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Dec 24, 2012

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consumed by normies posted:

thats the dumbest thing about the liberal tears thread posters, theyre terrified of the rest of this subforum because they think were a bunch of hillarymen when those types have been relegated to shamful exile in d&d or, in fallen hamprince's case, a desperate need for more shame

The fact that all the worst posters left on November 10th is the one way Trump actually did make America great again.

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Lol

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Plutonis posted:

Indeed, having the man who murdered his mother raising him can do a number on your head.

Having Patton Oswalt's genes can also do a number on your head. At least in terms of its shape. That poor girl.

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call to action posted:

You'd kinda think justice for immigrants would involve raising their wages, but somehow it only ever involves ensuring they've got access to all the chattel slave-like day labor they can do. Hmmm....

🤔

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

mixed. jon is dumb gently caress with lovely ideas that he stupidly went public about in the worst way. and then sorta doubled down. if a company wants to toss his rear end because of it, i can believe that. that being said i do feel bad for him.

I do feel sorry for him just because Banjo Kazooie has been his favorite game his whole life and now he's being told to gently caress off by its creators.

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The part where he stares at the camera and his eyes get bigger for a second freaked me out lol

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Crane Fist posted:

Ghostbusters is not as good as you remember it being

Yeah but the new one's still dogshit.

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I give Notch a break because he's autistic, and tweets like that make perfect sense in that context.

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Ah poo poo

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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

It's a dude taking a break from running interference for Putin and Assad to make fun of other, more famous people running interference for the DNC's special brand of idiocy.

Holy poo poo, look how Russian his eyes are

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really queer Christmas posted:

As JEB! is led to the guillotine he feels a deep sadness in his heart. "Slow and steady...you know" he wistfully remembers. As his head is placed into the machine, his eyes well up with tears unable to believe what is happening. he musters every ounce of strength he has as he mutters "Please...Clap"

The crowd gathered around gives in to his request as the blade strikes true and the people...they clap for Jeb!

JEB! is a far-left anarchist now so I don't see him being guillotined.

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MaxxBot posted:

You don't need full socialism, just some actual loving popular policies for once rather than just carrying water for the donor class. I would like the parties to move left too but first and foremost they need to stop being glorified pass-throughs for rich assholes.

There is a large set of policies that have bipartisan appeal but they're never put on the table by either party because the donors and rich multinationals say no.

Yep. There's some policies where the difference in public support vs. congressional support is staggering. Universal healthcare, net neutrality, importing prescriptions, indiscriminate surveillance, weed legality, fixing the deficit with higher taxes on the 1%, and of course, the All-Father, campaign finance reform.

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Been trying to figure out exactly why the #resistance is so obnoxious, I think it's got something to do with how performative it is. At least that's my best guess for why I stopped this video ten seconds in.

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Byolante posted:

Be careful, the 'virtue signaling isn't real' people stalk the forums looking for wrong think.

Well I also hate the phrase virtue signalling because it so often implies people only do good things to look good.

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FuzzySkinner posted:

I find myself frustrated with people who I am (idealogically speaking) aligned with, but disagree with them on things related to that manner.

Matt Christman for example, was talking about how the collapse of the Soviet Union was a bad thing for the people there (Lower life expectancy, lower quality of living), and I just really couldn't disagree more. While perhaps statistically that may be true? The Soviet Union was a very flawed state, and the people their deserved greater freedoms. (The flip side? We deserve a higher life expectancy, higher quality of living)

R.L. Stephens and others in the DSA are discussing the elimination of the police, jails. While I understand their perspective, again? Couldn't disagree more. (If the discussion is related to eliminating and then replacing them with a better run system? I think I'd be on board with that).

I don't know if that makes me a bad lefty though. I feel on board with a great percentage of what they're about, but it feels like there's some rivers I just cannot cross.

edit: It's not that I find these people "bad". Quite the opposite, I actually admire them, but there's just these bumps in the road I'm noticing.

Yeah how the hell would you eliminate police and jails. What does that even mean.

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Jeb! Repetition posted:

Yeah how the hell would you eliminate police and jails. What does that even mean.

Okay I looked up the DSA statement on abolishing police and prisons and they really are just stupid as gently caress. Go to about halfway through the article to see what I mean.

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MaxxBot posted:

Wouldn't simply disarming the police dramatically reduce the numbers of deaths without the same number of negative consequences?

In the absence of police the number of people who would go full Dahmer would be low but you'd bet that petty theft and assault and such would be absolutely rampant.

That doesn't work in a country where gun ownership is not only legal but a protected right. You'd probably have the same number of deaths but it'd be police instead of civilians.

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really queer Christmas posted:

seems like the problem is solved then imo

No, because it's not fair or practical to ask our public servants to just throw themselves to the wolves, and it'd lead to increased use of a separate military police like in Brazil. Who'd be even less accountable than our police forces now.

