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glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


FrenzyTheKillbot posted:

Calling the players "puppets" for their lawyers is at least a somewhat reasonable legal argument to make. However, claiming the players are too stupid to have their own thoughts and opinions is reeeaaaaallly bad.

Well, after all those concussions....

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glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


This was an interesting little factoid and it got me wondering:

https://twitter.com/JapersRink/status/828698152920309766

Of all the teams doing well this season the Caps are definitely the most stacked with 1st rounders, but all those teams have a good chunk of high picks throughout the top of the roster. Really, every almost every team has at least a few throughout the roster and some of the under-performing teams are pretty stacked with 1st and 2nd round players (Colorodo).

To me, the most interesting outlier is Pittsburgh who are completely the opposite in being very good with tons of low or undrafted players and a lot from outside the org: http://www.rosterresource.com/nhl-pittsburgh-penguins/

Boston also has very few high picks but, you know, isn't very good.

edit:

Completely unrelated to any of the above, but holy poo poo Arizona...

glynnenstein fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Feb 7, 2017

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Speaking of bad coaches...

https://twitter.com/garik16/status/828794372040843264

https://twitter.com/shane1342o/status/828794644129525760

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Pornographic Memory posted:

Are the Panthers still looking for a new coach or is Rowe actually considered their real coach and not a temporary replacement?

Rowe is still interim, and here's a thing I saw today in my twitter dive that suggests they probably ought to continue looking: http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/system-analysis-digging-deeper-into-floridas-struggles/

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


https://twitter.com/RFCapsMoustache/status/828953674403741696

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


I'm re-experiencing the trauma of 2002-2004. That was so bad. At least with Hanlon we knew the plan was to tank and rebuild. That got very old after a few years, but you could see that it was going to work out eventually. Cassidy just took a very good, expensive team with high expectations and turned it to utter poo poo.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Jamwad Hilder posted:

I'm actually starting to think Julien was fired because the Bruins have no backup goaltending. Which again, is Sweeney's fault. Khudobin/McIntyre/Subban are collectively 1-9-2. If they had even managed .500, which doesn't seem unreasonable to expect of backup goaltending, Boston has 4 more wins. While that's still maybe not great considering how many games they've played, I don't think Julien gets fired if they're within two points of the division leader.

Boston seems to have problems with goaltending, to say the least. Check out the %goals on shots against/60 on this chart:



You can also see, on the plus side, they generate a good number of shots while denying opponents shots.

However, the shots they take are predominantly from relatively poorer areas



That could be a systems issue or a talent issue or both. I don't watch enough B's games to say.


edit:

Their goaltending doesn't have a ton of excuses about where the Bruins allow opponents to shoot from, either.

glynnenstein fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Feb 7, 2017

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Mind_Taker posted:

Someone should offer-sheet Gostisbehere this offseason but it'll never happen. For instance, would the Flyers be willing to match a $5M contract for 6 years or would they just take the first and third as compensation?

Vegas can negotiate with RFA and UFA players a couple days ahead of the expansion draft and sign guys instead of drafting someone from that team.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Eh, it's a big a cliche about athletes at this level for real reasons. Bruce Boudreau was very honest in talking about how if he'd worked harder as a player and not relied on talent he could have had a much more successful pro career. Almost everyone who makes the NHL has always been among the best players on every team they've been on since they were kids and a lot of them could coast a bit. Matt Bradley talked about how he was a skilled goal-scorer type player until he was playing major junior or whatever and that suddenly he had to work his rear end off just to hang. Personally I was never going to play for-real serious hockey, but if I'd actually worked as hard as I've learned to as an adult, I could have played at a much higher level. Hindsight is cruel that way, but I am sure coaches are seeing that in others and trying to do something about it. I agree that straight up benching someone like Ghost is probably hurting both the team and the player more than it's fixing a problem, but I'm willing to believe there's something to the concern given a coach like Hakstol has watched a lot of young players develop.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


At this level, the training plans for players are very specific and customized by the training staff. Some people are hard gainers but that's not news to professional fitness people and they're gonna know if someone was slacking off from a plan vs just working against genetics. Whether or not the coach interprets that the same way and doesn't interfere with the training staff is more open to question.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


People also hit physical and psychological limits that they have to learn to work around/through. This can create unfair perceptions where others see a problem with work-ethic that is actually more about unlocking your mind to reach new limits or finding out how to deal with your body as things change. I know all too well how injuries can throw someone off track when they are used to a particular workout routine that they have to to change and then find the results aren't the same. It can take a long time to figure that stuff out.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Seems normal to me. It would be weird if he was slapping his pee pee, which he is explicitly not.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


I've watched the Caps since the mid-80s and the team over the last 2 months is better than any Caps team I've ever seen, taking into account the complete game they're playing. Individual players and lines on teams from the past have been more impressive, but this team has it clicking throughout the roster. They're flying very high and are going to regress in a few areas where they've been performing unsustainably, but it's still a very good, well built team with as good a chance as anyone in the playoffs. The past has almost nothing to do with it, but there's definitely no guarantees; good and even great teams still lose in the playoffs. Many of the Caps post-season failures have been shockingly close with "inevitable collapses" coming down to 1 goal over 7 games or 1 bad goalie interference call. This year's team should be a top favorite, but they still have to beat some extremely good and motivated teams.

