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zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:
KG wouldn't go into the election with a baked in negative approval rating though.

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Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

She voted against more of trumps cabinet picks than warren and Bernie

Not saying she's got the socialist bona fides that they do but lol if you think she's a conservative senator

LOL if you think this is a good metric.

Like, if I were a senator, I'd probably vote for Carson because 1) he's getting through anyway, 2) I'd rather his benign seeming incompetence than whoever is going to be named instead of him if he fails.

Picking battles is important. Yeah, they didn't manage to knock off DeVos, because the Dems are bad at this poo poo, but I guarantee that they wouldn't have peeled off murk and Collins if there weren't a substantial number of democrats who seemed willing to confirm more 'normal' nominees.

(Basically meaning the defense/foreign policy folks, for the most part, in the case of this administration. I don't like any of them, but they're mostly normal republicans and a republican president deserves to have normal republicans in his cabinet.)

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

gillibrand has gone leftward on some issues since leaving the house for the senate (namely guns), but that still makes her a standard democrat and that's not all that appealing right now

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

CaptainPsyko posted:

LOL if you think this is a good metric.

Like, if I were a senator, I'd probably vote for Carson because 1) he's getting through anyway, 2) I'd rather his benign seeming incompetence than whoever is going to be named instead of him if he fails.

There is absolutely nothing 'benign' about his incompetence, he's in charge of one of the most important social services in America and sincerely believes we should be doing as little as possible to actively help the poor so that they can bootstrap themselves up. He's in position to be one of the most damaging cabinet appointees in this administration and that's loving saying something.

The fact that he gets a pass because of his "aw shucks" friend Ben bullshit is the worst

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

theflyingexecutive posted:

and he announced his candidacy on the steps of the tweed courthouse. I said to myself "surely that is not named for the infamously corrupt democratic politician boss tweed, of whom I had learned a great deal about in social studies classes stretching back to fourth loving grade"

It's NYC DOE's HQ. As someone who does extensive business with the NYC DOE, it is apt that they are HQ'd in a building named after a famously corrupt pol

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

I tried to construct a metaphor for the longest time but couldn't because tweed is the literal textbook example of American political corruption

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

theflyingexecutive posted:

I tried to construct a metaphor for the longest time but couldn't because tweed is the literal textbook example of American political corruption

his ghost roams the halls there. he's still calling the shots.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Tbf gillibrand is actually pretty cool

gillibrand is loving awful bro. source: she was the representative of my district

tonko, the dude what took her place, is actually cool and good, however

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



paul tonko: one of the most liberal members of congress

kirsten gillibrand: actual literal blue dog

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

financially racist posted:

paul tonko: one of the most liberal members of congress

kirsten gillibrand: actual literal blue dog

She's pretty much the worst of both worlds. She loves to pick dumb culture war fights, while carrying the water for goldman sachs and the rest of Chuck Schumer's enablers. Tonko is my rep to, and even though I'm a conservative, i voted for him and believe he's done a good job for us. plus when he was in the assembly, he had an office in Schenectady next to the deli I used to eat at every day, and his office team were very nice.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

theflyingexecutive posted:

so I went back to refresh my memory of how we were stuck with Cuomo:
-so obama told Paterson to drop out
-Cuomo ran unopposed, a la Hillary? I.e. Keeping viable contenders out of the running?
-dude barely wins reelection, 54%
-now he wants to be president I guess and is triangulating the gently caress out of his policies?
-uuuuughghhhhgghggh
you forgot the most important part that comes before all of this: spitzer bought a hooker. one man's horniness ruined us all

i'm facebook friends with a district leader in AD 42, which encompasses Flatbush and East Flatbush. he posted this article about Peralta



one of his facebook friends didn't take it so well

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
Simcha Felder is a special sort of scumbag though.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

CaptainPsyko posted:

Simcha Felder is a special sort of scumbag though.
no argument there, but it's pretty rich that one of the IDC's original members had the nerve to make herself out as blameless. if i lived across the street i'd be in Felder's district

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
I'm finding all of the pro-Chelsea articles unnerving

Also as a Warren fan I think there's some sort of movement growing for her which is cool + good

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

goose willis posted:

I'm finding all of the pro-Chelsea articles unnerving

Also as a Warren fan I think there's some sort of movement growing for her which is cool + good

because MA is an actual blue state and NY is blue in name only

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

theflyingexecutive posted:

because MA is an actual blue state and NY is blue in name only

Reminder that Massachusetts elected Scott Brown before Warren and started us down this poo poo-tactic timeline.

