disclaimers. But then you do periodically see some dense motherfucker going "Say what you like about hitler but he was a good leader!  "
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Feb 1, 2017 13:24
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HJB posted:The PMQs Zinger of the Week™: May about Corbyn - "He can lead a protest, I'm leading a country." that deserved a full on pantomine response
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Feb 1, 2017 13:25
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Pissflaps posted:What did Corbyn ask about Brexit?
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Feb 1, 2017 13:29
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Pissflaps posted:What did Corbyn ask about Brexit? Ctrl+F-ing "brexit" on the BBC's feed: "Jeremy Corbyn is on his feet. He pays a heartfelt tribute to Tam Dalyell, saying his doggedness over issues ranging from the miner''s strike to Iraq made Parliament a better place. He says he recommends the late MP's autobiography - titled The Importance of Being Awkward - and it should be required reading for Brexit Secretary David Davis." So, um, not a lot.
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Feb 1, 2017 13:29
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Great work Jezza.
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Feb 1, 2017 13:41
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HJB posted:The PMQs Zinger of the Week™: May about Corbyn - "He can lead a protest, I'm leading a country." It's a good zinger in isolation but she isn't really is she.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:01
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/news-opinion/derek-hatton-i-now-serious-12531334 Now even Militant-ites are speaking out against Corbyn. This is turning into a big whoops
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Feb 1, 2017 14:03
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Jippa posted:It's a good zinger in isolation but she isn't really is she. She's leaving us over the edge of a cliff. That's leadership. Bad leadership but still.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:03
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Pissflaps posted:Great work Jezza. It's odd. Brexit was supposed to destroy the Tory party. It's actually likely to destroy the Labour party. They've thrown themselves infront of the out of control bus that is Brexit.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:15
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HJB posted:The PMQs Zinger of the Week™: May about Corbyn - "He can lead a protest, I'm leading a country." The BBC immediately described this as a 'body blow' for Labour.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:15
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/feb/01/eu-brexit-deal-city-leaked-report-european-parliament-article-50 How will this affect negotiations? Were the Brexiteers right that the continent was dishonestly mitigating their own exposure to risk in this?
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Feb 1, 2017 14:16
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Rakosi posted:https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/feb/01/eu-brexit-deal-city-leaked-report-european-parliament-article-50 I think it's always been obvious that Brexit is bad for everyone. A bad deal is also bad for everyone.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:18
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Regarde Aduck posted:It's odd. Brexit was supposed to destroy the Tory party. It's actually likely to destroy the Labour party. They've thrown themselves infront of the out of control bus that is Brexit. blair and clinton laid some excellent ground work for their parties to get destroyed
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Feb 1, 2017 14:18
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Pissflaps posted:I think it's always been obvious that Brexit is bad for everyone. A bad deal is also bad for everyone. Yes, but surely it must be conceded that whilst the Brexiteers have been naive in their hope for a great deal for everyone (and lying about monetary savings and the NHS), there has been an ignored weight of dishonesty in the Remainer camp regarding how much more the UK needs the EU than the EU needs the UK (or, namely, the City of London). Personally, I always have and still do take a very dim view of all of the EU politicians that spoke out in vengeful sabre-rattling tones during and since the campaign. If it turns out, after the article 50 negotiation deadline, that it only really had a nominal effect on the UK then I think it would be fair to accuse some politicians of effectively trying to terrorize a nation into membership.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:33
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Pissflaps posted:I think it's always been obvious that Brexit is bad for everyone. A bad deal is also bad for everyone. And the "No deal is better than a bad deal." is utter crap because "no deal" is the "WTO deal" which is a very very bad deal.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:44
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Rakosi posted:Yes, but surely it must be conceded that whilst the Brexiteers have been naive in their hope for a great deal for everyone (and lying about monetary savings and the NHS), there has been an ignored weight of dishonesty in the Remainer camp regarding how much more the UK needs the EU than the EU needs the UK (or, namely, the City of London). Personally, I always have and still do take a very dim view of all of the EU politicians that spoke out in vengeful sabre-rattling tones during and since the campaign. If it turns out, after the article 50 negotiation deadline, that it only really had a nominal effect on the UK then I think it would be fair to accuse some politicians of effectively trying to terrorize a nation into membership. I think you raise some valid points.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:46
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Rakosi posted:, there has been an ignored weight of dishonesty in the Remainer camp regarding how much more the UK needs the EU than the EU needs the UK (or, namely, the City of London). for fucks sake how do you believe that stupid poo poo? it's a larger economy than america, the imbalance is enormous, and against the UK's favour. The City of London loving leaves london if it doesn't get a replacement for it's current passporting schemes. It goes to Paris. The City needs a tax haven inside the EU, and The City, the financial institutions, are not remotely under the control of the British state. They can, and likely will, leave.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:48
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Rakosi posted:Yes, but surely it must be conceded that whilst the Brexiteers have been naive in their hope for a great deal for everyone (and lying about monetary savings and the NHS), there has been an ignored weight of dishonesty in the Remainer camp regarding how much more the UK needs the EU than the EU needs the UK (or, namely, the City of London). Personally, I always have and still do take a very dim view of all of the EU politicians that spoke out in vengeful sabre-rattling tones during and since the campaign. If it turns out, after the article 50 negotiation deadline, that it only really had a nominal effect on the UK then I think it would be fair to accuse some politicians of effectively trying to terrorize a nation into membership. Nobody has really come out of the brexit thing well. It's all depressing as gently caress.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:48
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European economy, 22.8% of nominal global GDP. UK economy, 4.4% It's pretty loving basic mathematics.