This season has been a ton of fun, but their regression is likely to start right now. One thing they've had amazing luck in is injuries, but the season is starting to add up. Burakovsky is out 4-6 weeks and has been playing really great hockey since he was benched for a couple games in December, Connolly wrenched his ankle last night as he hit career a high, and Beagle has taken a couple rough shot blocks in the past couple games. Oshie missed time earlier (and it showed in the team's performance) as did Carlson; both may be nursing things that could pop up during the final stretch of the season before any of this matters. A week off isn't known to keep goalies hot, and that's here too.

We'll see soon enough. This year's team has made great strides to improve the defense and depth scoring, shelter Ovechkin from carrying the whole team on his back, and moved away from reliance on the power-play while still putting in goals. It's nice to look at the playoffs hopefully and the current run is still fun even knowing the next 20 games will almost certainly be less outlandishly dominant.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Levitate posted:

Dolan is terrible Oakley seems kind of like a crazy person so I'm not sure who I should be cheering for there

Not this guy:

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014



He's gonna get a peepee slapping.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Regarding the husk of Joe Thornton, his point production and TOI has declined a ton this season, but he does seem to be making his team better.

They generate a ton of dangerous shots with him:



And he makes most players on the ice with him better:


He and Hertl don't seem to sync up but Joe Pavelski, um... kinda likes to play with jumbo Joe to understate it.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Interesting stats post about power-play structure and what makes power-plays good. Insightful to reflect on just why Ovechkin scores from his office so much and also touches on the BJs success this year.

https://hockey-graphs.com/2017/02/14/measuring-the-importance-of-structure-on-the-power-play/

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Another good one...

https://twitter.com/datarink/status/831512582695505920

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


In all the history of the NHL there was this one 6 month or so span in 2007 where they actually threw around several suspensions of 20+ games that reflected the actual dangerous behavior players were undertaking. lol

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Cartoon Man posted:

How do Caps fans feel about Sanford getting the start again over Vrana? I feel like Vrana is the better choice long term...but Trotz says that Sanford has earned the job for now. Not sure how I feel about it.

I think both guys are going to get a chance to stick in some NHL games. I don't have a problem with giving Sanford the first shot while he's hot; we already know a good bit about where Vrana is right now.

Spring Break My Heart posted:

He did, and was very good there.

He played better than everybody else on the Caps, but wasn't league-best, which was the expectation. Anyway, he specifically apologized to DC for things not working out and that's when I learned to forgive Jagr and to appreciate those haunches again.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Overwined posted:

Jagr's highs were never as great as the Greats. But he has been consistently excellent for so many years. I think it's really the volume and duration of his production that makes him a great player.

I'd definitely call Jagr a great and his highs were up there. He won the Ross 5 times and came within 2 or 3 goals of the "Richard" 4 or 5 times.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Pancakes by Mail posted:

Trying to directly compare stats from different eras is dumb, the best way to assess someone's greatness is what they did compared to what the league was doing at that time and by that standard Gretzy is still the best.

Best by a lot.

He isn't first in era adjusted goals, but he's among the greats, obviously. Oh, look who else is up there...

e: #31 in era adjusted goals, #1 in our heart, Bonzai!

glynnenstein fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Feb 20, 2017

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Kalenn Istarion posted:

I dunno I get soaked through pretty much every time I play so I imagine it wouldn't feel that different other than colder I guess

I played a game in the rain in the late 90s and it was the most miserable game I ever played in. Your pads absorb so much more water than you ever imagined was possible; they probably weigh 2 or 3 times as much as normal. Water sloshing around in your skate boot! The puddles on the ice stop the puck randomly and stick-handling is impossible so the whole thing becomes dump and chase and you shoot as soon as you can hit the net. Imagine doing a stop and a rooster-tail of 35 degree water shoots up your leg. THE WORST.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Is "French gently caress" not the preferred nomenclature anymore? When did that change?

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Zodijackylite posted:

It's tough to see him get hurt and never get his game back 100%. He seemed like a really good team/room guy from what the Leafs said about him last year, he was always a pretty good PKer, and he even seemed to handle his diminished role pretty well. Seems like he did all the right things to transition to the "beloved veteran" role. I wonder if an injury-riddled team like Ottawa might pick him up to have a guy who plays few minute and PKs but handles the role well, and won't be salty when he ends up a healthy scratch later. Unfortunately, you know Ottawa's too cheap to do that even if they have the cap space.

He was the one who would organize the warm-up shoot-around and collected the pucks afterward, sure sign of a good guy!

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Dale Hunter AND Adam Oates.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Cartoon Man posted:

Isn't Olaf Kolzig doing stuff (or has done stuff) in the background for the Caps? He's always been cool and chill.

Olie's a development coach, and two other... uh... franchise greats Matt Bradley and Brian Sutherby are scouts.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Develop a goal-line technology like in the EPL and let the rest fall as it may. No reviews. Who gives the tiniest poo poo about if the linesman missed offside by less than the width of the puck? How about we don't stop the game for 5 minutes so somebody can make a subjective call about goaltender interference.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Kilza posted:

Oilers lost to Nashville 5-4, where the GWG was offside yet after 7 minutes of reviewing it they got the call wrong and said it was onside:

https://twitter.com/myregularface/status/836008947035308032

Why even bother having the Coach's Challenge if they can't get the loving call right?

That looks onside to me. The blue line moves with the puck, so since the player was in the air before the puck was fully across the blue line and into the zone he wasn't in the zone offside.

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glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Uh....

https://twitter.com/jprutherford/status/836400766206242816

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