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Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


The constantly bungling leader of the Labour Party has bungled one of the most challenging political events the country has faced in decades? who would have thought?

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Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


The SWP is garbage and Owen Jones is doing the right thing

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Here is a thought: maybe Labour should have a leader who appeals to the British electorate and not just party members?

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Pissflaps posted:

More nuanced: the few people who he appeals to joined he Labour Party to support him in his leadership elections. They don't necessarily support or vote for the Labour Party.
it certainly is more nuanced, i think its essential that the next Labour leader disregards the coalition of Lib Dem, SNP, and Green voters who have never supported Labour but paid £3 to vote for some old socialist jam man from Islington and shows them the door asap

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Following the election last year really made me appreciate our political system, even if it can be a bit poo poo at times

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Stewart Lee is a good lad and I dont blame him for joining a pro remain party when his own MP failed to represent the wishes of their constituency because she had too many G&TS

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Glad to see that Corbyns unique brand of straight talking, honest politics has had another astonishing success

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


just caught up with the thread and loving lol at the people thinking that Labour losing byelections is fine

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


I hope everyone is looking forward to the byelection results

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Pissflaps posted:

It's just spin. Labour can't have lost it.

We shall see Pissflaps, we shall see

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


I just want to say that regardless of whatever the results are, nothing matters

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Parliament is good actually and a lot of good can come from it, but only if you win!

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Well at least Paul Nuttall of the ukips isnt an mp, just gotta wait for Copeland now

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


forkboy84 posted:

Stop being a loving pedant. The exact year doesn't matter, the PM doesn't matter, the fact that the post war consensus (which only came about because of rather extraordinary circumstances) ended at some point before I was born sort of seems the major point. Quite a lot has changed in the past 40 years, in the media, in politics, in attitudes, etc.

If the financial crisis wasn't an end point for our current mess then I simply do not believe that the sort of change I want to see cannot be achieved by Westminster in the current atmosphere. Corbyn was a good chance for giving it a go but, as much as Corbyn has done a pish job at articulating the desperate need for socialism, even if he was as smooth as Blair in his peak it'd be an overwhelmingly difficult job, as good as impossible.

nice meltdown

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


https://twitter.com/alexGspence/status/834952404885876737

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


bit of a mixed night overall

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Fans posted:

Clive does not have the support to run it won't be him. It really should be a woman if they're serious about beating him

Liz Kendall could have another go maybe?

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011



:eyepop: thats really something

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


forkboy84 posted:

Early twenties, maybe. For someone born in 1990 it'll be one of the first political events they remember, and was a formative experience for an awful lot of people who are still young in political terms (which is to say under 35). Even if you were 5 at the time of the invasion and all the protests, you were old enough to experience a lot of the gory consequences of the war, there's not a tiny chance you knew someone who served over there in the 8 years our forces were over there.

Also "it was sad or whatever" loving hell.

what you have said is all valid but there isnt actually much evidence to suggest that the invasion of Iraq resulted in disillusioned young peoples turning away from politics or whatever http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/politics/2013/02/18/the-invasion-of-iraq-did-many-things-putting-young-people-off-politics-wasnt-one-of-them/

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


i have only ever voted labour in a (((safe))) tory seat, i am ideologically pure

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Jezza Corbyn has had a rough week so i hope he takes some time over the weekend to just sit back and relax, hell, he has earned it !

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Tony Blair was a bit of a scoundrel but you have to hand it to him, he knew how to beat tories

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


"we're gonna win win win, you're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say "Mr Prime Minister please we dont want to win anymore its too much winning we cant take it anymore" - Tony Blair

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


the good people of Scotland just want to break away from the tyranny of (((Westminster))) *wink wink*

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


its amazing how what is likely to the biggest political event of our lifetime doesn't inspire the jam man, its like he is not that fussed about leaving the EU or something

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


its all well and good to scoff about how terrorist attacks are actually a very rare occurrence or whatever but counter terrorism and defence are real issues that, come the election, the tories will give Corbyn an absolute hammering over

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


in 2020 the tories will paint corbyn as being a terrorist sympathiser who is weak on defence, and hell, it will work like a charm

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Big Tone and Gordon "Son of the Manse" Brown should reconcile and return to save the labour party from itself

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Tony Blair had some good ideas i think

Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011



can you name a more iconic duo?

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Comrade Cheggorsky
Aug 20, 2011


Pissflaps posted:

Speaking of Tory former prime minister's, John Major is better at challenging the Tories than Labour

https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/836275766715367424

John Major good?

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