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Feb 1, 2017 14:50
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Spangly A posted:European economy, 22.8% of nominal global GDP. UK economy, 4.4% The point rakosi is making is not that the EU needs the UK more than vice versa, but that the dangers to the EU from a disorderly Brexit are real. https://twitter.com/newdawn1997/status/826778788151296000 Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Feb 1, 2017 14:54
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Why are catheters so thick, then? Wouldn't a thinner version be less uncomfortable? Enquiring minds want to know
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Feb 1, 2017 15:03
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Spangly A posted:for fucks sake how do you believe that stupid poo poo? it's a larger economy than america, the imbalance is enormous, and against the UK's favour. The City of London loving leaves london if it doesn't get a replacement for it's current passporting schemes. It goes to Paris. The City needs a tax haven inside the EU, and The City, the financial institutions, are not remotely under the control of the British state. They can, and likely will, leave. It probably won't really. Some banking functions will be moved, but financial centres are sticky and comprised of people that are quite happy where they are. The back office stuff that mostly doesn't happen in central London is much more at risk. There's a lot of markets that operate out of London that EU members states will continue to need unrestricted access to. The City is one area where the UK has a lot more negotiating leverage than most others.
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Feb 1, 2017 15:06
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Zephro posted:Why are catheters so thick, then? Wouldn't a thinner version be less uncomfortable? so you don't mix them up with an oxygen tube and burst someones bladder
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Feb 1, 2017 15:10
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Zephro posted:Why are catheters so thick, then? Wouldn't a thinner version be less uncomfortable? It'd have to have a certain sturdiness to allow it to be rammed up your knob, I imagine
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Feb 1, 2017 15:13
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Zephro posted:Why are catheters so thick, then? Wouldn't a thinner version be less uncomfortable? presumably there's a minimal internal diameter to allow sufficient flow velocity to prevent discomfort, and a minimal corresponding external diameter to allow sufficient thickness to prevent leakage/fragility. You wouldn't wan't a catheter snapping and getting lost inside your tiny little knob e: also too thin and it would probably puncture your urethra
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Feb 1, 2017 15:15
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Apologies if this was posted in the last thread but this has really got me thinking: https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/inside-the-private-chat-rooms-trump-supporters-are-using-to?utm_term=.nfJmmqDBV#.jbANNRjw1 How likely is it that similar groups are targeting UK users? I'm talking about BBC News articles being swarmed with far-right comments minutes after being posted, Twitter users with dubious profiles posting generic pro-Brexit/pro-Trump comments etc. I'm talking about poo poo like this: https://twitter.com/TheCleaner13/status/826462764705181696
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Feb 1, 2017 15:16
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Pencils R Cool posted:How likely is it that similar groups are targeting UK users? 100% likely, plus a shitload of Russian astroturfing. Although there was a study someone posted a few days ago which showed that the British public gets their unmitigated bollocks from the red-top tabloids anyway, so the online cobblers is less effective
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Feb 1, 2017 15:18
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Pencils R Cool posted:Apologies if this was posted in the last thread but this has really got me thinking: There's a near 100% chance they already were.
