Auspol February 2017 - Choo choose your candidates wisely..

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ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Peter Reith was elected to the Victorian Liberal State Council yesterday, so he can challenge Michael Kroger for the President job. Because thats what they need, another dodgy arsehole.

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ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

JBP posted:

Shorten needs to just keep repeating the same things over and over again though. He can just keep saying Liberals bad and they steal from poors right into the election.

Not too hard when Trumbles throws out quotes like:

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Now, we stand for small business. Labor invariably lines up with big business.

And then proceeds to a confused narrative where business only cuts wages because it's a deal with the unions yet profits rise but no investment because tax. The base love it, right?

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 05:22

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

New 18c/18d tactic from the Libs: make it more expensive and difficult to complain:

guardian politics live posted:

The Report makes several recommendations to fix the complaints handling process related to section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act. These include:

� providing greater assistance to respondents to match what is currently afforded to complainants;

� imposing time limits on notifying respondents and on the complaints handling processes more generally;

� ensuring section 18D defences are considered by the Commission in assessing complaints;

� giving the Commission greater powers to terminate complaints earlier in the process;

� restricting access to the Courts following the Commission�s termination of a complaint;

� providing penalties for legal practitioners instituting complaints that have no reasonable prospects of success; and

� providing more parliamentary oversight to the Commission.

Julian Lesser, who's throwing this garbage out, adds:

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These reforms will return section 18C to its intended function as an important but limited protection against the worst kind of racial hate speech. They will also put important limitations on the types of complaints that are pursued and provide more oversight of the Human Rights Commission.

Section 18C plays an important role in our multicultural society. However, it was always intended as a limited protection, to be used only in serious cases. The way the law is currently being administered allows too many nuisance complaints. The threshold for making a complaint is so low as to be virtually redundant. These reforms will see that complaints with no prospect of success, such as those made against the QUT students and Bill Leak, thrown out.

So having failed to legislate, they will get their way via regulation and then proceed to gently caress over anyone too poor or unconnected to do anything about it. Big drat heroes.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 06:47

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Also the twitter #auspol radio station here:

https://www.spreaker.com/user/auspollive

Currently live discussing the #pentaltyrates

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 07:11

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Estimates hearings are the worst. Let's get in some Commissioner that earns 500k a year or something then ask them stupid questions.

They're often the most illuminating sessions though. Politically they're more fraught than they seem, certainly I learnt a lot more about the thinking of these numbskulls. Some things come up that are later reflected in politics in the HR and Senate, they can be a good heads up.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 09:43

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

JBP posted:

Why didn't Pauline turn up to bash that Musso Australian post bloke they had in for questioning today?

Dunno, but Sam Dastyari had a field day on twitter yelling at her about it. Oh yeah, he's back.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 11:28

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

noplaceforsheep.com spells out what's at stake in the centrelink doxxing incident, which deserves to be quoted in full:

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The Office of the Australian Information Commissioner�s Use or disclosure of personal information regulations address this situation thus:

6.22 Examples of where an individual may reasonably expect their personal information to be used or disclosed for a secondary purpose include where:

the individual makes adverse comments in the media about the way an APP [Australian Privacy Principles] entity has treated them. In these circumstances, it may be reasonable to expect that the entity may respond publicly to these comments in a way that reveals personal information specifically relevant to the issues that the individual has raised[8]

The APPs and the APP guidelines apply from 12 March 2014 and cover both Australian Government agencies and organisations covered by the Privacy Act.

I would argue that it is never reasonable to expect that Centrelink will divulge your personal information to the media under any circumstances, and 6.22 needs to be scrapped. The paragraph makes no reference as to whether or not your adverse comments are justified. You only need to make comments Centrelink considers adverse for them to reveal your private information to the media.

Criticism of a government agency can see you stripped of all privacy. Think about that.

This should make anyone who entrusts Centrelink and other government agencies with private information, very nervous.

At the same time, if you need Centrelink assistance you have no choice but to give them all the private information they require. This is a lose-lose situation for citizens, and it is entirely unacceptable.

Andie Fox, the subject of Tudge�s vengeful action, is a middle class professional woman, like millions of others who claim Family Tax Benefit, and the millions of older Australians who claim part pensions. Tudge, in this instance, has not gone after his stereotypical welfare recipient. So don�t feel you are safe in your demographic, because you aren�t. Should you get Centrelink offside, your private information can be given to the media whether your complaints are justified or not, without any consultation or warning.

There is a website titled �Not my debt� where you�ll find page after page of adverse commentary on Centrelink. There are thousands of critical tweets. There are hundreds of articles in mainstream media and the blogosphere dedicated to adverse commentary on Centrelink. Yet Alan Tudge went after one woman.

If you think your privacy is safe with government agencies as long as you keep your mouth shut, think about what kind of country you�re living in, and what kind of person you�re becoming because of it.

Centrelink is an apolitical body. An individual�s private information held by the agency must not employed as a silencing tool by the government of the day.

In fact, Tudge's defence of this has today been refuted by his own department and the point will be chased up in estimates as potentially misleading Parliament.

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ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Les Affaires posted:

Because being mostly illiterate in economics and a former (current?) small business owner she believes this is a good thing overall and that only children and students do these jobs and are affected by the decision, and has been sold the propaganda by the others in the party who know better but don't give a poo poo.

There are actual small business owners who've said its crap so she doesn't have that leg to stand on either. Seriously, a real small business owner knows exactly what this does to their staff, and usually depend on their staff a lot more than a larger business, so idiot or arsehole, there's no other excuse.

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