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unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

mysterious frankie posted:

The facts that Hillary would be a historic president (not a "might actually blow up the world" historic president like we have now) and I could be reasonably sure how and where I would be brutally hosed for the next 4 years, were the two ameliorating conditions that made voting for her only suck a normal amount.
Obama was historical.

Clinton would have only been historical in a myopic, nationalistic sense. Britain and Canada have already had women leaders, and Thatcher did far more (for better or worse) that Hillary ever would have accomplished.

Although maybe the "It's her turn!" poo poo rings extra-extra hollow outside the States.

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unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

get that OUT of my face posted:

we will never see a show that had such a gap between universal praise from critics and (mostly) indifference from audiences quite like girls ever again. it's the true end of an era

Hamilton is waaay worse.

e.
Strictly in terms of how many people have actually seen it versus how much we're supposed to care about it and love it.

unlimited shrimp has issued a correction as of 14:43 on Apr 18, 2017

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Office Surprise Store posted:

the fact that they actually named it "Problematic" shows that they have no interest in actually making it funny and are just pandering to dipshits on twitter mate

Moshe Kasher was on Joe Rogan's podcast recently and either doesn't think cultural appropriation is a legitimate grievance or he didn't have the balls to defend himself. He said something to the effect of 'cultural appropriation as such is an irrational concept and not a real problem, but the anger directed at it is real and justifiable because of historical injustice"

like he's either a woke bitch or pretending to be one for the money, either way he's boring af when he talks about this stuff

i saw him live a few years ago and i didn't realize he would morph into a hipster blob so quickly

unlimited shrimp has issued a correction as of 02:14 on Apr 21, 2017

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Dapper_Swindler posted:

of course he did. gently caress him. he plays with his partners emotions so he can gently caress around and pretend how cool and brave and progressive he is and how nothing has negative consequences. god i am gonna sound like a moral majority dickhead, but trying to spin hedonism as some cool and progressive thing thats brave feels loving stupid and wrong. if you want to do it fine, but dont bay on twitter about how cool and progressive you are because you use your partner or you getting cheated on and are dumb enough to believe the cheaters lies. this poo poo will have blowback a decade or so from now. free love and all that stuff in the 60s broke alot of hearts and led to the moral majority and people going hard right because they are broken shells and need jesus to fill them up.
Brave is coming out to your conservative parents. There's nothing brave about about being a polyamorous hedonist.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

get that OUT of my face posted:

i'm pretty sure the overwhelming reaction of japanese people towards perceived cultural appropriation is "i don't give a poo poo"

seeding the West with their cultural memes is revenge for the Bomb

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
imagine, if you will, the shitstorm that would come of a movie called "Murder on the Orient Express" being cast with asian people

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
Move to Canada pls

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

i JUDGE her.... unworthy

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
just a little multi-layered magic: the gathering humor for you all

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

comedyblissoption posted:

if you don't like watching a jimmy dore video, here's the medium article some person wrote about how ridiculous these journalists are:
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/establishment-loyalists-spent-yesterday-circulating-blatant-lies-about-glenn-greenwald-64a16a0ef6ed
Whatever else he is, Glenn Greenwald is an opportunist who is no stranger to ripping things out of context to attack strawmen. I'm glad it's happened to him, now.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Crane Fist posted:

one of which doesn't exist outside my head,
Regardless of how you feel about Sam Harris, Glenn Greenwald has misrepresented his ideas and ripped his words from context to attack what I assume he thinks is the "spirit" of Harris's arguments (read: a strawman).

The rest of your post is a poorly constructed joke so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
if we make our video games more egalitarian then it will stimulate systemic change.i call it trickle down social justice

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
i bet if trump looked in the mirror of erised, all he would see is himself

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
There's a whole species of woke that confuses signifier with signified. In Bob Chipman's infant brain, there is a categorical difference between general statements about "white people" and general statements about, say, "black people" or "women" or whatever other victim group he's decided to ally with.

If you assume he's self-aware and that his thinking is internally consistent, then his problem with racist thinking isn't that it enables discrimination against an arbitrarily defined category of people who are racialized without their consent; rather, that the wrong arbitrarily defined category of racialized people is being discriminated against. But more than likely he's an idiot who collects progressive ideas like Boy Scout badges and has no idea why he believes any of it.

He's like an angry high school atheist who thinks that abolishing religion would solve the problem of magical thinking, irrationality, and pattern recognition.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
I like that thread. A poster who claims to have ended up in a psych ward post-election thanked another poster for writing the equivalent of a first draft of a lovely Sorkin speech about the importance of not giving up. It's a cuddly place.

