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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Fidel Castronaut posted:

have right wing boycotts ever worked?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puppy_Episode

quote:

"The Puppy Episode" and DeGeneres's attendant coming out generated enormous publicity before the show aired. Right-wing groups like the American Family Association pressured ABC to drop the storyline and Ellen sponsors not to advertise; two occasional advertisers, J. C. Penney and Chrysler, decided not to buy time during the episode. Another sponsor, Wendy's, decided not to advertise on Ellen again at all.[13] Despite these losses of potential advertisers, ABC turned away ads from two LGBT-oriented sponsors, the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) and lesbian vacation company Olivia Cruises.[14] Jerry Falwell called DeGeneres "Ellen Degenerate", to which DeGeneres responded, "I've been getting that since the fourth grade. I guess I'm happy I could give him work."[15] GLAAD organized "Come Out With Ellen" house parties across the United States[3] and HRC created "Ellen Coming Out House Party" kits that included invitations, posters and an Ellen trivia game. HRC had initially planned to send out about 300 kits. Deluged with requests, they ended up sending out about 3,000.[14] ABC affiliate WBMA-LP in Birmingham, Alabama, citing "family values", first sought ABC's permission to move the episode out of prime-time to a late-night slot. When ABC declined the request, the affiliate refused to air the episode at all.[16] Local LGBT organization Pride Birmingham arranged for a satellite feed of the episode and rented a 5,000-seat theatre for a viewing party, with about 1,000 people attending.[17] Local activists circulated a petition requesting that Abilene, Texas-area affiliate KTXS-TV not air the episode but were unsuccessful.[16]


They've won a few battles, but have lost the war over all.

Like years later BILL O'REILLY told them to "gently caress off" when they pulled this poo poo on Ellen being a spokesperson for JC Penney..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-2LJD4ZUY

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Fidel Castronaut posted:

Man, a victory twenty years ago and now the woman is one of the wealthiest people in media. They've lost the culture war because there isn't any major company that is going to cater specifically to white evangelical tastes anymore. Demographics just don't make that profitable for global companies.

I'm very glad this has happened.

As much as I find some of the patronizing to customers by some of these companies kinda eye rolling (The Audi Commercial for example. Well meaning, but yeah they don't actually practice what they preach), I'd MUCH rather have it be that we're in this era in which ellen and her network had to deal with that horseshit.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

evangelicals are the christian version of salafists and there is no room for them in a leftist movement

If they'd ditch their anti-LGBT stance and return to their attitudes about abortion pre-1970? Maybe.

But that's going to take a generation or two to kinda fix.

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

passionate dongs posted:


toxic masculinity

That women was awesome.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/attorney-general-nominee-says-hed-consider-cracking-down-on-porn-81358/ It sounds like the right is starting up the culture war again. I am curious how the wokes like Jon Fullmac and bob and others will react.

it's really weird how these people snake into power. I can see the majority of people in this country agreeing with trump for example on quite a few things, yet rejecting the Ted Cruz's of the world.

Do the majority of people in this country see porn as a public threat or something? Like every Trump supporter I've ran into doesn't seem to give a poo poo about it.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/tonyposnanski/status/829847049487126528

I mean...she has her support sure, but I think that's a bit of a stretch.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

bob legit thinks all people who play action/fps games are right wing douce bro facists. what i find funny about this smooth brain is he thinks he is this enlightened radical, when he is just a moron who thinks halo supports fascism.

he reads like he's on the autism spectrum. not hating on anyone that is...but yeah.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/829524371828047874

Welp. Here ya go.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/CounterMoonbat/status/829561364041588741

Principal Anderson from Billy Madison with a few more words.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012


Can we just devote more time to making fun of him?

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/829917232734023680

Like I don't even give a poo poo about his politics. He literally sounds like some sort of phony upperclass intellectual with the way he words this. Holy poo poo.

e: Some more gems

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/829854125609324544

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/829854341955743744

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/829854574898978817

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

how full of yourself do you have to be to write about movies/TV/sports/anything and come to the conclusion that this means everyone wants to hear your political opinions

Especially a guy that looks like he should be featured on "Cliff Yablonski"

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

breaklaw posted:

Gen Flynn in meltdown mode. Probably going to lose his job so:

https://twitter.com/GenMikeFlynn/status/830252689183248384
https://twitter.com/GenMikeFlynn/status/830288255488659457
https://twitter.com/GenMikeFlynn/status/830251784476073985

How crazy is it that in 2017 people defend themselves from accusations of highly illegal acts like breaking anti-espionage laws on Twitter? Social media was a mistake.