Grass is always greener and all that.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i'd say some western states are more progressive on policy than MA. the Boston area is a good look at how the Dems abandoned working-class politics for white-collar money

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

goose willis posted:

Part of me is hoping that the 2016 election cycle has created a deep resentment for any NY-based politicians

On the other hand they're already trying to promote Chelsea Clinton as the upcoming Savior of the Democratic Party so gently caress

Chelsea should be forever tainted merely from association with the worst thing ever made, even if she had zero involvement in its production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrEmQk3u88U

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Yeah but you're talking about a state whose republican ex-governor has his name on uhc legislation

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

theflyingexecutive posted:

Yeah but you're talking about a state whose republican ex-governor has his name on uhc legislation
lol romney/obamacare isn't UHC gtfoh

vermont and colorado had attempts at achieving something far more accurate to the term "universal health care"

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Romney was a better gov than our democratic govs though

Pretty much no dem in this state deserves an executive position

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Like MA would totally elect a Dem governor every time if the dems would put up decent candidates but lol

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

can schneiderman just announce he's running for governor already

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
"Safe blue states" as a concept needs to end because you will never get anything more than the worst generic establishment Democrats since they can field the same bullshit every election and win by default without any serious opposition because the left-leaning segment of the population figures that things are OK because there's a politician or two with a (D-) in front of their names when they see them on the evening news

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

goose willis posted:

"Safe blue states" as a concept needs to end because you will never get anything more than the worst generic establishment Democrats since they can field the same bullshit every election and win by default without any serious opposition because the left-leaning segment of the population figures that things are OK because there's a politician or two with a (D-) in front of their names when they see them on the evening news
:yeah:

that district leader pissed off a different important facebook friend




i'm not sure whether hamilton's "let's change the subject and talk about the good things i did" post is better than savino's "gently caress you, i'm not the problem" post but it doesn't matter, the results are the same

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Chelsea should be forever tainted merely from association with the worst thing ever made, even if she had zero involvement in its production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrEmQk3u88U

I can't believe this didn't win us the election!


I'm now using this as some sort of masochistic endurance test to see how much I can watch before punching my computer screen.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

update: 2:54 before I tried to close the tab with my fist.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

get that OUT of my face posted:

:yeah:

that district leader pissed off a different important facebook friend




i'm not sure whether hamilton's "let's change the subject and talk about the good things i did" post is better than savino's "gently caress you, i'm not the problem" post but it doesn't matter, the results are the same

gently caress YOU I'M NOT THE PROBLEM was pretty amazing. This is just a pretty boiler-plate rear end cover for a politician who's starting tor realize he backed the wrong horse.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i don't wanna make this thread 100% content about scumbag politicians responding to Josue Pierre's Facebook pages, but Rubain Dorancey said on his nonpersonal page that he won't run against Hamilton again (he lost in the 2014 primary) just because he's in the IDC. i think our only hope might be Bad Momma Richardson

I Am A Robot
Jul 1, 2006

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Chelsea should be forever tainted merely from association with the worst thing ever made, even if she had zero involvement in its production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrEmQk3u88U

I made it 29 seconds.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Nice writeup on Schneiderman's voter access efforts up at The American Prospect