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FuzzySkinner posted:

But again, this is a far more productive conversation than what we see out of Democrats and Republicans.

It's why while I disagree with it completely? I'd rather have this conversation than with someone who wants to buddy up with the far right on these types of issues.

I kind of know what you mean. Even though I think anarchists and tankies are ridiculous I still feel like they're more courageous and have their hearts in a place closer to right than centrists do.

really queer Christmas posted:

I was obviously joking and do agree it's bad. But I would at least rather simple patrol dudes to not have a handgun and only have a long arm in the car to at least make sure only veterans having 24/7 access to a gun. This may not be feasible everywhere and every city, but it would at least drop some civilian casualties and force an officer to think about pulling the weapon out.

Mm, maybe.

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Despite most of it being bullshit about reaction images it does contain a reference to an actual case of digital blackface, which is where a white woman made a Facebook Profile named LaQueeta Jones to defend somebody having a party on a slave plantation, and it's literally one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen.

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FuzzySkinner posted:

That whole movement has been snowballing into absolute poo poo lately.

I've just been waiting for the moment when vast swaths of the population go "no. gently caress this. I want to have fun", and then we see these people go away.

Uh isn't that Trump being elected

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FuzzySkinner posted:

https://twitter.com/amjoyshow/status/893860488781508608

These people are just wanting to get their asses kicked in 2018 and 2020 do they not?

Howard Dean endorsed the lib dems over labour

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FuzzySkinner posted:

https://twitter.com/chelseahandler/status/894384283229364224

I agree Chelsea. That's why I think it's time you stop using a hispanic-american actor with dwarfism as comic relief.

hypocritical piece of poo poo.

I disagree, because we're the land of the free and not an authoritarian heap like Germany.

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Crane Fist posted:

Are you serious

Yeah. We have better-protected speech than Germany does. The tweet even gave an example of it.

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FuzzySkinner posted:

So uh

https://twitter.com/eclecticbrotha/status/896327115821518849

Yeah. The libs doing this need to be told off now after what happened today

That tweet has some of the worst conversation I've ever seen in the replies, and that's saying something.

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Taintrunner posted:

Let me explain it to you in as simple as terms as possible. Nazis are literally the exception that proves the rule when it comes to defending free speech rights, because they are the political project who seek to do little more than take it away from as many people as possible, through means of violence and oppression. America literally put young men on boats and sent them across the Atlantic to shoot Nazis in the head not a century before.

Nazis, which is what these people idolize, seek to be, and for all intent and purposes are, have an outspoken belief in violent oppression, and are absolutely a tool of right wing neofascist conservatives like Ted Cruz to point at and go "oh not me nuh uh I'm not that bad" while turning around and proposing violent patrols of Muslim communities. They are, quite simply, the only group that is not entitled to assembly, because they seek to take that right away from literally everyone else that does not look like them.

So you're okay with taking away civil liberties, but only from groups that want to take away civil liberties. Shouldn't you want your own taken away too then? 🤔

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Taintrunner posted:

normal brain: crush fascists
enlarged brain: only defend others from fascists
planet brain: leave fascists alone
galaxy brain: opposing fascists is fascism
universe brain: defend fascists online

I'm defending civil liberties, not fascists.

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Taintrunner posted:

You're defending the people who want to take civil liberties from everyone else, so no, you're attacking civil liberties.

No, I'm opposed to Nazis taking away civil liberties, just like I'm opposed to you doing it.

Taintrunner posted:

Spineless liberals

As opposed to the brave, brave people who are so terrified of talking they want to make it illegal. By the way I am a leftist and I'd fight for leftist civil liberties at least as hard as everybody else's.

Taintrunner posted:

There is no need to defend fascists or their rights, as time and time again this has never led to an epiphany where they realize they should stop supporting a political movement based on violent oppression of the marginalized. A fascist can stop being a fascist any time they like. The Jews never got to stop being Jews, even as the Weimar liberals handed the state over to fascists with an openly stated hatred of their identity. That is the difference you are refusing to understand.

Uh yeah, that's why being a fascist is bad and being Jewish isn't. But the point of civil liberties extending to fascists isn't to persuade them, it's first to keep liberties universal so that dissent can exist (and the arbiters of good and bad speech, even if they agree with you now [which they don't] won't forever) and second so that fascists will out their horrendous ideas where you can see them and counter them in an actually meaningful way, instead of staying hidden and spreading them unopposed.

Jewel Repetition has issued a correction as of 19:32 on Aug 14, 2017

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Trumps Baby Hands posted:

so what about the ACLU, who have been defending neo-nazi marches (including this specific march) for decades? are they "on the side of nazis" or "defending facists" by ensuring these rallys happen?

Some dumbasses have been saying exactly that in the Trump thread.

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