Pureauthor posted:The two goofballs in the airship are The Best. Basically every one of Bravely Defaults lovable psychopaths owns.
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I do like how they established Agnes's character. She had an army of attendants looking after her as the Wind Vestal, but she quickly demonstrates she's able to fend for herself. She even tried to shoo Tiz away rather than put him in danger by accepting his help, but he just won't let go of her so she's stuck for the moment.
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Feb 5, 2017 17:28
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Feb 5, 2017 17:42
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What happens if you try to talk to the Adventurer while under fire?
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Feb 5, 2017 22:06
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Yeah, the airship crew are really selling "comedic recurring antagonists". Dunno if they'll actually pull that off given how willing this game is to collapse the ground from under people.
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Feb 6, 2017 00:35
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Are you planning on showing off the more obscure cutscenes? You noted that you're carrying over cutscenes for the Event Viewer, so I assume so, but just wanted to check.
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Feb 6, 2017 08:49
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Glazius posted:Yeah, the airship crew are really selling "comedic recurring antagonists". Dunno if they'll actually pull that off given how willing this game is to collapse the ground from under people. When the earth is crumbling away beneath people's feet I think being on an airship is one of the places that gives you a better chance at longevity. That or some kind of sky temple.
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Feb 6, 2017 10:51
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Elite posted:When the earth is crumbling away beneath people's feet I think being on an airship is one of the places that gives you a better chance at longevity. Till you run out of fuel that is.
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Feb 6, 2017 14:24
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Dartonus posted:Are you planning on showing off the more obscure cutscenes? You noted that you're carrying over cutscenes for the Event Viewer, so I assume so, but just wanted to check. Showing off the writing is my top priority, so yes. Still hashing out the details of when I'll post what, though. Since some cutscenes virtually require starting a Glazius posted:Yeah, the airship crew are really selling "comedic recurring antagonists". Dunno if they'll actually pull that off given how willing this game is to collapse the ground from under people. RIP Til, it never pays to be the relative of a JRPG protagonist. Xander77 posted:What happens if you try to talk to the Adventurer while under fire? Adventurer is a living save point, so he's usually oblivious to plot and gameplay. Greyarc fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Feb 6, 2017 16:27
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Blademaster_Aio posted:Till you run out of fuel that is. Still gives you the edge over the place you last refuelled from.
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Feb 7, 2017 00:39
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DoubleNegative posted:Hell yeah, a Bravely Default thread. I'm definitely gonna be following this thread, because this game is pretty good. Except when it's not, but even then it's still rad. Agreed. I'm probably one of the few that liked Second more, but more on that topic when we get to that LP. Hopefully there is a Bravely Second LP.  I hope getting all of the cutscenes doesn't wear you out, OP. It took me about six or so runs through the game to unlock all of then,m, and by that point I didn't even want to look at the game anymore.
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Feb 7, 2017 04:11
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Agreed. I'm probably one of the few that liked Second more, but more on that topic when we get to that LP. I haven't actually played Bravely Second. As for getting cutscenes, having story to analyze/criticize is about the best bait I could have for myself. I have Strong Feelings on this game which likely haven't come through because I don't want my commentary to drown out the game itself.
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Feb 7, 2017 06:37
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Hopefully there is a Bravely Second LP. I may try my hand at a Bravely Second LP after this one concludes if Greyarc doesn't do one, I'm currently trying to finish its journal and event viewer. Dartonus fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Feb 7, 2017 06:52
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Greyarc posted:I haven't actually played Bravely Second. It's a pretty decent sequel. The story is a bit weaker IMO, but it's not horrible by any stretch.
