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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Gonzo McFee posted:

The youfs are going right wing as well.
Yeah I wonder why

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Gonzo McFee posted:

They got just over 38%. 46.8% if you add the SNP and the Greens.
OK so it's 47% vs 50ish% because the DUP/UUP will shill for anyone with money and SF don't care.

Seems very possible to fix with a strong message, especially when the current government is actually a complete shambles and has already failed on a number of initiatives.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Kokoro Wish posted:

Yes it's in the platform. Right of first refusal for workers to purchase.
Where can I view the platform, because you can't on the website which simultaneously talks up Labour membership and also seriously diminishes its history in government for some reason

http://www.labour.org.uk/pages/what-is-the-labour-party

"Labour has only been in government for four short periods of the 20th century."

(Which is not even true and tippexes out the fact Labour has been in power longer this millennium than anyone else)

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Spangly A posted:

To agree with last (and respond to Miftan from last night), the last time western europe even approached solidarity was after ww2.
That's just not even true, western europe came together to help out the Iberian peninsula after the military regimes hosed off by accelerating their entry into the EEC and providing massive amounts of relief for its people.

The last couple of years has seen a failure of European politicians to get serious about helping the poor, sure. But let's put it this way, Jo Cox' untimely death didn't lead to the end of mental health cuts.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Are Labour's strategists too stupid to realise that things being "rigged" or "FAKE NEWS" sound exactly like they've been cadged from the American right to the British ear or do they just not care?

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Pissflaps posted:

Corbyn's weekly meeting with Labour MPs has been cancelled as he's taking the day off because he worked over the weekend.
Is this a joke

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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and i must meme posted:

why are so many people right wing anyway?
The basic difference between the right and left as explained quite concisely by Stewart Lee is that the right believes the poor deserve to be poor and the rich deserve to be rich, and the left believe the opposite. Plenty of people who don't begrudge their management earning more than them out there if they think they have a shot at it themselves.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Jose posted:

i don't believe stewart lee has ever explained concisely
Sometimes he accidentally isn't joking, and does.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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lol

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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A voice to represent them... nowhere... because they aren't elected to positions of responsibility...

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Jose posted:

what are the odds that Hunt will actually turn up to answer the urgent question in commons?
To be fair he might be taking the day off due to working at the weekend.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Darth Walrus posted:

In other words, if you simply want to pick the winning side without regard for policy, why not just vote Conservative?
Because they aren't the same policies by a long stretch, and the 90 or so % of (elected, mind you) MPs who no-confidence'd Corbyn know that just as much as they know he's poison for the party.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Jose posted:

its a shame they all are as well. what a miserable state the PLP is in
I don't disagree, but they're not Tories.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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gently caress tess.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Dead Goon posted:

Big Tone should gently caress off to Iraq or Afghanistan or Syria
How soon his impeccable record as Middle East Peace Envoy is forgotten :(

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:

can you name a more iconic duo?
Hull/Emu

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Guavanaut posted:

Give a man a fishing trawler and he can't look after it on his own.
John Galt could, imo

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
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Carecat posted:

How do we employ 10,000 people between MI5 and GCHQ? That's nearly half the number of the Pentagon which has an enormous military and bloated military spending. No wonder it costs us over 1 billion a year.
Maybe it's a 21st century gig economy spying system.

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