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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Solemn Sloth posted:

If the democrats can't manage to win back congress with two years of trump under their belt they should just log off and walk into the ocean.

The Senate is an uphill battle because it's the people who were re-elected alongside Obama's win in 2012, and the House is gerrymandered to hell.

On the other hand Trump is a hell of a target to run against.

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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Daily Mail saying he founded a political club called Fascism Forever! When he was in school. He also chose the 'the illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional etc.' Kissinger quote for his yearbook. Pretty big red flags.

That just means he's a well read scholar etc hurf durf.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

The Senate is an uphill battle because it's the people who were re-elected alongside Obama's win in 2012, and the House is gerrymandered to hell.

On the other hand Trump is a hell of a target to run against.

Yeah I recognise it's a uphill battle but seriously, if not now, when?

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010
Have to admit some satisfaction at watching the most spineless, bootlicking allied government get wrecked by the trump twitter regardless.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Solemn Sloth posted:

Yeah I recognise it's a uphill battle but seriously, if not now, when?

I'm just pessimistic about this.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Have to admit some satisfaction at watching the most spineless, bootlicking allied government get wrecked by the trump twitter regardless.

:yossame:

I don't envy DFAT analysts right now. Do we suck up to the oppressive and corrupt communist regime or the crazy and probably senile fascist.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

:yossame:

I don't envy DFAT analysts right now. Do we suck up to the oppressive and corrupt communist regime or the crazy and probably senile fascist.

As if the mob in charge would even listen to them. Who does the LNP want to cosy up to? Follow the donation trails and personal business interests.

MonoAus
Nov 5, 2012
Perfect opportunity for an Alec Baldwin / Lawrence Mooney collaboration here.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Solemn Sloth posted:

Yeah I recognise it's a uphill battle but seriously, if not now, when?

Sure, what's your plan? Cos I don't see any good options.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

ewe2 posted:

Sure, what's your plan? Cos I don't see any good options.

Drink heavily before the world goes Mad Max.

Know where your leather jacket is.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Solemn Sloth posted:

Yeah I recognise it's a uphill battle but seriously, if not now, when?

Feel free to point to the three seats the Dems are going to flip while also keeping North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Missouri, and West Virginia.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

ewe2 posted:

Yeah he's to the right of Scalia, as I said. The only good thing about this is that he just slots into an existing power structure 4 pro-liberal, 4 pro-conservative, 1 centrist. It gets interesting if a non-conservative dies or retires.

There is no right battle for the Democrats, either you look at it and say may as well oppose now since they'll throw away the rulebook or you don't oppose and look bad. But if they do oppose now, and the rulebook is thrown away, that means they can't use it if another judge goes. That's the calculation aside from individual Democrat ambitions. Once that rulebook goes, they can do literally nothing because GOP will just steamroll everything. They literally may as well not even turn up then.

So, to keep their options open for SCOTUS they may have to tread carefully, but I think that something else will trigger the nuclear option and they'll be hosed anyway. At this point, I'd be working hard at the State level of opposition since that's likely to be the way to really put SCOTUS in a bind. The fear is also that if they don't get their way, GOP will nobble courts.

you're loving dumb as dogshit dude. there is no difficult decision. the republicans aren't going to reward democrats if they play nice with them. did you literally just start following US politics because the last 8 years demonstrated this very well over and over and over.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Doctor Spaceman posted:

The Senate is an uphill battle because it's the people who were re-elected alongside Obama's win in 2012, and the House is gerrymandered to hell.

On the other hand Trump is a hell of a target to run against.

If Trump has driven the country into a recession by then and made life worse for the rednecks who voted for him originally, and democrat voters are outraged and motivated enough to actually get out and vote it might be doable.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

BBJoey posted:

you're loving dumb as dogshit dude. there is no difficult decision. the republicans aren't going to reward democrats if they play nice with them. did you literally just start following US politics because the last 8 years demonstrated this very well over and over and over.

Let me know when you figure out the reading thing, kid. The rest of the kindergarten are ahead of you.

blindidiotgod
Jan 9, 2005



Hello Auspol, i'm feeling like staring into your abyss again.

That OP is loving spectacular.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Guy on Radio National is talking about how automation and moving jobs to the lowest cost location will result in people "finding something else to do" as an off-handed result.

"Finding Something Else To Do"'. That's what you call a revolution. Or a civil war.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Well, if there was a workable social safety net, people would.

As it stands now, the "something else" is suffer in poverty.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
A good day for Turnbull. Good optics all round. Should keep the backbench off his hammer for a bit.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Trump is so unpopular abroad that any friction Turnbull has with him makes Turnbull more popular.