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Feb 7, 2017 06:55
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Entry 6: Tiz Finds the Plot  Yes, lovely. Though I'll grant the boy does handle himself well. I'm less bored than I was a moment ago.  On my way, ma'am! After another quick fight, Tiz and Agnès keep running.    Whaaat!? We're spent? Already? Hmph. Isn't that always the way when you're all passion and no finesse...? The great Barras Lehr, quickest cannon in Eternia.The writers/translators must've done this entire segment with a permanent eyebrow waggle. Ha ha ha ha! The two deadliest guns ever made are still right here! Where steel fails, muscle never falters! Yessir! Third time is not the charm for these fellows.  The second type of Sky Knight fought here. Poison doesn't wear off after combat, so having an antidote or two is handy.  Like our airship? You're the only one who can steer this boat, you dumb ox. Holly Whyte! Must you dash all of my dreams!? ...Fine, you go get her, then. Me? Go crawling down in the dirt like a filthy henchman? In these white robes? Please. All of my dreams, Holly Whyte. As soon as the duo leave, a new feature is introduced. For those familiar with Tales games, these are basically skits. For non-Tales players, these are short optional cutscenes between party members using minimal animations. I'll show these off as soon as they pop up.   ...... Are you alright? Are you hurt? They were clearly after me. Why did you not run? Er, it didn't cross my mind I guess... I was a little distracted. But more importantly, are you hurt? ...I am fine. You...you have my thanks. But they will be back for me. I'm certain of it. For your own sake, it is best our paths diverged here. But...there's only one road back to town. ......Agnès zips offscreen.  Technically, she's still in our party. But for plot's sake she ran off towards the ravine entrance. Tiz runs after her.  Agnès... Agnès Oblige.   Ahh! A miniature monster! Augh, rude! I am not a miniature monster! I am a cryst-fairy! Fire, water, wind, earth. Four crystals. Four pillars of the world. Vestal of wind? Priestess, bride, and servant to the crystals. A weaver of prayers who ensures their eternal glow. The vestals' rites purify the crystals, warding the world from natural disaster. The crystals reveal the way to the vestals, and the vestals pass that on to the people. They guide the world. And what purpose should bring a vestal here? A week prior, at the same time the ground parted here, the Crystal of Wind was consumed by an unnatural darkness. The crystals are the source of all life and all energy in the world. Our lands, our seas, and all that inhabit them exist through the crystals' bounty. They sustain us. But a foul corruption has overtaken them. The wind lies still, and the oceans rot. Fire runs wild, and the earth, well... I had to see the chasm for myself. What is it? What caused the ground to fall? ...I do not know. But I do know how to unmake it and stop the coming dark. I must hurry back to Ancheim.  Pause.  Maybe Tiz was taking a minute to soak all that in. But we aren't done yet.  ...... Hear me out. This isn't the place to go charging on alone. The crags are dark even by day. It's always been a nest for monsters. Airy, are you truly certain this boy is the miracle bringer? Absolutely! Right time, right place; he's your miracle man. I'd bet my wings on it! He saved your life, didn't he? Just like my prediction said he would! I'd call that pretty darn miraculous. Yes, but... Er...Mr. Tiz, was it? Just Tiz is fine. Tiz, then. Was it you that my prayer reached? I don't know about "reached," but I heard you say it, anyway. He's the sole survivor of a village swallowed up whole. How much more miracle do you need? That was no miracle... There was nothing miraculous about it...! My family is gone. All my friends. Everyone... That was no miracle... ......A short ways further down the ravine:  I will do what only I am able: purify the crystals and release them from the darkness. Once this blight has been purged from all four of the world's crystals, order will be restored. Vestals have been pouring their prayers into the crystals for generations. Agnès is going to release all that at once!  Agnès, please. Let me help you. ...My task is not your concern. It is my concern. The chasm, it just swallowed up my village. My family. My friends. I lived the same routine all my life, and that was just stolen from me in an instant. Please. You're... You're a light. My ray of hope! And I want to help. ...I cannot accept. This burden is mine alone, and alone is how I'll see it done. But why? Please! I shall see you back to the city, and there our paths will part. You are not meant to carry this load.  (if a party chat screenshot has that plain papery background, I'm pulling it from the event viewer, not mid-game) ......I truly appreciate your desire to help. But... ...... Do you intend to just leave your village like this? No! Of course not. I'll rebuild it, someday. ...... I am wanted by the duchy. Eternian assassins may lurk in any shadow, at any time. What's more, I must leave this place at once to purify the crystals. If something were to befall you, who would be left to put your village to rights again? I'll rebuild it... I will. You don't have to tell me I'm the only one who can. Then surely it's best you stayed and-- But Norende will never be whole again until that chasm is gone. And here I meet you, the one person who knows how to make that happen. It seems the obvious thing to do is help you, keep you safe, and solve this thing together. Yes, but how do you propose-- I don't know yet. First, the king needs to know what's happened. ......After hashing all that out, the party exits the cave.   Ah, this? It was given to me by someone...special. It's something of a lucky charm. ......That pendant's shown up quite prominently before.  Now that we have the fairy Airy with us, she occupies the lower half of the menu screen, letting us know about the next story objective. The four-gem contraption in the center is connected to Airy as well, though there's no explanation for it yet.  Airy's on the touchscreen, so a nice addition is that she turns to look towards your touch.  Let's head into Caldisla during nighttime.  There are no townspeople out, but the city does look very warm and welcoming. But let's check back during daytime.  The ladykiller from the opening movie is stranger than ever. He obviously knows more than he's letting on, but for now he doesn't have much interest in us.    If we were stronger, the captain would be free to go fight the Eternians off... There's only one competent soldier in the entire kingdom. This doesn't seem safe. Next: Agnès makes a tough decision and Norende is a realm reborn. -- Event Viewer Main Scenario: The Sky Knights: Second Wave The Sky Knights: Third Wave The Sky Knights Withdraw The Vestal's Quest Unmaking the Chasm A Lovely Pendant Party Chat: A Common Destination The Miracle Man Rebuilding a Village quote:
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Feb 7, 2017 10:21
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One thing about this game that leaves me both impressed and a little frustrated: There's an encyclopedia page for everything in this game. EVERYTHING. Having said that, I'm actually still playing right now because I got a bit turned off after a certain very confusing part that I'm sure most veterans of the game are aware of. Here's hoping you can establish some semblance of sense from that particular headache.