I really suspect that we'll see an impeachment/removal from office that would make Nixon's look down right dignified.

I think he really needs to fire Bannon at this point. Not because of Bannon's background (which is poo poo) but because uh...his strategy is really loving up the country right now.

e: The question isn't so much "if", it's going to be "When". Which would be an interesting pool/toxx etc to start up.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

anyone else starting to think we're getting the left wing version of the Tea Party in the near future?

https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/830487618081189889

https://twitter.com/bullriders1/status/830475349804748800

https://twitter.com/coton_luver/status/830434927845838848

https://www.washingtonpost.com/vide...369a_video.html

...

I mean I suppose that's okay considering the right had success with it? I don't know.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

we drat well better, and considering how this is happening in the reddest of red state of Utah, it would be foolish to not pass this opportunity up

it's already happening in New York, where some Democratic state senators are facing heavy fire for helping keep Republican control of the state senate

I like this concept, my hope is that this leads to a lot of wishy-washy democrats getting primaried the hell out.

It's nice to push republicans the hell out. That's fine and can be very good for the country right now, but the real problem I see is the democrats who actively aid Wall Street, their GOP colleagues with dismantling various government programs and institutions.

The sort of people I'm talking about the Pelosi's, the Schumer's...what have you..need to be pushed out or pushed over to the (R) side (where they rightfully belong). My other fear is we'll see a lot of people use it as an excuse to grandstand..but I suppose that's going to come with the territory.

e: THIS is what made the Tea Party effective. They kicked out a lot of Blue Dogs, and then they also would kick a lot of their own moderates the hell out.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Agean90 posted:

The Angry Leftist movement already exists, it's just that's it's been only 3 weeks since trump took office so we're waiting for internal dnc electionsto see how big it'll be.

Itll probably be huge. anyone know how many reps the tea party terrify into refusing to hold town hall meetings within 3 weeks of Obama taking office?

rough timeline from memory IIRC.

The "TEA PARTY" was unofficially started as a Ron Paul movement in 2008. I think there were "protests" against the RNC at the time because they felt they were betraying the values of the :911: constitution from things that Libetarians usually rage about. (to be fair? They did seem to protest against our foriegn policy, and "homeland security", both of which I agree with).

Glenn Beck got a show on the day of Obama's Inauguration and started to kinda become a voice for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeWpKcYnAhg&

It really started to evolve with Rick Santelli went on this rant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA

The earliest "significant" Tea Party rally I can recall was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2baxw_YScxc

Which dates it around April 15 or so. I want to say early March/April was when they were beginning to take power to be perfectly honest. I think the reason why there wasn't just this immediate counter protest against Obama was because Bush was one of the worst, most disliked presidents we had up until that moment and because it was a historically important moment in our country's history.

e: The hatred of Bush was very "universal" in a lot of ways. No one wanted anything to do with him. The right began to see what a waste of times the Iraq wars were at that point, not to mention the economic collapse that happened under his watch.

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

most importantly, they didn't win 100% of the time, but that didn't stop them

They really never did. I think they kinda fizzled out by 2012 or so, but by then? They had gotten the house and senate to flip, so what else was needed? They did ultimately win, and Obama ultimately lost.

He got to be President but really was able to get next to nothing done for the last 4 years.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Grondoth posted:

People getting upset at politicians owns and we should encourage it.

It's a sign that the US is going to survive in spite of whomever the gently caress is in the oval office, yes.

Which is good. I just think that we're going to see some potential comedy out of this along with some perhaps good results.


Anime Schoolgirl posted:

one problem with your premise

it ain't mostly the left wing or liberals protesting chaffetz :unsmigghh:

McMullin fans?

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

some of them might have been

the protest crowd was mostly mormons and other high-functioning sect christians

eh.

