NHL N/V February: Therrien, Therrien So Far Away

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Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

The Dirty Burger posted:

Mike Riberio on waivers hahahaha

Finally

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 18:52

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 13:44

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

He's also bad now

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 19:34

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

hifi posted:

Speaking of contracts, it's interesting to see the cap fall on it's face compared to what we expected say 2-3 years ago. I wonder if Bergevin was prepared for a 32 year old Subban with a 9MM hit on a 85MM cap, or Poile with a 40 year old Weber with a 8MM hit on a 95MM cap.

Well, Poile had limited options in the Weber contract situation.

Though them taking the 4 firsts and letting Weber go is an interesting timeline to consider. They probably would have been a little worse for the last 4 years but they were bad for 2 of those years anyway. Probably would be better off now.

edit: Philly's cap situation would have been hilarious.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 22:44

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Pornographic Memory posted:

https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/827681661601054721

so i guess ribeiro's on waivers because nobody wanted him. also why would he request a trade, he seems to have it pretty good in nashville

They've been scratching him a lot because he is bad

# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 03:04

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Also Vinny Viola is dropping out of being Secretary of the Army because he couldn't divest his business enough to meet the ethical standards, which is hilarious considering who nominated him.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 04:22

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Nashville traded for Vern Fiddler, who I thought was retired.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 00:47

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

That book is about as well written as you would expect, but a pretty enjoyable light read.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 23:18

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Duke Chin posted:

That's like, French Southern and Antarctic Lands.... Sounds cozy. I bet they'll have a great team to root for next year.

Nah, the Coyotes will still be bad.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 06:05

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Aphrodite posted:

Those weren't really crazy contracts. Just guys who died early.

Looking forward to 2025 when Weber, Suter, and Parise still have $7.5m+ cap hits.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2017 21:12

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Spring Break My Heart posted:

If you get 6 great years, 3 good years and 3 bad years in a 12 year contract then it worked out phenomenally, even though it comes out as "too long" in the end. It's the ones that turned bad in the 3rd year that were the real issue.

I was trying to find a list of the long contracts and came across this article http://grantland.com/the-triangle/were-any-long-term-nhl-contracts-a-good-idea-2/

A ton of these guys are out of the league already. Keith, Luongo, Zetterberg, Hossa, Ovechkin, Backstrom, and maybe Carter are already 6+ good years in on their deals.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2017 23:26

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Duckman2008 posted:

Visiting Nashville, glad I picked tonight's game to go to and not the 7-4 loss from yesterday. Preds looked mostly ok, but man did the Stars just tank in the final period.

Bridgestone arena was always nice, but they really made it a lot shinier since I was last there (4-5 years ago).

I went to both and can confirm, Sunday was way more fun.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 18:30

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Zodijackylite posted:

The CBA expires after the 2011-22 season, and both the Habs and Preds are going to get out of the recapture on Weber's contract.

IMO that would be a good compromise for closing the Pronger-style LTIR loophole, since that will probably be where most of those recapture contract players are in 2022.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 20:03

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

ThinkTank posted:

Anything over 8 years, so a bunch including:

Sidney Crosby
Shea Weber
Roberto Luongo
Zach Parise
Ryan Suter
Marian Hossa
Duncan Keith
Jonathan Quick
Jeff Carter

and a bunch of others who have already moved on including:

Ilya Bryzgalov
Brad Richards
Vinny Lecavalier
Mike Richards
Christian Ehrhoff
Johan Franzen

You'd have to get a majority of owners to let a handful of teams out of some very dubious contracts that benefited them cap wise while escalating salaries across the league. So yeah, they're here to stay.

Also Zetterberg and Kronwall. And I think Franzen is still on the books, just perma-IR. Zetterberg has a pretty steep recapture if he retires early at all, at this point.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 20:41

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

ThinkTank posted:

There have been 10 trades involving players to appear in an NHL game this year, not one of them has involved a player who regularly appears in the lineup. The esteemed list is:

Vern Fiddler (43 GP)
Tommy Wingels (42 GP)
Nikita Nesterov (41 GP)
Logan Shaw (37 GP)
Nail Yakupov (31 GP)
Mike Condon (31 GP)
Cody McLeod (31 GP)
Peter Holland (27 GP)
Michael Sgarbossa (27 GP)
Dylan McIlrath (5 GP)
Jonas Enroth (3 GP)
Steve Kampfer (1 GP)

I really wish the NHL would do something to start encouraging more trades, because that is stupid. Trades in the NBA are just as complicated, and yet they've had a bunch of big deals so far. Being able to trade cap space was supposed to improve things, but if anything they've got worse. The Hall/Larsson and Subban/Weber trades were entertaining as hell and surely the NHL must see that they're great for the sport? Constant excuses from GMs and an abject lack of noteworthy player movement is just a needless way to bleed entertainment from a sport already desperately short on casual fans.

Expansion draft might be an influence too, this year. Also every team thinks they can make the playoffs.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 20:59

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Holy poo poo.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 22:35

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

grack posted:

Probably. I mean, how many other coaches with NHL experience and French last names are available right now?

Gerard Gallant sounds super Frenchy.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 23:29

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Cartoon Man posted:

Lol didn't he get thrown out by another head coach because he crashed a private team practice claiming he had a right to be there as somebody's private coach?

I dunno if he got thrown out of anywhere but IIRC he was pissing off Mike Yeo when he was coach of the Wild.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 23:39

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

CBJSprague24 posted:

It's really fun, but it doesn't simulate if an exempt player waives his NMC like Clarkson is expected to.

Saad, Dubinsky, Foligno, Hartnell, Atkinson, Jenner, Wennberg; Jones, Savard, Murray or JMFJ, Bob

I think you can uncheck NMC players and unprotect them.

edit: Oh, not injured players though.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 22:05

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Jordan7hm posted:

I think Nashville is much more likely to protect Arvidsson and lose one of Neal, Smith, or Wilson, assuming they protect 4 D. Depends on the contract discussions with Arvidsson.

I think they'll protect Neal and Arvy and leave Wilson and Smith and Aberg and Jarnkrok exposed. At least they only lose one!

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 02:12

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Fil Forsberg has as many hat tricks in the last 2 games as Martin Erat had goals in his Capitals career.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 04:38

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

ThinkTank posted:

Ah, so that's the excuse Benning is going with when he doesn't trade anyone at the deadline.

I mean, if you were an opposing GM, is there anyone the Canucks would be trading that is worth risking your playoff team getting the mumps?

# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 23:03

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

LumpyGumby posted:

Has anyone been to that moving Centennial celebration thing? They're coming to Colorado in March and I'm wondering if everything will be available both days.

I think they had it all both days in Nashville but I wasn't paying a ton of attention.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 04:38

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Vermette suspension upheld, no surprise.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 19:59

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# ¿ May 4, 2024 13:44

Thufir: May 19, 2004; "The fucking Mayans were right."

Arizona retains 50% of Hanzal's salary.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 01:52

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