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Feb 7, 2017 13:19
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Greyarc posted:That pendant's shown up quite prominently before. The intro AR movie is disturbing and confusing as hell, for a lot of reasons. It's the first time the player ever sees Agnes, and she's wearing the same clothes she's dressed in for the following cutscene in which the Wind Crystal gets hosed up. The AR movie can be interpreted to represent Agnes's prayers to the crystal during its final moments, trying to call it back from the brink, which makes it particularly bothersome that she knows all her attendants are injured and dying at that very moment. 
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Feb 7, 2017 14:21
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Heard a fair few things about Bravely Default, so I'll be following the LP. Probably lurking more than posting, though. Just wanted to say that I didn't realize they had punny names until after "Holly Whyte" as a White Mage. That's gonna be a recurring thing, isn't it? 
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Feb 7, 2017 14:40
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Oh my God are you doing this solely through the 3DS screenshot function? Godspeed.
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Feb 7, 2017 14:49
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BlackPersona posted:Heard a fair few things about Bravely Default, so I'll be following the LP. Probably lurking more than posting, though. You have NO idea just how bad it's going to get. Holly Whyte -> Holy White Barras Lehr -> Bear Wrestler Tiz Arrior -> This Warrior Even some of the names that aren't direct puns are punny, like Agnes Oblige feeling "obliged" to do her thing as she said above. Off the cuff, I'd say a good half the names in the game are puns of some sort. Greyarc posted:The writers/translators must've done this entire segment with a permanent eyebrow waggle. This really surprised me when I first played - I was not expecting innuendo that strong out of a Nintendo game. I guess I'm still used to the "CENSOR ALL THE MAYBE OBJECTIONABLE THINGS" mindset that they (apparently?) used to have, like the parrot in Skies of Arcadia: Legends losing the cigar and all the pirates drinking magic stone juice instead of rum. YggiDee posted:Oh my God are you doing this solely through the 3DS screenshot function? Godspeed. If this is true, this makes me cry a little. I still hate the 3DS screenshot function, if only because my SD card slot is a bit dodgy and I hate removing the drat thing. I can't imagine having to do an entire LP like that.
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Feb 7, 2017 15:47
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:This really surprised me when I first played - I was not expecting innuendo that strong out of a Nintendo game. I guess I'm still used to the "CENSOR ALL THE MAYBE OBJECTIONABLE THINGS" mindset that they (apparently?) used to have, like the parrot in Skies of Arcadia: Legends losing the cigar and all the pirates drinking magic stone juice instead of rum. One of the best moments in Earthbound was Everdred's death scene, which straight up made fun of all the censorship being enforced.
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Feb 7, 2017 16:44
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:One of the best moments in Earthbound was Everdred's death scene, which straight up made fun of all the censorship being enforced. During those scenes I mostly got humor out of the whole "oh no i am dying but would you like me to tell you my story again" bit. I should note that I know they used to censor the poo poo out of a lot of things - I just don't know how heavily they're doing it nowadays. From having playing Bravely Default (and Bravely Second, for that matter,) my feeling is "nowhere near as much"
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Feb 7, 2017 16:57
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:I should note that I know they used to censor the poo poo out of a lot of things - I just don't know how heavily they're doing it nowadays. From having playing Bravely Default (and Bravely Second, for that matter,) my feeling is "nowhere near as much" I think I'd call it "the minimum necessary to ensure product success", these days; the only people complaining about it are gigantic man-children, at any rate. Like, I'm pretty sure Nintendo'd get sued if they didn't censor the lolis in the games they localize.