It's an upside for Turnbull, I guess, but it's hard to be excited for him when today was probably the deciding factor whether or not the Mad Max future happens.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
What I'd loving give to have someone leak a recording of that phone call.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




There's definitely at least one recording, one in the US one in Canberra and probably a few at the kremlin.

Apparently Trumpo was yelling at Malcolm which is pretty fuckin' wild.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Actually it doesn't help Turnbull, because everyone knows he was licking arse and still got shat on.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I wish I could have seen Turnbull's face as he tried being all puffed up statesman like at first then realised he was being talked down to by a shouty reality TV show host who considered him to be less than nothing.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

DancingShade posted:

I wish I could have seen Turnbull's face as he tried being all puffed up statesman like at first then realised he was being talked down to by a shouty reality TV show host who considered him to be less than nothing.

Probably the same look as whenever he tries being all puffed up statesman like and he realises he is being talked down to by an onion eating reptile

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Imagine losing to this tasteless piece of poo poo:





drat, his feet are tinier than his hands.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

There's talk of exporting our service industries. How the gently caress do you do that (other than drive professionals overseas because we're poo poo) ?

I sure hope they're not expecting our internet to withstand the effort.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

ewe2 posted:

There's talk of exporting our service industries. How the gently caress do you do that (other than drive professionals overseas because we're poo poo) ?

I sure hope they're not expecting our internet to withstand the effort.

I think it's a bit like hosting a call center that makes money by taking calls from overseas. Except more agile or something

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

well why not posted:

Trump is so unpopular abroad that any friction Turnbull has with him makes Turnbull more popular.

It's an upside for Turnbull, I guess, but it's hard to be excited for him when today was probably the deciding factor whether or not the Mad Max future happens.

I don't think attempting to suck up to Trump, getting shut the gently caress down, attempting to lie and say you are best buds, then getting publicly humiliated is as good for turnbulls popularity as you think it is.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Obama must be laughing his goddamn rear end off.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Synthbuttrange posted:

Obama must be laughing his goddamn rear end off.

He is on Richard Branson private island right now choomin and chillin. Last photo I saw he was in shorts a T-Shirt sunnies and a backwards baseball cap

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

gay picnic defence posted:

I think it's a bit like hosting a call center that makes money by taking calls from overseas. Except more agile or something

Yeah it just sounded like half-baked advisor soundbites, it didn't survive the news cycle. Or perhaps that was just Qantas's excuse for moving their call centre to the Philippines like everyone else.

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

"Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."

Solemn Sloth posted:

If the democrats can't manage to win back congress with two years of trump under their belt they should just log off and walk into the ocean.

Edit: beaten like american democracy

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
When someone says exporting service industries, I think overseas call centers.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Comstar posted:

Guy on Radio National is talking about how automation and moving jobs to the lowest cost location will result in people "finding something else to do" as an off-handed result.

"Finding Something Else To Do"'. That's what you call a revolution. Or a civil war.
Or Amazon Prime. Oh wait...

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Milky Moor posted:

When someone says exporting service industries, I think overseas call centers.

Australia has lots of services industries to export such as

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Service industries are 68% of the Australian economy.

To compare - mining is around 7-8%.

If we offshore the service industry, there'll be nothing left.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Education is a service industry you can "export".

E: This is obviously different to sending industries offshore.

Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Feb 2, 2017

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




If i were a teen now I'd be learning a second or even third language in hope of making a career teaching English somewhere in Asia. It's one of the few things that we can do better than other countries in SE Asia.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

DancingShade posted:

Australia has lots of services industries to export such as

The Professor being interviewed wanted to offshore his paper work, the daily routines he wants to get someone else to do, so he could spend more time teaching students.

I really wanted to ask who is going to be paying to listen when we have no jobs to pay for it, huge debts after it., and no jobs at the end of the education he was so thoughtfully providing.

Sadly I don't think he'd thought that far ahead.

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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Gorilla Salad posted:

Service industries are 68% of the Australian economy.

To compare - mining is around 7-8%.

If we offshore the service industry, there'll be nothing left.

Offshore finance? Yeah maybe.

Offshore our.. tourism? I guess we can box up Uluru and send it to China.

Offshore our media? Well it's all been destroyed or taken over by Rupert so sure why not.

Offshore education? Ok sure, import cheap overseas trained teachers and the locals can go pick fruit on the work for the dole program.

Offshore logistics? I don't see a need for much for this locally once the previous stuff happens.

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