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Azerban
Oct 28, 2003



phoenix rising was the name of the place i bought warhammer figurines when i was in grade 7

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Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

Azerban posted:

phoenix rising was the name of the place i bought warhammer figurines when i was in grade 7

Just across the street from Mojo Rising.

Possible nice little new stadium for Louisville City FC:

http://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/780556

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
Looks like FCC found a pretty decent replacement for Okoli.

Let's go Djiby!!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
You know when I told you to sit down? Well, sit the gently caress down again, because the NASL is forming their OWN third tier league.

Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

https://streamable.com/bhib3

https://twitter.com/TampaBayRowdies/status/855051106178617347

Tampa Bay Rowdies

‏Verified account @TampaBayRowdies

Marcel Schäfer's 🚀 against @fccincinnati landed at #2 in @SportsCenter's Top 10. #SCtop10

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awyeahz
Aug 21, 2005

~*~BeDtImE~4~B0NZ0~*~
https://twitter.com/NYCosmos/status/855176027290705920

https://twitter.com/ACSIndiana/status/852270013721579520

Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

The Unused Substitutes have this cool online magazine called The Bench:

http://www.theunsubs.com/wp/2017/04/22/the-bench-vol-2-issue-4/2772

There will be an #MLS2StPete rally a week from now before the Rowdies home game, three days before the May 2nd St. Pete referendum; details in The Bench above.

Things are looking good for a yes vote; fingers crossed knock on wood.

Coincidentally, MLS is reevaluating the Miami situation this coming week.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
FC Cincinnati had more fans at their first 3 games of 2017 than 21 USL teams drew their ENTIRE 2016 season.

Aardvark Barber
Sep 7, 2007

Delivery in less than two minutes or your money back!


Let's go Hounds! (Riverhounds)

I regrettably have only been able to watch a few matches online so far this year, plan to make it out to a game soon.

Has anyone been this year?

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'
I stayed at the hotel right next to their stadium recently and was super disappointed that they weren't in town that weekend. I've watched a couple of their games streaming, and it seems like a sweet place to watch some soccer.

Aardvark Barber
Sep 7, 2007

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camoseven posted:

I stayed at the hotel right next to their stadium recently and was super disappointed that they weren't in town that weekend. I've watched a couple of their games streaming, and it seems like a sweet place to watch some soccer.

It's great!

The past few years I've went on the 4th of July - they let everyone stay in the Stadium after the game and watch the Downtown Pittsburgh fireworks.

Pretty cool stuff.

Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

So as I am sure everyone knows by now, the vote in St. Petersburg passed with 87% yes vote Tuesday last week.

And now we go back to the waiting game. #MLS2StPete #MLS2TampaBay #Rowdies2MLS #COYR

In other news, CSA has approved the new Canadian Premier League.

Asheville, North Carolina now has a soccer team: Asheville City Soccer Club (NPSL). This is definitely the type of small city I can see supporting a lower league club. Yes they even have a small selection of locally microbrewed beer.

Possible new USL D3 club in Lexington, Kentucky.

Nashville MLS bidder buys the USL club, Nashville SC, for a unified club ownership in Nashville.

Phoenix Rising hires Goldman Sachs to finance their potential MLS stadium.

Tacoma Rainiers minor league baseball club will be taking over and running Sounders 2 reserve team in partnership with the Seattle Sounders. With a new local stadium and a new name/brand for Tacoma.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
A Canadian Premier League is a good idea. The question is, will the Canadian MLS clubs play ball?

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

all-Rush mixtape posted:

A Canadian Premier League is a good idea. The question is, will the Canadian MLS clubs play ball?

I'd say that depends on what "playing ball" entails. The uncomfortable tension that's always been in my mind about the CPL is that MLS has already planted itself in the three biggest TV (and otherwise) markets in Canada, and while it's not clear how well a national league would do financially and mindshare-wise without a presence there, it's also not clear how well it would manage to compete in those areas in direct competition.

