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Rangpur posted:Anyway, I partially lied before. A Thief with a bow is a great source of damage... but Ranger is even better. The skill sets compliment each other nicely, too. Sword Mage is another good secondary, since it turns out their ability works with every weapon. You can do disgusting things when you combine elemental and species weaknesses. Ranger-Spell fencer is an awesome combo Also, again, they aged up Artemia, but come on, there is no way she's 17. She's a kid.
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# ¿ May 9, 2017 05:47 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 00:32 |
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I bet the kids know how to manipulate the encounter gauge.
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# ¿ May 16, 2017 07:48 |
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The ranger headgear makes all the dramatic scenes in the game look silly.
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# ¿ May 18, 2017 11:07 |
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For a game with such a cutesy artstyle, it has a lot of super dark moments. And super creepy moments.
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# ¿ May 20, 2017 02:32 |
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But nobody said they disliked it? It is really creepy and has some really uncomfortable scenes though.
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# ¿ May 20, 2017 04:25 |
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Well, for some of them, like merchant hat, you really do want them to suffer. For the rest of them though, there wasn't anything stopping them from writing in a few lines that we spared them. But nevermind. I'll just let the story speak for itself. And I think bravely second was much better about this. Anyway, Einheria was good, except her sisters had already gone off the deep end.
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# ¿ May 21, 2017 00:11 |
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Patter Song posted:I'm pretty sure the game was banking on you hunting down all or nearly all of the asterisks. Sure, you don't have to, but the quests aren't hidden, they have big blue "go here" exclamation points on the map and passing up the jobs is not a good idea, especially if it's your first time through and you don't go in thinking "eh, I don't really need Time Mage" or whatever. If you only do the plot stuff, the game becomes super boring. It's not very interesting to mash X to purify crystal. And we even have to fight a random boss monster which is also boring. We only have the wind crystal for now. We're close to the water crystal and there are 2 more. Plus why would you not want to get extra jobs? They call them sidequests but I consider them part of the main game because without them the game would be boring.
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# ¿ May 23, 2017 00:16 |
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This is why handling drugs is a bad idea. Plane bird is pretty cool. You can say, it blows you away!
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# ¿ May 23, 2017 07:31 |
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I've never looked at the back of the valkyrie outfit. I was seriously missing out, just look at that bizarre alien thing. Haha.
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# ¿ May 26, 2017 10:20 |
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The trek downhill goes in a freaking abyss of terribleness. That one scene with the sage before the flower festival, and this guy alone makes it my least favourite chapter. And obviously nobody can understand that woman. She's gone off the deep end. Can't you people tell. Then again, she was really gone. Trail of broken women is pretty awful aptly put. Throwing this dandy red guy in the rotting ocean will do the world a favour. The world needs less people like him, not more. Blademaster_Aio fucked around with this message at 12:14 on May 27, 2017 |
# ¿ May 27, 2017 08:08 |
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Greyarc posted:Hey, can you cut the Bravely Second mention out of your post? Sorry. If I do mention anything wrong, feel free to point it out, I'll edit it out. Also, I should add, aren't Victor and Victoria still following us from waaaay back when we actually entered the flower festival. So they just watched us kill their allies? Blademaster_Aio fucked around with this message at 12:18 on May 27, 2017 |
# ¿ May 27, 2017 12:15 |
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Glazius posted:We, uh. Hey, we can't solve all the world's problems. Besides who knows, maybe now that the Venus sisters are gone maybe the problem will magically fix itself. Or something.
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# ¿ May 27, 2017 12:38 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:DeRosa seems like that kind of guy that comes up in fiction whose idea of hooking up with women involves backhanded compliments and damaging their self-esteem. Pretty much, I guess. But what does it matter? That scene is creepy no matter what. It doesn't make dandy red any less of a lech.
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# ¿ May 28, 2017 04:17 |
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Ugh, die, DeRosa. The world is a better place. What a complete piece of trash. On a gameplay note, DeRosa actually hits pretty hard with his spells. I was never able to make red mage work. On paper, the idea of someone who can use both physical and magic attacks sounds appealing, but actually you're better off sticking to either physical or magic. Using both white and black is useful, but then the issue is that it takes a lot of JP to level up. The red mage does have some nice abilities that work with other classes.