I'm not a fan of them, but I think it's great that the GOP could potentially see some major "fracturing" in the days ahead. Frankly the two party system has been a failure.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

this. he is full of himself. he is one of those sad loving nerds who is a sad brain judgmental sack of poo poo and wants to be "reconized for his genus." but he isnt that smart. he just adds big words to WOKE opinions and adds his own elitism twist to it. he wants to be respected for being a fat almost 40 year old who jerks off to nintendo.

I'm not immune to meltdowns, I'll own up to it. People freak the gently caress out. There's a lot of anxiety running around this country. poo poo happens, etc. Christ I'll even admit I freak out over poo poo that inevitably is irrelevant on the broader scale.

With that being said? The Meltdowns and Nerd Rage from people like Patton and Moviebob is bordering on unhealthy.

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/830436713201758208

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/830435139574304768

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/830433755181363200

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/830426644422627328

It's like Trump broke a lot of people's brains or something.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

CrumFUNist! posted:

Piers Morgan really is a vile sack of poo poo though and deserves bad things to happen to him.

oh no doubt, I'm just saddened I'm seeing him get the best of people right now.

It's like "God, Patton. You were one of the people that helped me get away from republican beliefs. You're better than this".

Dapper_Swindler posted:

oh i understand. I am worried as gently caress about trump and the alt-right. and i also am happy for the most part the left has been sorta backing off the WOKE/culture wrongthink poo poo, because that helped get us to trump town. to be fair, bob has been doing it since it was popular to be woke in the video game community.

also i saw this. http://www.vulture.com/2016/12/the-walking-deads-fascism.html
its amusing. i can understand it but i dont see it showing facism as cool. i mean i like negan because he is the only person who shows any kind of passion or emotion in that poo poo show. its like palpatine in episode 3. my issue is alot of these think pieces want to make everything wrongthink.

Bob has...some unresolved issues it looks like. I think the tl;dr of his life was that jocks in HS kicked the poo poo out of him and he's never gotten over it.

I'm a bit disappointed in Patton and a few others because they were a major influence in shaping my political views growing up. It was guys like him, and David Cross that really introduced me to a lot of topics that I had never really considered growing up in a :911: republican household. "huh. The war IS bullshit. This guy was able to tell it to me with a joke. that's rather refreshing"

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Guy Goodbody posted:

Those posts are super weak burns. Being mean to Piers Morgan is always good. Those two facts are not contradictory.

Yeah. That sums up my feeling on the matter quite well.

edit: Here. Have MovieBob advocating for Eugenics, IQ Tests for voting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URC1zEy3d78

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/830753910268755968

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/830754278562209792

how is that person worse, bob?

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

i wouldn't say arthur chu fits either profile

Arthur Chu's meltdown when being interviewed by David Pakman fills my heart with glee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=098t08Ow6TQ&

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Al! posted:

i dunno wtf ur talkin about but the framing job ur doin here makes me feel like rolfe was mad about ladybustin and patton was defensive about ghostwomen and so they had a big pissy twitter slapfight and everyone who took sides walked away feeling Not Even Mad In Fact Theyre The Mad Ones??????!!!

am i close???

I think that's accurate.

I don't know. I found a few goonettes and female geek friends of mine who were over the moon over the new Ghostbusters. It's not my cup of tea (nor was the original to be honest), but I'm happy they were happy about it.

I don't know why the likes of Patton and others really give a poo poo about people not wanting to see a movie. Feels like for every couple of Rolfes, Amazing Atheist's (can I insert a banana reference here?) and others? You had a lot of girls who were really enthusiastic about it. So why care?

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i know. it probaly did do it. like I feel bad for him, because he is still funny, he has just become kinda of a dickhead.

People handle grief differently.

I don't quite know if his wife's death caused him to become the type of guy who just rages out at Piers Morgan to be honest. It's a possibility though.

I feel bad for the guy. I saw my dad have to raise two kids after losing his wife, and to see Patton have to raise a daughter? Well yeah...that would loving suck.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/830923187479277568

e: There's a comedy goldmine from these people as well. I think there's a shared loathing of this sort of person. Doesn't matter if you voted Hillary, Bernie, Trump...whatever. You hate people like this.