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Feb 7, 2017 17:01
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they removed her vagina bones
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Feb 7, 2017 17:27
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:Barras Lehr -> Bear Wrestler Alternatively, "bare" wrestler, given that he doesn't use any weapons aside from his own fists?
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Feb 7, 2017 17:44
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Alternatively, "bare" wrestler, given that he doesn't use any weapons aside from his own fists? I've seen that one, but I greatly prefer "bear" to "bare" here. I can totally imagine Barras yelling "HEY COME CHALLENGE ME YOU WEAKLING" and tackling a bear that's just walking by and minding its own business.
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Feb 7, 2017 18:04
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Well now I'm imagining Barras wrestling the Ogre Bear from 4HoL. Also, here are some of the best songs up to this point. (Main Theme) [Also plays (starting from 0:32) when you get new job classes.] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoPB7YlkcM (Caldisla) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkR26wkXGlQ (World Map) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgpWhd80ldQ (Random Battles) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfQ0zm065h0 (Dungeon Theme #1) (Arguably the best one.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GmAeOFDKoE (Here come the Villains!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwjb6hDOR00
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Feb 7, 2017 18:10
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:Even some of the names that aren't direct puns are punny, like Agnes Oblige Are you sure about that? (Wikipedia link) Toss me in with the group that's heard a lot about this game but never played it, so I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on the LP.
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Feb 7, 2017 18:36
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Wayne posted:Are you sure about that? Huh, fair enough. And according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_%28name%29, "Agnes" comes from a word for "Holy." So I guess it is one of the punny names.
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Feb 7, 2017 19:24
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Oh yes, Bravely Default! Probably one of my favourite RPGs for the 3DS and one I've actually managed to fully complete outside of the Cutscene Viewer.
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Feb 7, 2017 19:35
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:Holly Whyte -> Holy White   I didn't notice THAT one!
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Feb 7, 2017 21:27
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:I should note that I know they used to censor the poo poo out of a lot of things - I just don't know how heavily they're doing it nowadays. From having playing Bravely Default (and Bravely Second, for that matter,) my feeling is "nowhere near as much"
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Feb 7, 2017 21:36
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BlackPersona posted:
It's one of those things where once you see the first one, you can't help but look for it in other names. One of the best ones waits 'til towards the endgame, too - I'll try to mention it when it's relevant and decipherable.
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theshim posted:they removed her vagina bones Lucky I looked at the Tokyo Mirage Sessions thread or I'd be incredibly confused. Ugh, I forgot about the outfits debacle for this game. More like I must've forced it out of my mind... If it gets out of hand, I will stick in a rule limiting censorship talk. The topic of censorship's interesting, but keep it casual and don't be a creep, folks. Greyarc fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Greyarc posted:Lucky I looked at the Tokyo Mirage Sessions thread or I'd be incredibly confused. Ugh, I forgot about the outfits debacle for this game. More like I must've forced it out of my mind... Huh - I thought "vagina bones" was just a  non-sequitur until you said something there. Apparently (after looking them up,) they refer to the creases (the 'V') where the hips meet the lower torso. Considering "bones" is an animation term, I can see how the term came about - anatomically incorrect as it is. It's honestly one of those things that I just chalked up to the cartoony style of the characters - it'd almost look wrong to have them.  There's only one place (IMO) where the censorship of the game is jarring to me, but I'll mention it when it comes up.
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It's always great when you meet someone who becomes a UI element. I suppose really only a dual-screen system could reasonably pull that off though.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Also, here are some of the best songs up to this point. Also known as "basically every song we've seen so far" This has what's probably my favorite soundtrack of any game released in at least the past decade. Around the time of its release in Japan, Revo performed an arena-sized concert to promote the game which included special guests Motoi Sakuraba (Star Ocean, Tales, Golden Sun, etc) and Marty Friedman (Megadeth). A video of it hit Youtube, and that alone sold me on this game. The full concert is no longer up due to copyright claims, but you can still find bits and pieces. Some of the songs hint heavily at future plot/characters, so be aware of that if you go looking.
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Feb 8, 2017 09:54
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That ladykiller in the town and intro cutscene that is clearly going to join the party is the best character in the game it's not even close
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Feb 8, 2017 17:54
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Blind Duke posted:That ladykiller in the town and intro cutscene that is clearly going to join the party is the best character in the game There's at least one better character.  Although I think it is close.
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Every character is the best character.
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