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get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

CaptainPsyko posted:

Preet Bharara can never run for president.
look, a man can dream, dammit

how did the Peralta meeting go? i hear it was packed

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DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

get that OUT of my face posted:

look, a man can dream, dammit

how did the Peralta meeting go? i hear it was packed

poo poo was lit. The center got filled and overflowed into the street. Out on the street there were like 20 pro-IDC dorks versus what felt like dozens upon dozens of anti-IDC folks. Peralta escaped out the back door, the coward.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

if the Post is correct (tall task, i know), Peralta did it for a raise of $25k. that makes sense because a guy at Hamilton's office also told me he did it for the money, specifically for projects he wanted to establish in his district. and Alcantara's campaign was directly funded by the IDC

supposedly four more are thinking of jumping ship, which makes me think that there's also a problem with Senate Dem leadership

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

First local political campaign I got really involved in was Ken Thompson :(

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
So like... all the members of the IDC are from NYC.

I sense... primary challenges.

jerry seinfel
Jun 25, 2007


Not a NY state goon, but a friend of mine put together this video on NY state politics.

He's planning to do a few more introductory videos about getting involved in local politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZDhef9b_Ys

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Grondoth posted:

So like... all the members of the IDC are from NYC.

I sense... primary challenges.
all but two, and klein reps part of westchester. but yeah, the new defectors will likely get vigorous primary challenges. if i had to choose one of Alcantara's challengers to mount a challenge, i'd pick Micah Lasher

Cuddly Tumblemumps
Aug 23, 2013

Postmodernity means the exhilarating freedom to pursue anything, yet mind-boggling uncertainty as to what is worth pursuing and in the name of what one should pursue it.

get that OUT of my face posted:

Sen. Simcha Felder (kinda/sorta/not really D):
[...] drat near impossible to get an effective challenger. I can think of one person, but he'll have to wait a few years.

Who are you thinking of?

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Cuddly Tumblemumps posted:

Who are you thinking of?
David Schwartz, the male district leader for Dov Hikind's assembly district. he's about as left-wing as we are economically, which makes him the rough equivalent of Stalin over there. and god knows that district needs someone like that- Borough Park has slightly more people living in poverty than East New York

he got elected in 2016, so i highly doubt he's going to run against Felder the first chance he gets

get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 09:36 on Feb 6, 2017

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Is Carlos Menchaca good or bad?

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

butros posted:

Is Carlos Menchaca good or bad?
i honestly have no idea about most individual city council members

Cuddly Tumblemumps
Aug 23, 2013

Postmodernity means the exhilarating freedom to pursue anything, yet mind-boggling uncertainty as to what is worth pursuing and in the name of what one should pursue it.

get that OUT of my face posted:

David Schwartz, the male district leader for Dov Hikind's assembly district. he's about as left-wing as we are economically, which makes him the rough equivalent of Stalin over there. and god knows that district needs someone like that- Borough Park has slightly more people living in poverty than East New York

he got elected in 2016, so i highly doubt he's going to run against Felder the first chance he gets

Figured so much. :) Have watched Schwartz's campaign with some interest given all the factors you've touched upon.
If there's enough support gathered for economic stuff with younger frum people in the district he might have a chance, if things get bad enough to give such an upset room to happen.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Return to Democrats or Resign, Petition Urges Sen. Jose Peralta

drat he sounds like such a loving shithead.

quote:

The petition was filed Saturday morning by Will Sweeney, a community activist and filmmaker from Jackson Heights following a town hall meeting Friday night where Peralta was grilled by residents after joining the Independent Democratic Conference.

By Monday evening, it had received more than 450 signatures.

Peralta and his team said Monday that the petition doesn't accurately represent his constituency, which includes Jackson Heights, East Elmhurst, Elmhurst and Corona, and is filled with signatures of people from elsewhere.

"Regardless of what people in South Korea and Florida might think, I will continue to defend the people of my district," he said in a statement. "I stand by my decision to join the Independent Democratic Conference more than ever, and know we’re going to have a productive legislative session."

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
he's my loving state senator, i guess i'll drop by his office

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

What's the impetus for the growth of the IDC? I can understand a few breakaways depending on district, but with all the NYC ones I would think that would leave them vulnerable to primary challenges, especially in this now heated political climate. Or am I wrongly equating local and national politics?

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 15 minutes!

Aurubin posted:

What's the impetus for the growth of the IDC? I can understand a few breakaways depending on district, but with all the NYC ones I would think that would leave them vulnerable to primary challenges, especially in this now heated political climate. Or am I wrongly equating local and national politics?

From what I understand, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, it's fueled by the Democrats being so utterly terrible to that splitting off into their own block is an improvement even for those who are left-aligned.

99 CENTS AMIGO
Jul 22, 2007
Part of it is definitely the Dem Senate leadership being totally ineffective, and part of it is that IDC members are given a chair or co-chair position, which bumps their salary by 40%.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Aurubin posted:

What's the impetus for the growth of the IDC? I can understand a few breakaways depending on district, but with all the NYC ones I would think that would leave them vulnerable to primary challenges, especially in this now heated political climate. Or am I wrongly equating local and national politics?

The IDC isn't about ideology it's about power. (And money.)

Don't think of the IDC as the Dems that are going to vote to break the filibuster on Gorsuch in a few weeks.