We only know concrete details about two of the starting teams in the CPL (Winnipeg and Hamilton) so honestly I still don't know how they intend to resolve this. There was some noise about the Canadian MLS teams putting their affiliate teams in CPL instead of USL (with the predictable reaction from a lot of vocal CPL fans) but that's died down and all you've got instead is people like TFC's president making noises about being "very protective" of Toronto as a market.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


In the long term, MLS will be poisonous to the growth of soccer in North America.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
Blah, I really wish FCC didn't fire their coach.... This new guy can't handle the guys at all.. They all look like they have never played together. /endrant

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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Dallan Invictus posted:

I'd say that depends on what "playing ball" entails. The uncomfortable tension that's always been in my mind about the CPL is that MLS has already planted itself in the three biggest TV (and otherwise) markets in Canada, and while it's not clear how well a national league would do financially and mindshare-wise without a presence there, it's also not clear how well it would manage to compete in those areas in direct competition.

We only know concrete details about two of the starting teams in the CPL (Winnipeg and Hamilton) so honestly I still don't know how they intend to resolve this. There was some noise about the Canadian MLS teams putting their affiliate teams in CPL instead of USL (with the predictable reaction from a lot of vocal CPL fans) but that's died down and all you've got instead is people like TFC's president making noises about being "very protective" of Toronto as a market.

Well, there are nine cities with teams in the CFL. Of them:
-Three have MLS teams
-Two are in division 2
-Two have been confirmed to the CPL

Which leaves Calgary and Saskatchewan the only two markets not yet represented. Even with those two places getting teams, the CPL really needs at least 2 of the 3 MLS markets to get to a respectable 8 members (unless Quebec City has a soccer stadium).

Tank44
Jun 13, 2005

We want the ball & We're going to score
For the CPL, I've been reading that the goal will be something like: Victoria, BC2 (Fraser Valley or Kelowna), Edmonton, Calgary, Regina, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Kitchener-Waterloo, Ottawa, Quebec city, moncton & Halifax.

kliksf
Jan 1, 2003
Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher and Liverpool supporter Brandon McCarthy is a partner in the Phoenix Rising ownership. https://twitter.com/BMcCarthy32 I wonder if he had anything to do with Drogba.

awyeahz
Aug 21, 2005

~*~BeDtImE~4~B0NZ0~*~
Cosmos are doing a friendly in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in two weeks for some reason
https://twitter.com/NYCosmos/status/862013491997265921

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
Cosmos in Cuba, I can understand. Cosmos in Saudi Arabia, I can't.

awyeahz
Aug 21, 2005

~*~BeDtImE~4~B0NZ0~*~
:siren: COSMOS DRAMA :siren:

The This is Cosmos Country Podcast quit after Rocco Cosmos got mad at this article and called from Saudi Arabia at 3 am to yell at them

http://www.empireofsoccer.com/cosmos-trip-to-middle-east-raising-eyebrows-61205/

eos posted:

The club and a handful of team officials received VIP treatment for their trip on Emirates Airlines, one of the Cosmos main sponsors, less than 24 hours after New York was ousted from the Open Cup by Reading United on Wednesday night. It was perhaps the club’s worst loss since its reboot season in 2013.

“We’ve noticed, in our own channels, in the fan base, a growing number of fans who were happy the team came back under new ownership, but are now upset with this friendly and the exit from the Open Cup,” Luis Hernandez, one of the hosts of the Cosmos Country podcast, told EoS on Friday. “There’s been a growing amount of fans who are voicing a degree of distrust or anger, there’s definitely anger. They lost in the Open Cup to a D4 team, their earliest exit [in the Cup] and now they’re off to Saudi Arabia to play a friendly that doesn’t matter.”

quote:

“Last Friday night after the EoS article came out I got a phone call from Joe Barone,” Luis Hernandez, one of the founders, told EoS on Thursday afternoon. “Among other things he said he got 3 a.m. local time call from Rocco [majority owner Rocco Commissio] who was with the club in Saudi Arabia. There was a lot of anger. Part of what he said was something like if you want to talk about this on the podcast you’ll see what happens.

Also a shadowy foreign sports marketing/money laundering operation is a part of the ownership group and I for one am shocked!

Strenots
Jun 21, 2005

'Course it's a good idea!