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# ¿ May 31, 2017 06:20 |
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Well, considering DeRosa was able to bribe the Orthodoxy officials, they're definitely not like Agnes. In other words, the only thing Agnes represents is herself. She isn't the face of the actual Orthodoxy, especially since they're greedy enough to accept bribes from slimeballs and watch their country suffer. Of course, we can believe Agnes and her acolytes are nice people, but after reading the red reports, you can't say the same for these official guys. ...Florem doesn't seem to a pleasant place to live in. Also, if you dual wield wands, even your red mage will do good magic damage, but the thing with JP still exists. Basically, you get white mage and black mage earlier, and you'll learn white/black magic level 3 or 4 earlier than you'll learn black and white magic level 3 / 4. Then the whole thing is how getting Job levels gets harder the more your job levels up. But anyway, dual wielding wands gives you very nice magic output - you won't be able to do decent physical damage though. Blademaster_Aio fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jun 1, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2017 04:15 |
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Summoner outfits are nice. The good thing about Bravely Default is that every job brings something to the table. At the very least, you shouldn't knock them till you've unlocked every job. The real problem is you have all these jobs and all these combos but just 4 characters. What to pick, what to choose.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 11:56 |
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I actually really liked the ruins. The puzzle was nice.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2017 09:34 |
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Glazius posted:I guess whatever earth vestal there was went down the sinkhole already? We'll learn the fate of every vestal, and I'm sure Greyarc will explain it to us as we play. Poor Olivia though, we just met and we already ran into this evil stick that's gonna kill us. While the guy next to her goes, "Just so Victoria, just so."
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 02:48 |
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Victoria's hair is larger than her body. She looks strange. She definitely looks odd. But of course, with a name like Victoria F. Stein...
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 05:10 |
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Omobono posted:F. Stein is an obvious enough reference, but I'm not getting what is S. Court a reference to. But it's not like we've seen Victor do anything horrible to Victoria, other than letting her run wild and not teaching her basic things like killing people is wrong. I'm sure we'll learn more about them later. EggsAisle posted:Escort? Since he's always accompanying her and all. This makes sense. MightyPretenders posted:Olivia's barrier was put up after the crystal was corrupted, (but before Rukalsha turned up,) as a stopgap measure to keep things from getting worse. Actually she probably put up the barrier before she fled to safety because of the Bloodrose legion. Maybe the barrier can't prevent the crystals from falling into darkness.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 21:25 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Jeez, I forgot it took forever for Red Mage to get Level 4 Black/White Magic. That's ridiculous. One of the reasons why red magic actually suffers, as opposed to just being a black mage with white magic or a white mage with black magic.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 05:53 |
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Blind Duke posted:When you get BP recovery and black magic Poison, you can give yourself a decent BP engine. Normally it's a spell you can only cast on one target, but the Black Magic capstone ability allows you to cast it on your whole party. A whole party getting +2 BP for the 1 BP spell cast. Victoria will exterminate you! Like she exterminated us after killing Olivia. There are a lot more things you can do for BP batteries. The great thing about this game is that there isn't just one option. A lot of different options are perfectly suited for the situations you face.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 08:19 |
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Commander Keene posted:Yes, but it's the first BP Engine available to the party, IIRC, and the only one available with the classes we have in the LP now. Any others will have to wait a while, IIRC. It requires a really high black mage job level. Well, if you're dedicated enough, you can get it done. But then it's a grind.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 00:00 |
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BioEnchanted posted:I have so much trouble with streetpass because there's noone who lives nearby who randomly carries their DS around or that plays the same games, so even when I go out of my way to keep my DS on and in my pocket nothing happens. I need to let the game take pity of me with free villagers. It's worse in Bravely Second, I don't appear to be getting even the automatic pity-villagers... You get 5 villagers when you update your data. From the save screen.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 07:08 |
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Patter Song posted:If there's one thing I dislike about the game, it's that, while you have the choices of a few optimal playstyles, after a certain point, suboptimal playstyles that might be more fun just become completely unviable. Bravely Default suddenly becomes far less fun if I'm stuck with a party setup where, for example, three of my characters are perpetually keeping my party invulnerable and the fourth one is slowly plinking away at the enemy. It's true. Low level jobs aren't helpful and you need to optimise your characters for some thing. The offensive characters need to be geared towards either magic or physical. You can't be half baked. But at the same time, the ways to break the game are vast. At the end, you'll just be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of options you have.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 10:13 |
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Rangpur posted:Their fixed damage is the most reliable method of dealing with the clones. I'm pretty sure that's how I took them out.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2017 04:36 |
