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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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The very concept of superheroes is reactionary, and a just society can't be established in a country that clings to the infantile proto-fascist fantasy they represent -

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Dapper_Swindler posted:

ok matt christment, we will go back to jerking off to pretentious poo poo and being ants and bees.

lol @ buying into the capitalist talking point that not buying lazy garbage for softbrain babies = PrEtEnTiOuS poo poo

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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u wouldnt want to look uncool, right? just buy some more bob the builder merch to prove how hip and with it you are

also buy more merch to plug the gaping hole deep inside you

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Dapper_Swindler posted:

Jesus, I can't tell if it's a joke or not. Sex positive stuff is mix of cool empowerment stuff and weird assholes jerking off about how mindless hedonistic pleasures and kinks are a absolute good thing in excess and must be talked about openly with everyone. I'll take it over sex negative feminists but lol the extreme is creepy. Edit: she apologized. https://mobile.twitter.com/ENBrown/status/887078760796827649

"Apologized"
Sorry I'm usually too woke for u plebs isn't an apology.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Byolante posted:

Some people like their pulp escapism in the format comics provide. Things like Maus and city of glass exist which help prove it's not inherently an artistically bereft medium.

People don't lament the artistic merit of film just because Michael bay is spending a billion blowing poo poo up and filming it.

you are right, the problem isn't with the inanimate medium, it's with the manchildren who keep obsessing about the garbage produced in it and pretending it should be part of public discourse, and it's not limited to this one particular medium - people who watch all the michael bay movies or all the superhero movies and talk about them constantly are awful, too. the difference is that there is actually a substantial number of decent films, and nerd blockbusters are a short trend in the greater scope of cinema history, so reducing "superhero movie fanboys" to just "movie watchers" would be misleading, whereas all but few comic books are of the trashy-guilty-pleasure-at-best variety, so it's safe to make an equation between superhero comic geeks and comic audiences in general.

steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 09:06 on Jul 18, 2017

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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HIJK posted:

isn't he one of those devs that backstabbed his whole team for money when they got bought out?

He was definitely actively hated by his coworkers by the end of his tenure at Mojang, though opinions vary on why that was.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Call Me Charlie posted:

(i think him donating 10k to some nerd charity event only to have the crowd go silent when they read his name followed by people attacking him on twitter for only giving 10k is what pushed him over the edge)

Imho the underlying issue with Notch is his loneliness, and the realization that even adopting the vestiges of liberal values wouldn't make him more likeable and bring him friends just made him give up and embrace the dark undercurrents of his personality, because what does decency matter if it can't address his one true need. The same goes for many other Internet scumbags - realizing that they can't fix their personal problems by naively mimicking the surface behavior of happier people, they sink into misery and nihilism.

steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 22:52 on Jul 21, 2017

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Also the executioner is his mom who keeps nagging him for not positioning his neck correctly on the block.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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the trump tutelage posted:

POLL: If it were feasible without causing additional hardship, would you support splitting America down to 323.1 million individual nations?

And nuke every single one of them

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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I think the white males making a forlorn hope stand against a Nazi horde should check their privilege.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Byolante posted:

I want to know how she copes with actors who have had iconic roles. Like say Sarah Michelle Gellar in cruel intentions vs Buffy vs southland tales.

Typecasting is a thing, Jason Alexander will live and die as George Constanza no matter what.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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got any sevens posted:

riots against a democratically elected socialist = riots against police brutality?
:thunk:

lol

if u can't riot against a leader, he is not democratic, fuckface

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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steinrokkan posted:

lol

if u can't riot against a leader, he is not democratic, fuckface

don't sign your posts

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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This woke movement sure has pitchfork and torch manufacturers rubbing their hands with glee.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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passionate dongs posted:

i fuckin love hate speech

post some of your fave hate speaches

"Capitalism bad"