Link

Looks like FC Cincinnati has started in on details regarding a stadium plan. Any mention of public funding, tax increase or not, is going to face a lot of opposition thanks to the legacy of Paul Brown Stadium. May be better received across the river at the Newport location, but it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. I'd be happy with Newport or the West End location (close to OTR), but I see both being an absolute traffic nightmare without some serious infrastructure work.

awyeahz
Aug 21, 2005

~*~BeDtImE~4~B0NZ0~*~
https://twitter.com/fccincinnati/status/871734261409337344

it's apparently Valencia who have a friendly with a certain NASL club on July 22. In Regina, Saskatchewan for some reason

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/july-22-valencia-vs-ny-cosmos-1.4106187

Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

https://twitter.com/SiriusXMFC/status/869904136258670592

quote:

SiriusXM FC

Verified account @SiriusXMFC

SiriusXM FC Retweeted SiriusXM FC

We'll also be joined by Joe Cole and @TampaBayRowdies legends Steve Wegerle & Mark Lindsay!

Come join @RodneyMarsh10 & @TommySmythESPN!

SiriusXM FC added,

SiriusXM FCVerified

account @SiriusXMFC

BREAKING NEWS!

The #GrumpyPundits are going on the road!…

https://www.reddit.com/r/TampaBayRowdies/comments/6evbj6/thurs_june_8th_rodney_marsh_and_tommy_smyth_will/

quote:

Thurs. June 8th: Rodney Marsh and Tommy Smyth will be hosting their SiriusXM FC show "Grumpy Pundits" at Sundial St. Pete (with guests Joe Cole, former Rowdies Steve Wegerle & Mark Lindsay) (twitter.com)

The Sundial is owned by Bill Edwards, so it is a safe bet that #MLS2StPete will be one of the topics under discussion.

Anyway, an interesting gathering of Rowdies old & new.

Do over Ham fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jun 6, 2017

awyeahz
Aug 21, 2005

~*~BeDtImE~4~B0NZ0~*~
peter wilt is creating yet another league to compete with USL-Div 3 because in the grim future of american lower league soccer there is only war

http://midfieldpress.com/2017/06/06...launch-in-2018/

quote:

In April, the group held a meeting with representatives from potential clubs in 17 different markets. Shortly thereafter, Wilt and Cummins formed the National Independent Soccer Association (NISA), and have since received 10 letters of intent to join. Wilt expects that the NISA will kick off in the spring of 2018, and that 8-10 clubs will be part of the inaugural season, with other investor groups expected to take the league up to 14-16 teams for the 2019 season. The intention is for NISA to top out at 24 clubs, and then participate in promotion and relegation with other leagues.

Building a traditional, global style soccer pyramid with promotion and relegation between the NASL, NISA and NPSL, offers an alternative to the the MLS-USL strategic partnership. NISA is being launched with the intention of one day being involved in a promotion and relegation system, ideally with the NASL above it and a full season tier of an amateur or semi-pro league such as the NPSL operating at a fourth division level below it.

theres some insanely optimistic math here

quote:

Operating expenses can be as low as $1.5M per year, whereas a higher end budget for this league is $3.0M per year. We believe the lower end model can be successful for clubs that can sell 3000 tickets per game and be moderately successful with corporate sponsorships.

At the lower end budget, you will need to sell 3000 tickets per game over 15 home matches at an average price of $16 per ticket. That would generate $750,000 in ticket sales revenues. The other major revenue category will be corporate sponsorships, which you would need to get around $800,000 revenue from. There will also be some additional revenues from ancillary stadium sales, merchandise and soccer camps that should add up to about $300,000. So on the low end, you could have revenues of about $1.8M against expenses around $1.5M. If you are going to operate at a higher budget, teams will need 4000 to 5000 in ticket sales per match, and sponsorship would need to be between $1 million to $1.5 million to break even operationally. Average ticket price will be variable based on market, but this gives a general sense of the business challenge and opportunity in NISA.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Peter Wilt is actually the only reason anyone has to be optimistic about the future of American soccer. Literally the only exec who isn't a moron.

Angstronaut
Apr 26, 2005

is there no shame?
My home team is Chattanooga FC and it seems like we are very much involved in NISA and will inevitably join. Very interested to see who the first round teams are, how local rivalries are affected, how the financials end up working out.