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Agnes is completely down. And the party's morale is at an all time low.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2017 06:47 |
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Regalingualius posted:I still have no idea how the hell Zatz looks like he does, considering he's the only NPC in the game that looks like he's half-rat. Profituer looks almost like a full rat.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 18:36 |
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Well, they were sent to back their sword bearer allies but maybe they also work as mercs or something?Commander Keene posted:No, Profiteur acts like he's full rat. There's a difference. Fine. Then they wanted to make Zatz super unique. So they did.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2017 20:10 |
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Regalingualius posted:It's just weird that they went with that for his design. Because nothing says "trustworthy ally" like "literally looks like a rat". In the world of Bravely Default being evil is super obvious. Zatz hasn't destroyed a nation via drugs, burned random houses and people down, robbed people blind and all. I'm sure he's trustworthy
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2017 20:27 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:So I've started playing Final Fantasy V for the first time in ages and this game is giving me major Bravely Default vibes. Well, in 1 and 3, the early jobs of Bravely Default are all there. 2 did something different, and 4 was the Cecil game I think, which was also different. And 5's jobs are similar to 1 and 3.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2017 21:27 |
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Maybe the volcano produces plenty of magic fantasy stuff for mining. Or maybe the fire crystal has something to do with the mining part.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2017 05:51 |
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Not explaining why is one of the worst things this story does. For if we explain, we will have no plot... or a vastly different one. I mean, they sound like they have a reason to do what they do (Edea's father, and her teacher), but nope, not gonna tell us at all.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 08:59 |
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Quantum Toast posted:I could live with that if they weren't drawing attention to it by berating Edea for not knowing the things they refuse to tell her. Whatever reasons the Eternians and their allies had, some of them definitely needed to take a dirt nap. Like the rat and the red creeper. But now we finally have not evil Eternians! ...except they refuse to explain.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 20:37 |
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At this point, we have seen: Crystal Orthodoxy pros: - Agnes - Darkness of crystals has terrible effect on nature like seas rotting - Pious people are quiet pious people Crystal Orthodoxy cons: - Florem - Bribe accepting authorities And that's all we know. As for Eternia: - Eternian sky knights 2 vs 2 Holly is a sadist, while Ominas just burned his own guy down. Hienkel is probably following orders (he killed Owen though), and Barras died via frontal assault just like he wanted (I'm sure he wanted to do the frontal assault on us). - The Wind area We have the Eternian allies here... or more accurately... --> A sellsword that works for pg (and nothing else matters) --> A jealous king that allied with Eternia just because of anti crystalism and he gives Agnes grief --> A rat merchant who swindles people --> A desert bandit These guys are notably not Eternians, but more like allies. The sellsword's origin and motives beyond money remain a mystery - Florem We get: ---> A creepy pervert who attempted and nearly succeeded in ruining an entire country --> His two subordinates who have gone mad and are spreading drugs The one who hasn't gone mad isn't doing much of anything, really, beyond hunting crystalists, but why is she letting DeRosa get away with what he's doing? And we're now gonna explore this new land. But I'm just saying, the Eternians and their allies (especially after Florem) really aren't portrayed as people you want in charge of anything. Florem opens the can of worms that is corruption in the church, but we really need more information. We don't know anything. But hey, let's wait for the update. We can talk about it all we want, but it won't change Bravely Default's story. Also, everyone seems to think vestals have blinded the world and Edea, judging by what Alternis said, but the only thing blind about Agnes is her sense of direction.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 20:22 |
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I know a certain event following an optional sidequest boss battle has two outcomes depending on the order you do the sidequests in (like how it was in Florem). So I'll assume you'll be showing us all the variants?
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 12:10 |
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Blind Duke posted:Naturally, the Shieldbearers town is surrounded by pieces of oversized armor that shops are built into It's pretty obvious who lives in that one huge mansion on your screen. It even has a yellow mark on the map! It's not like we can go in any other house, for that matter. I'm sure there are other houses somewhere. We can't see them.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2017 18:11 |
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Ringabel was flirting with a gecko lady. Or a lady clinging to the wall. Also, I can't wait for the next sidequest. We need more jobs! Also, Master Kamiizumi actually seems reasonable. What a super shock compared to the rest of them.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2017 20:26 |
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I like Barbarossa. He's pretty cool, for a ghost ship captain.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2017 05:22 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 00:32 |
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Well, no one will miss this piece of garbage when we dispose of him. All for the Asterisk, of course.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2017 09:05 |