Let's unite as a country and make fun of these idiots together.

https://twitter.com/bradisterrific/status/830652676765532165

https://twitter.com/JohnLockesKnife/status/830647541192605697

https://twitter.com/crushingbort/status/830872979504513024

https://twitter.com/YeaYouRite/status/830634973501747200

https://twitter.com/MrDuckstep/status/830865937427525633

(This isn't a political piss fight. i don't care who these people voted for, I just like making fun of them. If someone has Bernie supporters acting the same way, in the same position? By all means post them and let's laugh together. )

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

these people are fools and why i hate IDpol dumbasses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAbOlNemzFA&feature=share
though i dont care for tulsi because she likes assad. i get her reasoning, but gently caress that dickfuck monster.

https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/830956215618244609
https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/830957921613721600
lol.

I think what bothers me is that the people that say this stuff often (ironically) seem to come from a place of privilege. To see someone who is so white they look like they should be in a propaganda poster for the third reich ranting about "White Supremecy", while enjoying the ability to make money as a result of their own privilege (be it race, be it the class that they came from) kinda speaks to their idiocy.

I've had feminist/social justice friendly professors for example, that taught me a lot. It was never from a place of being condescending and they were very open to people asking questions about for example "Why the Cleveland Indians logo is racist". They never held a weird grudge against someone, and were able to explain it in a way that was more encouraging.

It's more so a personal anecdote, but I appreciate them for introducing me to perspectives I'd have never considered otherwise. I'm sure that there are also goons here or other peeps that would educate people on various topics if someone genuinely wanted to engage in a discussion about it.

I don't think it's so much that Id. Pol is the problem, as is this the sort of people that have hopped on the bandwagon to try to champion it's cause.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Al! posted:

if they are so feminist, why are they wearing clothes either????????????? check mate, cucked feminazis

I do have a question about that.

Why am I seeing some feminists wear hijabs recently as an act of defiance? I'm not asking this from a place of being a condescending "FEMINAZIIS AMI RIGHT?", but rather I'm sincerely confused.

Is it a show of solidarity with immigrants and others?

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Al! posted:

im sure its primarily to show solidarity but i doubt its very many non-muslim women. the hijab has a complicated place in feminism and its not quite as straightforward as wear hijab = bad feminist (as opposed to something like the burka, but im sure cases have been made for even that garment)


that said, im sure there's enough affluent white women on twitter and facebook doing it just for appearances to harvest some hot takes from

Bolded part? Yeah I'm getting that vibe for the latter as well.

I recall learning some interesting defense of Iran and how women are treated within their state from a feminist professor I had. Something to the effect of as a society, they felt things were fine, and kinda preferred it to the western version of feminism. (I believe they're not allowed to play sports in front of men, was one of the things..if I am incorrect? I apologize. My memory is fuzzy.).

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

R. Mute posted:

i assume it's because islamophobes often disingenuously use feminist language to argue against islam, especially wrt the hijab. in actuality, most forms of feminism (aside from liberal feminism but who cares about them) aren't against hijabs. it's ultimately all about women's choice. and even if these women are being forced into wearing the hijab, banning them from public spaces or altogether would ultimately harm these women more when the fines target them or when they're forced (by both male influence from within their religious community as well as by the legislators enacting these laws) into staying out of public life.

feminists generally consider the situation to be one of those fight the disease not the symptoms type of deals. and the disease is patriarchy, obv.

so yeah, it's maybe a statement about that.

A good and quality post.

Thanks muchly.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/CNNent/status/831257897589948416

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Al! posted:

i think the real question is why either of them are still winning any grammys at all

You dislike them both too?

https://twitter.com/deray/status/831095565148631040

Also, does anyone have the graphic where he was sponsored by Well Fargo to give a speech?

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah it went to poo poo. i am curious how bad this poo poo will get.

http://occupywallstreet.net/story/explaining-white-privilege-broke-white-person

the article isnt as bad as most. but throwing academic terms and theories about how he/she should feel bad because a rich black person has it worse off in some areas, while said poor gently caress is barely scraping by feels and might not be able to feed their kids or find a job is lovely.