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Feb 1, 2017 15:18
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peanut- posted:It probably won't really. Some banking functions will be moved, but financial centres are sticky and comprised of people that are quite happy where they are. The back office stuff that mostly doesn't happen in central London is much more at risk. I came across an analysis of this by Paul Krugman last month. To be clear it was written long before Brexit was anything but a fevered dream of handful of Tories and English nationalists. It's been too long for me to find the quote but the gist of it was that the concerns are more about internal banking competition and loss of concentration, rather than access to international services, which is also more or less what the report implies since it doesn't talk about the latter at all. The idea being that there would be major disruption to the financial system as the various EU financial capitals vie to replace London as the center of internal finance, reducing efficiency and causing regulatory issues. The global banking services were always expected to stay in the UK and this is the biggest part of what London does, and their very nature is such that they are accessible to the whole world (things like forex markets and shipping insurance, two things that UK is the global leader in). E: To illustrate the global nature of forex - while around 40% of the trading is done in London, only about 10% of the global turnover is handled by UK based banks (mainly Barclays). UBS and Deutsche each have more turnover than any of the English banks, to suggest that DB would allow a situation where it's mainly continental customers (which is where their money comes from) wouldn't have access to their forex services is preposterous. Not to mention that Barclays is German-owned as well. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Feb 1, 2017 15:26
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https://twitter.com/MattWhittakerRF/status/826701620918546433 Shocking development, inequality goes up during a Tory governments. Who'da thunk it?
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Feb 1, 2017 15:43
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Pencils R Cool posted:Apologies if this was posted in the last thread but this has really got me thinking: If there's one thing I learned from my time with the Scientology protest lot, it's that these people LOVE feeling like massive conspiracy puppet masters. Basically spectralent posted:There's a near 100% chance they already were.
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Feb 1, 2017 15:51
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And while I'm linking to dumb poo poo I've seen on Twitter, UKMT's favourite art critic Jonathan Jones has dropped a solid nugget of gold here. We cannot celebrate revolutionary Russian art – it is brutal propaganda What a wally.
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Feb 1, 2017 16:07
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peanut- posted:It probably won't really. Some banking functions will be moved, but financial centres are sticky and comprised of people that are quite happy where they are. The back office stuff that mostly doesn't happen in central London is much more at risk. Its more than just leverage for Britain in talks, it also provides an impetus for the EU nations to ensure that its completed as quickly as possible. Hence why various EU countries have asked that talks should have already started as many are very worried about the affect that reducing the options to liquidity for business that access to the London capital markets provide. Spain just last week raising this point, along with Italy and various Eastern European countries have all raised this issue has to be resolved as quick as possible. So its safe to assume an interim banking deal very early on in the BREXIT talks, assuming France doesn't do a France and try and block everything.
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Feb 1, 2017 16:11
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Pencils R Cool posted:How likely is it that similar groups are targeting UK users? Not just similar groups, but anyone with a bankroll, half a brain as to the situation and a motive is trying their hand right now. Anything from false amazon reviews to providing cheerleaders for bombing raids. 2017: Never read the comments.
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Feb 1, 2017 16:11
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forkboy84 posted:And while I'm linking to dumb poo poo I've seen on Twitter, UKMT's favourite art critic Jonathan Jones has dropped a solid nugget of gold here.
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Feb 1, 2017 16:12
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ukle posted:Its more than just leverage for Britain in talks, it also provides an impetus for the EU nations to ensure that its completed as quickly as possible. Hence why various EU countries have asked that talks should have already started as many are very worried about the affect that reducing the options to liquidity for business that access to the London capital markets provide. Spain just last week raising this point, along with Italy and various Eastern European countries have all raised this issue has to be resolved as quick as possible. So its safe to assume an interim banking deal very early on in the BREXIT talks, assuming France doesn't do a France and try and block everything. It uhh, the article doesn't say anything about reducing the options to liquidity for business that access to the London capital markets provide. The relevant bit (b/c it's paywalled), the rest is about Gibraltar and whatnot: quote:Arguing that the EU was not aiming to take business from the London financial centre, he added: “What we want is to preserve the integrity of the internal market and preserve the preferential status of those countries that are inside the union. But that does not mean weakening the City.”
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Feb 1, 2017 16:28
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"Despite an economic meltdown rightwing populists failed to gain a foothold in [Spain]. Why?" Because the meltdown was caused very directly by the right lol
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Feb 1, 2017 16:32
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https://twitter.com/duncanrobinson/status/826809483200495616
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Feb 1, 2017 16:41
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HJB posted:The PMQs Zinger of the Week™: May about Corbyn - "He can lead a protest, I'm leading a country." Doesn't even bother with the loving pretense of being a servant of the public trust.
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