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quote:"The "as long as we beat the English" mentality needs to stop." I will not tolerate such defeatism!
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Fans posted:Hating the English is part of the Welsh National Character. Like how hating themselves is part of the English National Character. Truly it brings us together in these troubled times
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Feb 10, 2017 01:26
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The political power of appearing decisive even if all your decisions are terrible
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Feb 10, 2017 11:06
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Any anointed successor is going to have to contend with accusations of being a puppet for shadowy master Corbyn, a first term parliamentarian especially - the act of attempting to select a clear successor will be enough to rile people up. Lewis might have a chance in a leadership contest but I think his repeated loud support for a "progressive alliance" and support for an electoral pact with the Lib Dems and SNP could trip him up - still think Labour are a bit off from endorsing that
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Feb 10, 2017 12:59
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big scary monsters posted:What's with all the talk of Clive Lewis challenging Corbyn, I thought there couldn't be another leadership competition until September? If there's to be an election any time soon it would have to be because Corbyn stepped down, in which case I don't suppose he would be in the running any more. I don't think its likely, I'm thinking more post-GE with Corbyn stepping aside and the ensuing ruck. A couple of years on the back benches might add some steel to Lewis. The mythical Jarvis run could also happen, who I also found out recently has submitted multiple written questions challenging legacy investigations in Northern Ireland in the last few weeks
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Feb 10, 2017 13:32
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hakimashou posted:Civilization itself was humiliated on Election Day. The light of the world has dimmed We are number one but every one keeps voting for right wingers
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Feb 10, 2017 14:13
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I heat Jeremy Corbyn burns all paper money cos he hates the queen
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Feb 10, 2017 16:27
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Jeza posted:Petition to give Wales more vowels I think you'll find they voted against the eu so they'll just have to make do with what vowels they have left
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Feb 11, 2017 19:16
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Prince John posted:Isn't the convention for members of the shadow cabinet to be booted out for breaking the whip, which has happened? He's only letting people who were outside the shadow cabinet off with the written warning, because they weren't part of the decision making process and therefore not bound by collective responsibility. Letting whips who broke a triple line whip off with a warning is pretty unconventional
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Feb 12, 2017 00:30
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Fangz posted:https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/830701303026167808 The fact they've styled their targeted anti-UKIP leaflet like a tabloid is both grimly hilarious and darkly genius
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Feb 12, 2017 15:52
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TinTower posted:My only criticism of Rayner is that she tried to pull the "university of life" card without any sense of irony. I always said Channel 5 was the beginning of the end times
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Feb 12, 2017 22:36
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Registration for the NI election closes on Tuesday just to remind anyone Also the leader of the UUP said a thing today which is pretty bold https://twitter.com/bbcnewsline/status/830832069328662529 He stopped short from calling on UUP voters to transfer to the SDLP, a nationalist party, but signalling that he would rather vote for the SDLP to ensure a change in government than for other Unionist parties is a pretty brave move which puts his neck out a bit. Nesbitt is from the broadly "liberal unionist" wing of the party who has tried to meld a softening of language on social issues with appeasing the right-wing conservative factions of the party - he abstained on the last vote on same-sex marriage (the only member of his party to do so, only one UUP MLA voted in favour) after describing those who dogmatically oppose it as being on "the wrong side of history" and was one of only three UUP MLA's to support the legalization of abortion for cases where the foetus cannot survive outside the womb. At the same time though he did pull the party out of government in protest to a statements made by the chief constable linking members of the IRA to a murder a while back, though this was largely seen as a telegraphed move to shift the party into the newly created official opposition to position themselves more aggressively against the DUP to reverse a long running electoral decline and bolster the UUP's "tough on shinners" credentials. The last assembly elections for the UUP where a bit of a damp squib, most commentators expected the UUP to see greater vote swings based on their new strategy but they largely didn't materialize (possibly cause they didn't run enough candidates). Since the last assembly election the SDLP also entered opposition and Nesbitt has moved to form a kind of coalition in waiting with them, going as far as to invite the SDLP leader to the UUP's annual conference and declare that if you "Vote me, you get Colum [Eastwood, leader of the SDLP]". Even mildly encouraging transferring to a nationalist party is still a pretty bold step - Colum Eastwood was cagey when asked if he would reciprocate and evaded giving a definitive answer. It's possible this comment could backfire horribly on Nesbitt if it puts off traditional unionist voters drifting from the DUP or makes candidates "transfer toxic" for voters who may have gone DUP 1 but thrown a lower preference to the UUP out of general unionist solidarity. If the election doesn't go his way he may be on the chopping block.