Think of them as a group of Dems that are angry that the other Dems who they mostly agree with are in charge for reasons that have everything to do with politics and nothing to do with policy and so they have taken their ball and gone to sit in the middle.

MODS CURE JOKES
Nov 11, 2009

OFFICIAL SAS 90s REMEMBERER
New York is a terrible place to get into politics. Everywhere you go outside of working class NYC is run by a machine of some sort. The north shore of LI is pretty much a closed-door plutocratic boys club. The south shore is a loving Mob fief, too. Now I live in Buffalo, and the loving Mayor runs as a Democrat and a Republican AT THE SAME TIME. Aaaaaaghhhh

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Well, that's cause there was no Republican challenger.

But yeah, this state is full of clubs and cliques and power brokers. I don't think local politics in Buffalo is impenetrable, though. It seems less back-room deals for most things and more kinda... confusion and disarray.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

it sorta feels like we're at the cusp of a turning point, but we're not there yet. arguably, we were closer before this spat of defections to the IDC. fwiw i heard Stewart-Cousins is a terrible leader and she probably needs to face some sort of backlash for this happening on her watch while she says things decrying it while doing nothing to prevent it. Gianaris probably needs to go too

the Village Voice wrote a good piece about Alcantara (they still write good articles, i guess!) money quote:

quote:

“Too often when legislators of color make decisions based on helping their constituents, they are demonized and accused of having a financial motivation,” Alcantara said in a statement to the Voice. “That’s what’s happening here, and it’s racist.”
how can you go through life with such a Buzzfeed view of the world? i hope Lasher runs and wipes the floor with her

edit: some other rotten bones to chew on. organizations with money will gently caress up a constitutional convention, but here's a hint: it's not the kind Cuomo is thinking of

i didn't do a write-up of Ruben Diaz Sr. but i should, he's a piece of poo poo

get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 00:57 on Feb 8, 2017

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
That's the craziest goddamn thing I think I've ever heard.

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice

get that OUT of my face posted:

it sorta feels like we're at the cusp of a turning point, but we're not there yet. arguably, we were closer before this spat of defections to the IDC. fwiw i heard Stewart-Cousins is a terrible leader and she probably needs to face some sort of backlash for this happening on her watch while she says things decrying it while doing nothing to prevent it. Gianaris probably needs to go too

Gianaris is my state senator, but I don't know a ton about him policy-wise. What's your take on him?

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

unbutthurtable posted:

Gianaris is my state senator, but I don't know a ton about him policy-wise. What's your take on him?

As with most New York dems, it isn't about policy, really; if you can deal with all the other incentives swirling around, he'll generally vote the right way. But as the chair of the state democratic senate campaign committee, he hasn't been particularly effective, nor has he been very good in his role as a member of leadership on the floor. And there's also the fact that he and Klein are at each other's throats over various petty bullshit which has made bringing the IDC home more challenging than it needs to be.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/rmc031/status/829358574379868161

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
I wasn't aware the attorney general had standing to introduce legislation.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
I think he's promoting it at a conference right now - I've seen this from other Democratic AG's though too, for instance this from Jim Hood of Mississippi.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

schneiderman needs to think long and hard about primary challenging cuomo, because somebody needs to

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
back in november i linked to a really great interview the New York Slant, City & State's podcast, did with Schneiderman but it looks like they took it down. he talked about movement building vs. "transactional" politics, a subtle dig at clinton and cuomo.

old link i posted is dead now, i don't see it on their iTunes page either

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

The march on 2/17 (National Strike Day I think?) seems to be the next big protest (if anyone knows of any others, especially with a immigrant/refugee focus, please let me know).

Hope to see as many of you guys and gals out there as possible.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

My friend is attempting to collect all of the activist activities on one page:
http://brokelyn.com/week-activism-know-rights-party/

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Shageletic posted:

The march on 2/17 (National Strike Day I think?) seems to be the next big protest (if anyone knows of any others, especially with a immigrant/refugee focus, please let me know).

Hope to see as many of you guys and gals out there as possible.

Check out Make the Road New York for info on immigrant and refugee rights rallies -- Twitter, Website.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

did i mention how loving much i hate cuomo

https://twitter.com/politicony/status/829415599780593665

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007


so I went back to refresh my memory of how we were stuck with Cuomo:
-so obama told Paterson to drop out
-Cuomo ran unopposed, a la Hillary? I.e. Keeping viable contenders out of the running?
-dude barely wins reelection, 54%
-now he wants to be president I guess and is triangulating the gently caress out of his policies?
-uuuuughghhhhgghggh

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

and he announced his candidacy on the steps of the tweed courthouse. I said to myself "surely that is not named for the infamously corrupt democratic politician boss tweed, of whom I had learned a great deal about in social studies classes stretching back to fourth loving grade"

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
Part of me is hoping that the 2016 election cycle has created a deep resentment for any NY-based politicians

On the other hand they're already trying to promote Chelsea Clinton as the upcoming Savior of the Democratic Party so gently caress

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Tbf gillibrand is actually pretty cool

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Literal Blue Dog Coalition member Kirsten Gillibrand

She's better than Schumer but god she'd be Clinton redux as a presidential candidate and get savagely owned

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Tbf gillibrand is actually pretty cool

nah

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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

She voted against more of trumps cabinet picks than warren and Bernie

Not saying she's got the socialist bona fides that they do but lol if you think she's a conservative senator

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