Further down the page, someone apparently made this post in earnest:

quote:

as a coethnic, gently caress off and die

chinese race supremacists like you are a disgrace and do nothing but alienate the rest of nonwhite america

let that post you made stand as a reminder that you and your ilk don't see non-chinese asian americans as anything other than warm bodies for you to talk and walk over

dibs on the forum name "as a coethnic,"

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
In bleak '44, Julius Streicher bends to the task of caricaturing D&D. He later reveals at the Nuremburg trials that he "could not make more grotesque that which had conceived in the shadow of God" and simply reprinted posts in Der Stürmer word-for-word.

He is sentenced to death.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
Well over here in Canada,

quote:

In this regard, it should be kept in mind that discrimination is not usually practiced
overtly or even intentionally. Consequently, direct evidence of discrimination or proof of
intent is not required to establish a discriminatory practice under the [Canadian Human Rights Code]

For you see, such a requirement is too burdensome for civil proceedings as it requires a criminal as opposed to civil standard of proof. It is simply enough to weigh the balance of probabilities and determine that the white man, by virtue of being physical instantiation of the concept of White Supremacy, was almost certainly discriminatory, whether he intended to be or not.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

get that OUT of my face posted:

i'm going to repeat myself but i don't give a poo poo because it's important and needs to keep being said: reproductive rights activists have been fighting for what they've believed in for decades without turning a serious issue into political ComicCon

much to their detriment, says twitter

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

SickZip posted:

The Handmaid's Tale is literally the Turner Diaries for the left.

Day of the Coat Hanger

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
The problem is that we live in a world of finite resources, and you need to pick and choose what gets the focus. Critical theorists and their direct-action counterparts like #BLM create an unwinnable scenario and then complain that their racial justice platform doesn't resonate with the 87% of the country that isn't black. Intersectionality has poisoned activism imo

e.
and to be clear I'm not saying no war but class war, but I think you need to find common cause if you're going to build the kind of political coalition you need to get things done. That common cause isn't going to be a niche identity issue because nobody buys the "[X] justice is economic justice, too!" argument and people need a personal stake in the fight before they're going to show up.

unlimited shrimp has issued a correction as of 22:11 on Jun 26, 2017

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
idk their website contains some pretty stupid principles like "We see ourselves as part of the global Black family and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black folk who exist in different parts of the world" and "We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, and especially “our” children to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable."

As off the deep-end as their Toronto chapter is, you still need a university education and postmodern sensibilities to comprehend and agree with a lot of the "main" platforms beyond what's stated in the name.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
"We are committed to fostering an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, shows up with capacity to lead and learn."

... kinda gives it away that they're spearheaded by some (((privileged))) college kids hepped up on Critical Race Theory who should definitely be taken seriously because ageism is never okay, guys.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Dapper_Swindler posted:

what the gently caress does the last point even mean. what does anti- nuclear family bullshit have to do with taking extended families and neighborhood. i think i know, but i dont want to say it.
idk but here's a pretty good clue that there's a more nebulous ideological underpinning to it than it simply being an obtuse restatement of the tired truism that it takes a village to raise a child:

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Crane Fist posted:

It seems like your argument here is that they're bad because you're too dumb to understand what they're saying

no my argument is that

Crane Fist posted:

BLM['s leadership] is coming from a place of academia and class privilege

because class war is OVER you guys

lohli posted:

This is about fatherless families getting support from the community but the way it's phrased makes it seem like they're talking about the disintegration of the black family somehow being almost an intended act of rejecting of western norms.

I imagine these people are part of some kind of black communist/socialist group.

There's no doubt in my mind that this incoherent platform was put together via the same sort of horizontal democracy that made OWS such a smashing success.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
if you don't understand the hilarious tone-deafness of people who sound like grad school burnouts while complaining about privilege, while advancing a radical left platform under the banner of racial justice, and who let themselves get schooled by Clinton while clowning on Bernie, then perhaps it is you who are the someone that should be mocked in this thread

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Crane Fist posted:

Are we even talking about the same movement here? Black Lives Matter supported Clinton? Stop reading Breitbart you loving clown
i didn't say they supported Clinton i said she schooled them, specifically when a group of BLM activists confronted her and she made them look like a bunch of children.

quote:

Woah what

That username's not ironic is it, you're an actual MAGA chud
yeah you're right sorry
"We are committed to fostering a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking or, rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual unless s/he or they disclose otherwise."
"We are committed to being self-reflexive and doing the work required to dismantle cis-gender privilege..."

real mainstream poo poo right there. real salt o' the earth. straight down the political centre.

you dunce.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Crane Fist posted:

Centrism is poisonous poo poo but gj on trying to discredit the whole loving umbrella of BLM activism because you're triggered by someone somewhere using academic language to try and be inclusive
anyone who has an issue with centrism as such is probably dangerously stupid. also, blacklivesmatter.com/ is a far cry from "someone somewhere"

Crane Fist posted:

Do you mean where that activist confronted her in the diner and she malfunctioned like a robot with a bugged script until they were dragged out
no i meant this video wherein she sounds like the only adult in the room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNjQM0SpFuA

are you referring to this video where she also sounds like the only adult in the room? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqLfvQfuvsA

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
"moderation and compromise are bad" - a goon

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Crane Fist posted:

What exactly is wrong with it though? Like I get that it's pretty fancy language but it's used in service of the noble goal of acceptance and inclusion. What kind of loving idiot objects comes along and goes "well I agree with what you're trying to do but you expressed it incorrectly so I'm out" apart from mindless dead-eyed mass media cowards and disingenuous fucks concern-trolling for a way to bash the queers without coming out and just admitting gays make them uncomfortable?

besides

Jizz Festival posted:

It's an indicator that they're going to focus on academic nonsense with no connection to normal people's lives, idiot.

... what's wrong with it is that it suggests (to me) that they aren't actually interested in communicating with the people they claim to be supporting. they have big ideas and big words for other people with big tuition debts. it's the height of arrogance and arrogance is not a virtue.

more conspiracy-mindedly, it suggests that they are coming from an academic critical theory background which is a morass of stupidity and nonsense, and even if they have nice sounding ideas, god help us if they themselves get to legislate them.

e.

passionate dongs posted:

oh no my brain

yessssssssss

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Crane Fist posted:

BLM isn't about that genderqueer destroy the family thing,
Bullshit.

You can quibble about who or what BLM is, given its decentralized nature, but whoever fashioned those core principles on the main site was not invoking that language to wow the rubes with their fancytalk. You don't use wording like "[w]e are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement" because you want to help families as we understand them, you use that wording because you want to destroy the old paradigm and radically redefine what a family is.

And fine, maybe that's a good thing, but let's speak honestly.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Crane Fist posted:

I think you might be overreacting slightly
maybe

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
You can't judge the validity of #BLM by DeRay Mckesson or the Toronto chapter. In fact, true #BLM has never been tried.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
i believe in two things: victim culture,, and resentment

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
We should have seen this poo poo coming when people started trying to make the Afghanistan invasion more palatable to lefties and doves by saying it was ALSO about women's liberation.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

call to action posted:

Hmm, no, I'm pretty sure that starting the Iraq War for literally no reason is still worse than trying to institute a travel ban. The fact that people even have to say that "Bush was worse than Trump" is so ridiculous it's almost beyond the pale.

Maybe Trump will be worse than Bush. But at this point: bodycount.


Yeah I'm worried he's going to use NK as a way to look strong without realizing it's a no-win scenario

Trump is potentially worse than Bush in the same way every newborn baby is potentially worse than Bush.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

FuriousxGeorge posted:

I would rather
There you go.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

quote:

Two judges said assaults on jurors and courthouse employees, combined with conditions, including the stench of excrement and urine, are creating a frightening atmosphere around the courthouse at Third and James in Seattle.

...

Although cleaning and patrolling the area immediately surrounding the courthouse would not address some of the deep-seated issues faced by denizens of the space, it would send a signal that somebody was paying attention, she said.

She and Rogers asked the county to take immediate steps to clean up the courthouse with a daily power-wash of the surrounding sidewalks, which reek of urine and excrement.

...

Some committee members expressed concern about addressing the symptoms of the area’s problems without getting to the cause. Councilmember Larry Gossett said he didn’t like the idea of power-washing the sidewalks because it brought back images of the use of hoses against civil-rights activists.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
POLL: If it were feasible without causing additional hardship, would you support splitting America down to 323.1 million individual nations?

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." Matthew 6:5

shits old yo, anyone who says it doesn't exist is a hack

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unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

really queer Christmas posted:

"Verily, I say unto thee: Bernie would have won."
Luke 4:20

amen

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