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Feb 13, 2017 00:36
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TomViolence posted:jfc who even decided byelections were these massively significant make-or-break moments in the first place? At best, like polls they're a barometer of prevailing public opinion which could well be completely different at the next GE. The whole press narrative about labour seems to hold them to an entirely arbitrary standard and level of scrutiny that no other political party nationwide is held to. They're snap elections that test the public mood on a small scale. Failing to hold a seat indicates something is shifting. Goldsmith losing was a big deal. The prospect of Labour losing is arguably a bigger deal because the opposition should not lose byelections
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Feb 14, 2017 20:59
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I heard Jeremy Corbyn hates his family and all families and wants to destroy our way of life and take children away from their parents
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Feb 16, 2017 02:16
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hakimashou posted:He did divorce his wife so she couldn't send their kid to a good school though didn't he? I'm almost certain I read about it on here. So your problem is that he actually translates his opposition to selective education into personal action
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Feb 16, 2017 02:22
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"Policies are all well and good but really are they that important? Please vote for me"
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Feb 16, 2017 02:23
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Clearly a politician that doesn't believe in one rule for the general public and another rule for them is a worrying sign of ideological rigidity and no better than Stalin
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Feb 16, 2017 02:28
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I don't think you understand the debate on selective education
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Feb 16, 2017 02:32
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Cerv posted:Remember even Diane Abbott sent her kids to private school. You're going to get awfully lonely up there on your high horse taking such a hardline against these things I don't think theres anything massively wrong with someone choosing to send their kid to a grammar or private school (as long as its not "my child shall not socialise with the labouring classes"). I also don't think choosing to send your child to a comprehensive when they could have gone to a grammar is wrong
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Feb 16, 2017 11:01
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I'm ukosian
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Feb 16, 2017 13:38
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Fangz posted:Do many people in NI consider themselves Northern Irish, and not either British or Irish, though? About 20% self identified as Northern Irish in the last census as their primary nationality but isn't necessarily mutually exclusive with being simultaneously Irish or British
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Feb 16, 2017 14:14
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Baron Corbyn posted:Scottish bank notes got me enough suspicious looks whenever I'd try to pay with them in Wales after returning from York. I had no idea NI bank notes were a thing. Danske bank bought out one of the regional banks not that long ago and now if I go to England and give someone danske bank branded sterling they thing I'm up to something This is why I horde English notes even if the cold dead eyes of queen haunt my dreams
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Feb 16, 2017 14:49
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We did plastic fivers first! And they where see through!
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Feb 16, 2017 14:50
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legal tender fraud: its illegal to use to legal tender
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Feb 17, 2017 02:13
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Undead Hippo posted:The EU referendum was unique amongst all of those. There was a political killing, a massive spike in hate crimes and a series of attacks on institutions like the courts. It is a terrifying time, completely without precedent within the existing body of British politics. The 1973 Northern Ireland sovereignty referendum saw a spike in violence, political killings and a literal attack on the old bailey 
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Feb 17, 2017 16:10
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Missed the news that Simon Fletcher has stood down. Losing your director of campaigns who's meant to be directing election strategy a week out from two byelections is, uh, bad
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Feb 18, 2017 17:50
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Pochoclo posted:Most of Europe is white as gently caress though so it kind of begs the question, are the racist brexiteers going to be happy once they realise that most of the immigrants they didn't want actually come from outside the EU? That's why the Tory's have specifically tied cutting student visas to reduce non-EU migration into their Brexit immigration control plans
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Feb 19, 2017 16:34
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May will just go off to Brussels and come back in two years and declare that hard brexit is the only option as the uncaring Eurocrats refuse to listen to the reasonable demands of the British people and if you say otherwise you're lying because you weren't spending late nights at the negotiating table listening to johnny Frenchman demand Britain straightens its bananas and make German the official language to be allowed to even look at euro
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Feb 21, 2017 11:32
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Jose posted:imagine if we had PR and the major parties could split I think the Tories like tradition far too much to have a proper split
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Feb 21, 2017 16:55
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By-elections turnouts are usually pants and rarely go over 45% - when its a seat held by Labour since the 50's with one of the lowest turnouts at the last general election you're not going to animate many people to come out and keep labour in as it's a foregone conclusion for many. If the weathers poor I'd be surprised if the turnout goes over the mid-30 mark
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Feb 23, 2017 13:12
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There is a simple test to decide if someone is English and that's if they feel disappointed or any negative emotions when England loses the world cup
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Feb 23, 2017 20:12
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JFairfax posted:monster raving looney party said parliament should be on wheels and move around the country. reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lozEUcjWByo
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Feb 23, 2017 22:16
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JFairfax posted:ironically there are probably more non-white catholics than white catholics have you actually ever met a catholic in real life
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Feb 23, 2017 22:21
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Ah but you see those are the good forrins because they know their place and love the little baby Jesus
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Feb 23, 2017 22:31
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Private Eye posted:And in my last Dimbley said post. He just said that you can't abolish private schools because it's against a UN convention? Does anyone know about this? Gonna say it's a reference to Article 13.3 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) quote:The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to choose for their children schools, other than those established by the public authorities, which conform to such minimum educational standards as may be laid down or approved by the State and to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions.
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Feb 24, 2017 00:59
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Paxman posted:Maybe that's a stretch, but if you do see it this way then it's more than 40 years since the main opposition party managed to lose a seat it was defending in a by-election. You have to go back to the 1880s or something. As per the Guardian live blog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Govan_by-election,_1988
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Feb 24, 2017 01:10
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Oh never mind, lost to the government
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Feb 24, 2017 01:12
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Tesseraction posted:Copeland was a lovely result in a perfect storm of reasons for it to go badly. A cynical person might think that Reed, who hated Corbyn, was banking on that. I did think after the leadership challenge failed the next step was forcing a couple of by elections, though I expected the move to come from older MPs nearing retirement age - either way with the boundary changes coming up it seemed possible. Though complaining about "sabotaging Corbyn by letting an election happen" puts you in a weird position
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Feb 24, 2017 13:00
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There's going to be a probe into referendum spending. The DUP has slipped out an announcement that they received half a million pounds from the Constitutional Research Council headed by Scottish Tory Richard Cook, about half of which was spent on a advertising campaign in the Metro. As in the London paper. Which doesn't circulate in Northern Ireland. Some dodgy shifting around of money there
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Gonzo McFee posted:The Metro is on trains all across Britain. Northern Ireland has special rules for party political donations which means that unlike in the rest of the UK the identity of large donors don't have to be made public (to protect them from security threats). Looks like someone was trying to be sneaky.
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