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Regardless of whether that conversation happened, I enjoy this brave new world where every second of my life can be recorded by some spoiled little brat, and it is me who can be ruined for my private interactions that are entirely disconnected to my job and in no way illegal, and the fuckwit intruding upon my privacy is completely insulated from any harm.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Byolante posted:

The problem is that when these things get violent it's because left aligned mayors tell the police to stand off and let the antifa have their fun. If you don't believe this maybe you should remember the mayor of Berkley is a member of BAMN. Nazi demonstrations starting getting violent in the last couple of years because the police stopped kettling the fash and the blackblock ran roughshod. Now the Nazis are showing up kitted to rumble and instead of 10 on 1 fash stomps we are getting street battles and people dying.

Reap the whirlwind

These radical anarchist-syndicalist mayors are ruining America!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Byolante posted:

Berkley literally became a warzone because the mayor is a black blocker who told the police to not intervene in open street conflict. He literally is responsible for the damage through his actions.

You made it sound like the mayors were in the pocket of big Antifa, which was pretty funny (and the accusations of the mayor of Berkeley being a secret anarcho communist come exclusively from far right sources). Anyway, maybe maintaining a fake, superficial sense of peace and order when there is a clear and deep antagonism isn't productive either.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Byolante posted:

They come from his own facebook but whatevs

Specific links?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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When they reach the point where they are agitated enough to actually, physically travel somewhere to march around and face a pissed off crowd, they are not fake. They are maybe not NAzis, strictly speaking, but they certainly are something, that something is bad, and they are it very genuinely. The fake Nazis post memes on the internet, and when they show up at a far right rally, they get chased away.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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call to action posted:

they're trolls.

Cville was just a pank, bro?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Even if you are right, and they are just doing this to get a rise out of the left - what is, then, the harm in shutting them down and punching some of them for being toxic shits who abuse dangerous ideologies for petty reasons?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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call to action posted:

nah, I think I'm being pretty reasonable. sorry man. we both think the nazi side should go to jail, I just think we should focus on things we should actually change, like policy, instead of trying to beat the racism out of people

These are two things that don't really occupy the same space, they don't compete with each other.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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call to action posted:

...still not explaining why you wouldn't punch cops with the same logic you use to justify punching tiki torch racism squad

lol, do you believe anybody in cspam would protest violence against cops or financiers or sex havers

it would be nice to be able to punch investment bankers and stuff, except they would shoot you for that. The opportunity may yet arise, though, comrade

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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lohli posted:

So do antifa.

Antifa is like a self-defense club. People who learn self-defense would prefer not to have to burden themselves with this sort of stuff (though yeah, antifa organizations can be full of shitheads looking for an opportunity to break things) - but for fascists violence is the organizing principle of society. These two things are not equal.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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lohli posted:

I don't see how antifa attacking trump supporters doesn't fit there, and calling them a self-defense club doesn't really work when the current climate of acceptable political violence is because of them.

Neonazis marching through towns IS violence. They may not be actively beating people up (though they are), but they are spreading fear and a message of hatred, as well as a message that it is OK to act up on this hatred. They are also pitching a battle whenever they congregate (do not imagine the neonazis don't show up expecting to fight, they are ready, and even if the other side blueballs them and doesn't give them an opportunity to fight, that doesn't make them peaceful). They are harming people, and encouraging others to join in in this campaign of hurting others. By engaging them and defeating them, antifa prevents them from gaining an undeserved pedestal, and an illusion that they are undefeated and unchallenged in professing their beliefs.

steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 16:40 on Aug 15, 2017

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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sword_man.gif posted:

i'm not mocking the protest that's fine, just specifically the horcruxes dipshit because stop associating actual real life things with a loving book about wizards

Maybe they will pick up some actual politics by participating ?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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OWLS! posted:

Don't have to pick up politics when you're pretty much the face of the political affiliation. (I'd say movement, but it isn't really a movement per se)

I mean getting surrounded by people with more assertive agendas than Harry Potter might expose the superficiality of the liberal belief system. But realistically confirmation bias will kill off any possibility of learning from an individual event.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Harry Potter is not racist!