And of course Ted Westervelt is against it :lol:

sleepwalkers
Dec 7, 2008


Angstronaut posted:

My home team is Chattanooga FC and it seems like we are very much involved in NISA and will inevitably join. Very interested to see who the first round teams are, how local rivalries are affected, how the financials end up working out.

And of course Ted Westervelt is against it :lol:

DCFC fan here. People seem cautiously bullish, it's a really intriguing idea if it all pans out... Won't miss toddlers waddling onto the pitch and toothless owners calling us "jagoffs" over the PA, though. The NPSL is a shitshow.

e: Oh, also gently caress Ted.

awyeahz
Aug 21, 2005

~*~BeDtImE~4~B0NZ0~*~
one thing about american lower league soccer that i just can't get enough of is hideous gaudy renders of future mls stadiums that look like a cgi background from the star wars prequels

https://twitter.com/fccincinnati/status/874404725139156992

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
Then comes the inevitable new stadium smacktalk:

https://twitter.com/loucoopers/status/874399824245907456

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
What a loving night for FC Cincinnati! 30K+ attendance when the game was only announced 13 days ago.... And a win against a pretty much full strength MLS side.

https://twitter.com/CincyProblems/status/875154122638594049

Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

Bill Edwards has bought the moldering remains of the Ft. Lauderdale Strikers.

https://thefloridasqueeze.com/2017/06/20/fort-lauderdale-strikers-begin-new-chapter-with-bill-edwards-acquisition/

Also:

quote:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/fl-bz-fort-lauderdale-strikers-auction-20170619-story.html

Fort Lauderdale Strikers' key assets sold for $5,100 at public auction

Do over Ham fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jun 21, 2017

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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The question now is, is this more embarrassing than buying a team on eBay?

Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

all-Rush mixtape posted:

The question now is, is this more embarrassing than buying a team on eBay?

Especially when you end up rebranding a few years down the road anyway, because reasons.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
FC Cincinnati being on ESPN for a non final Cup game warms my heart so so so much!

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'

fyallm posted:

FC Cincinnati being on ESPN for a non final Cup game warms my heart so so so much!

Agreed, and also there is an Open Cup thread

awyeahz
Aug 21, 2005

~*~BeDtImE~4~B0NZ0~*~
what san francisco needs is more startups
https://twitter.com/NipunChopra7/status/880960507762667521

quote:

NC – Let me ask the question in a better way. What are the things that need to get done for the 2019 launch to happen?

JG – The only pieces missing are the stadium and approval from United Soccer League.

G – We are looking at constructing a modular stadium. The stadium is a significant difference between what Deltas have done and what we are doing. I think our branding, marketing and infrastructure will be better than the Deltas. The USL already has an excellent infrastructure in place with other teams in the areas. Those are built-in rivalries. Whether it’s Sacramento, Reno or Fresno; which will reduce our travel cost as well. We see the league being significantly more stable. We like the business model of the USL, and it’s the model we believe in moving forward.

Kezar is not a viable venue. We also plan on providing premium amenities, beer gardens, in-game entertainment, scoreboard – the last of which they don’t have at Kezar.
The Deltas are not necessarily in tune with the market dynamics.
We’re certainly not looking to lose millions like the Deltas are doing.
Unless the Deltas change what they’re doing, they will go out of business.
https://twitter.com/brianhelmick/status/881022773744648194

Deltas are averaging 2400 in attendance, they don't have a tv deal bc they stream the games on periscope, theres no parking at kezar, instead of a scoreboard they have an Augmented Reality Scoreboard App and the only marketing outside of twitter is an ad on the side of a city bus. Which is in Portuguese.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮
Now, SFFC is Div. 2 USL, right?

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Do over Ham
Mar 20, 2009

Rowdies now or soon will have at least three ex-Cosmos players (Sebastian Guenzatti, Walter Restrepo, Leo Fernandes). Collect 'em all!

Strikers aren't around anymore to take players from, so we raid the Cosmos.

If Rowdies go to MLS, Giovanni Savarese might be available as coach, maybe. Apparently he wants to leave the Cosmos for an MLS coaching gig.

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