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i've gotten two texts from Jesse Hamilton's office over the past two days accusing Jumaane Williams of being anti-black lives and Kevin Parker of being anti-immigrant, both linking to articles on Kings County Politics written by Stephen Witt. for Parker's part, some procedural bullshit caused his vote on an anti-sanctuary bill to default to "yes," as he was busy officiating a wedding when it happened. i called his office, they took my number down, and Parker himself called me two hours later, saying that if it weren't for GOP control of the state senate, this vote wouldn't have happened. he's not wrong, although he did take a stupid risk by leaving his vote open. he did create the Senate subcommittee for new Americans a while back and held an immigrant rights forum with an assemblywoman and city councilman last week

here's the Parker article. note the glowing praise for Hamilton's courageous stand (in spite of allowing this bill to go to the floor in the first place) and a stupid, baseless comment about how progressives who want him out are "mostly white." Witt just looks he's writing press releases for Hamilton

Jesse Hamilton should eat twenty bags of dicks

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Finally decided to learn some information about my state representative and, well, we're off to a great start.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/no-felony-charge-brooklyn-pol-accused-beating-son-article-1.2942525

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

MizPiz posted:

Finally decided to learn some information about my state representative and, well, we're off to a great start.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/no-felony-charge-brooklyn-pol-accused-beating-son-article-1.2942525
there's a reason why i called her "Bad Momma Richardson" in a previous post, also i hinted at that in the OP

for her part, her big issue is neighborhood affordability and won the special election because she made that the central issue, plus her main challenger, Shirley Patterson, got busted for misusing campaign funds a few months later. she also went to a meeting cohosted by DSA about dealing with a city-owned building being turned into mostly unaffordable condos and thanked them for hosting it. i'd wager most Democrats wouldn't be caught dead at anything hosted by them. so Richardson's far better on the issues than she is as a parent

also, here's a list of the times my state senator has lost his poo poo. she still has a long way to go to surpass him, and i hope this is her last incident

get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 04:33 on Feb 15, 2017

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

get that OUT of my face posted:

there's a reason why i called her "Bad Momma Richardson" in a previous post, also i hinted at that in the OP

for her part, her big issue is neighborhood affordability and won the special election because she made that the central issue, plus her main challenger, Shirley Patterson, got busted for misusing campaign funds a few months later. she also went to a meeting cohosted by DSA about dealing with a city-owned building being turned into mostly unaffordable condos and thanked them for hosting it. i'd wager most Democrats wouldn't be caught dead at anything hosted by them. so Richardson's far better on the issues than she is as a parent

also, here's a list of the times my state senator has lost his poo poo

Thanks for clearing that up.

Centrist Dad
Nov 13, 2007

When I see your posting
College Slice
A big "gently caress off" to the breakaway Democrats in state senate who are for some reason caucusing with the Republicans. I'm talking specifically about the Dominicans from Washington Heights and Inwood. Ethnic politics won't mean anything in four years in those neighborhoods, so good luck in the next election. I've never been so glad about the prospect of gentrification.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
In other news, and I'm sorry if this happens to be a lot of people ITT... but lol at anyone that thinks turnover in the state legislature beyond flipping one or two seats is going to happen short of mass indictments.

You know how congress is super gerrymandered and has an absurdly high incumbency rate? Well wait until you look up the incumbency rate for New York pols...

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

the senate districts in south brooklyn are horrendous. if i lived on the south side of my street, i'd be in Felder's district, and there's a big part that juts up in the middle of Parker's before it goes back to normal. that "big part" is Ocean Parkway where a ton of Orthodox Jews from the ex-Soviet Union live. it's even worse when you go further south, as Savino's district takes up Coney Island and a small sliver of Sheepshead Bay in addition to northern Staten Island

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

Okay, I have read this thread, and this is still not entirely clear to me: if I want to start "getting involved" with specifically Democratic party organizing in Brooklyn in an in-person way, somewhere like this is where to start? New Kings Democrats seems the most active/most open progressive one. Prospect Heights Demorats for Reform seems tiny. And they all seem to be more monthly than weekly or biweekly, though. Is anyone part of a "political clubhouse"?
edit: VVV thanks. Sounds like a reasonable plan.

onefish has issued a correction as of 08:21 on Feb 15, 2017

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get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

NKD has a couple of meetings a month, sign up for their mailing list and go from there

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