I think the problem I see from a lot of these articles is that they do in fact come from WASPs that come from relatively "privileged" backgrounds, and I think the concept of growing up in poverty is somewhat lost on them.

What (sadly) winds up making you more akin to wanting to help out the poor and disenfranchised is having to have to go through rough times yourself. Not being able to find health insurance...struggling to feed yourself, your family...not finding work..stuff like that.

It's not a right or a left thing. I've seen guys like Bill Kristol say stuff eerily similar to what was posted above for example. Rather it seems to be an issue of class.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

adele has a great singing voice that she wastes by singing exclusively about her boyfriend breaking up with her years ago

somebody already posted a tweet, here or somewhere else, where an identity-focused neolib dem lumped in ellison with "white supremacist" democrats that just so happen to be progressive. that's only going to increase over the next 10 days

I think the thing that sucks about neoliberals who are in high places is that they really gently caress over the good will of a lot of the people who are truly out to help out others.

Like I doubt that a lot of Hillary supporters were against the sort of policies that say someone to the left of Hillary was for. A lot of us were on the same page pre-election 2016 on quite a few things. The problem with these politicians, media figures and what have you is they take advantage of people wanting to be compassionate and often times stab them in the back as a result.

It creates division and for what? So that things can remain the status quo?

I sincerely doubt that someone who voted for HRC in the primary would even remotely fall into that category, and I'm sure there will be a few goons ITT who can confirm it to me.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Spinning Robo posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/business/pewdiepie-youtube-disney.html?_r=0

people who are nazis:
a gay jewish dude
a Swedish youtuber
a half iranian youtuber

people who are not nazis:
a fat dumpy dude who literally advocates eugenics

I think someone kinda nailed it a while back...that you're giving these dweeds wayyyyy too much credit by calling them nazis.

Now are their shitheads from pol that do horrible poo poo like doxx people and say horrible poo poo? Yeah. That's not a question...and I think we need to look into combating this problem somehow. That being said...goddamn, what a bunch of dorks.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/832011012018728960

gee thanks for giving me a reason to tune into a show I either groan at or don't bother to watch, Jeremy.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Al! posted:

fine but youre only hurting yourself

eh, on 2nd thought maybe I'll just wait till it pops up on youtube, but the point still stands.

smacking down guys like Milo, Piers Morgan should be like shooting fish in a barrel quite honestly. I don't understand this mindset. Christ Milo's claimed things like that historically "lesbians were never a thing". That's just an easy thing to pick off and run for a touchdown, yet people don't just nail him on that.,

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

BexGu posted:

Of course he doesn't! But doesn't mean his poo poo can't be knocked around. Check out how Van Jones handles a dude from Infowars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO-0i6jWe1U

Van Jones is pretty awesome.

After the election where he had the "Whitelash" comment, he actually interviewed people that voted for Trump to better understand them. Not a lot of his collegues in the mainstream press bothered to do that. To me that shows his character is a quite a bit better than a lot of mainstream dems right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU_y4z0dmaQ

We really could use more guys like him with mainstream access.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

i was gonna ask why the hell anyone should even watch Real Time but apparently it was responsible for Jim Jeffries telling Piers Morgan to gently caress off

speaking of which, the guy who wrote a defense of civility against Jim Jeffries can also gently caress off

Ripping on Piers Morgan should be encouraged.

Jeffries did it a helluva lot better than Patton has been doing.

also Peter Dacau tears.

https://twitter.com/SusanSarandon/status/832073616346980354

It's time we as a country unite and make fun of shitheads like Dacau, Deray, Piers Morgan and others.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

turning beyonce into this goddess like figure annoys the hell out of me.

I really wish some of the motown/rn'b types were getting the sort of worship back in the day...seriously people like Aretha, Laballe, Summers, and Ross were loving amazing. I'm sure I'm just scratching the surface of awesome women in that genre too.
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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

not a single thing that bad_dominicana has ever tweeted, said, or shat out can be described as "accurate." also i hate the mealy-mouthed criticism that the word "mediocre" entails. just say it sucks, don't beat around the bush

https://twitter.com/bad_dominicana/status/832415579659173892

https://twitter.com/bad_dominicana/status/832412109292072969

Some of this reads like a parody.

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