*hides the chapters where all Bulgarian wizards are Neandethal savages who can only brute force their way through problems because their brain pans do not allow for proper Anglo-Saxon empiricist approach to problem solving*

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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the trump tutelage posted:

ok so after briefly flirting punching actual nazis and neoconfederates in charlottesville, we're back to treating the sargons of the world like they're aspiring SS commandants. this is good.

OK, let's assume we do not call them literal Nazis anymore. Does this change the way they should be treated? Are the far right marchers who yelled about a Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race mistreated in some way other than being called Nazis?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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the trump tutelage posted:

k it should be trivially easy then to find direct quotes from the aforementioned speakers please go on

if its a question of where you draw the line with regards to free speech then i'd agree it's with people who have actually done something like yell about a jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race, for example, but i'd hope the person who's face is being punched actually uttered that conspiracy and personally endorsed it, and weren't just some MAGA hat wearing chudd who's guilty by association.

people on this dead gay forum want all the legitimacy of punching nazis and white supremacists while simultaneously reserving the right to apply that label to anyone they (dis)like, whether its a conservative jew like Ben Shapiro, a microaggressing professor like Bret Weinstein, or an actual real life hatemonger like David Duke. if that level of intellectual laziness and opportunism doesn't scare you when it's paired with calls for vigilantism and violence against those so-labelled, then it should.

Somebody who went to the demonstration and stayed after the hardliners started chanting their Aryan slogans ARE NOT VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCES. They made conscious choices to associate with explicit Naziism. THey could have left when the fanatics made their declarations to fight the Jewish conspiracy.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Taste the meat, not the hate.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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the trump tutelage posted:

gonna go out on a limb and guess you have a different standard for the people who get swept up in police actions when they keep marching even after black bloc protesters start loving things up at G6 protests or whatever.

people were being labelled nazis for their thought crimes well before any of this poo poo kicked off in earnest (e.g. all the campus protests against people like Milo). "nazi" has been a generic slur that is used against anyone on the Right, or who is insufficiently woke, for a long goddamned time. but now punching nazis is good & encouraged, which means labelling someone a nazi is an incitement to violence against them. this is not an issue when actual nazis and white supremacists are the ones being labelled. but if you're going to argue for normalizing political violence in the limited scope of dispensing with capital-N nazis then you better be loving sure that "nazi" is more than just a weasel word, and that the person you're punching is actually a nazi.

lol, you are a nazi

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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A:"I believe non-white subhumans are trying to replace proper Americans"

B: "Well -- You just don't understand the nuance of my ally's statemenst!"

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Crane Fist posted:

So far today I have spent a full 11 hours not even slightly being a Nazi. Where's my parade?

Obviously you are a perfidious JEW

And I'm not a Nazi for calling you out. I'm merely Nazi adjacent.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Call Me Charlie posted:

There's no way violence can be used against me or the people I support. We're the good guys! *unable to comprehend that Donald J Trump is president and the Republicans hold power in a majority of states* Yup, no way this can backfire.

Personal cowardice is not a good reason to appease Nazis, hth.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Hi, trump tutelage, pls post all the cases of innocent white liberal women getting beaten up thanks to ironic Trump paraphernalia, tia.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Call Me Charlie posted:

Did you miss the guy who was knocked out yesterday at a protest in Boston for being white, bald and having tattoos looking like a nazi? Or the ever-expanding definition of nazi in this thread?

https://www.facebook.com/fusionmedianetwork/videos/1977213872564058/
(the link early in the thread has the actual punch but it's from a lovely source)

We should end prosecuting child molesters because one time a dude was incorrectly accused.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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If somebody called you a Nazi, and you are now trying to "defend yourself" by suggesting other people that haven't been called Nazis should be, then you should probably ponder the crucial differences that led to you being insulted and the other guys not.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Jim Davis, creator of Garfield the Cat

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