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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jimmy making fun of liberals crying about the muslim ban but not being outraged when we're literally bombing them and in some cases causing the refugee crisis in the first place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEAilxj80UY

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

x-posting
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/317770-sanders-reopens-dem-primary-wounds

liberals crying about sanders criticizing biden's endorsement of perez

quote:

The DNC campaign changed this week after Biden endorsed Perez for chairman. Sanders let loose, saying that it’s time to move beyond the “failed status-quo approach” of Biden and Perez.

The remark has elicited a furious response from Perez’s supporters, who accuse Sanders of relitigating his Democratic primary fight with Hillary Clinton when the party needs to unite behind a new leader.

Sanders's critics are firing back, noting that he isn't even a member of the Democratic Party.

“It is very concerning that Bernie Sanders is so intent on taking over a party that he’s not even a member of that he’d insult the beloved vice president — and really the president — about a failed status quo approach,” said Texas Democratic chairman Gilberto Hinojosa, a Perez supporter and one of 447 DNC members who will vote in late February to elect the next chairman.
...
For many Democratic operatives, though, the “failed status-quo” remark was an ad hominem attack typical of Sanders, one that evoked bitter memories from the primaries.

“The DNC forums and these campaigns for chair have all been about unity, unity, unity, and Bernie put out a different message,” said one Clinton ally. “He’s opening these old wounds and it looks to me also like his ego is at play. Perez and Ellison are cut from the same progressive cloth. Either one would be a strong leader.”

Jamal Simmons, a Democratic strategist whose firm handled communications for one of the DNC chairman forums, noted that Sanders can join the Democratic Party but has repeatedly declined.

“He doesn’t get to set the standard for a party he’s not a member of,” Simmons said. “It’s up to those 447 longtime members of the party. If he’d like to have a vote, he should join the Democratic Party. We’d love to have him. The truth is we can’t win without the Bernie wing, but we also can’t have someone who is just a voice for Bernie Sanders. The lines are not that clear. There is overlap.”

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Rahm Emanuel: Too many Dems care more about being right than winning

quote:

As he did last month at an event in Washington, D.C., the mayor expanded on what he believes is the road map back to power for his party — putting moderate candidates such as veterans, football players, sheriffs and business people up in Republican districts, picking battles with Republicans, exploiting wedges within the GOP and fighting attempts to redistrict Congress on partisan grounds.

But this time he didn't hold back on his frustration with some of his fellow Democrats.

"Winning's everything," he said. "If you don't win, you can't make the public policy. I say that because it is hard for people in our party to accept that principle. Sometimes, you've just got to win, OK? Our party likes to be right, even if they lose."

the dems are at the lowest mark theyve been politically across the country in a century

winning! :thumbsup:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/emanuel-prescribes-rx-for-fellow-democrats-take-a-chill-pill/

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

I'm mocking your interpretation of that tweet
ah yes using their senate majority to confirm cabinet appointments is totally #RiggedCabinet

this is even dumber for democrats to complain about when you consider the context that the senate democrats are the loving ones who removed filibusters for cabinet appointments

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.0d745a2a537f

quote:

A little over three years ago, Senator Mitch McConnell stood on the Senate floor and issued a warning to the Democrats who then controlled the majority.

“I say to my friends on the other side of the aisle, you’ll regret this,” McConnell, then the minority leader, told them. “And you may regret it a lot sooner than you think.”

At the urging of Majority Leader Harry Reid, Democrats had just voted along strict party lines to change the rules of the Senate, deploying what had become known in Washington as “the nuclear option.” McConnell and his Republican colleagues were furious. Under the new rules, presidential nominees for all executive-branch position—including the Cabinet—and judicial vacancies below the Supreme Court could advance with a simple majority of 51 votes. The rules for legislation were untouched, but the 60-vote threshold for overcoming a filibuster on nearly all nominations was dead.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Chokes McGee posted:

lol if you think that wasn't going to happen the nanosecond the Republicans had an advantage just lol
this is a stupid comment, because the republicans had not invoked the nuclear option for cabinet positions in previous republican administrations with republican majorities in the senate.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

crazy cloud posted:

it is my understanding that they did not need to invoke anything for these cabinet positions because the democrats already lowered the threshold for cloture to 50 in order to approve Obama's cabinet.
this is what "invoking the nuclear option" means in regards to filibuster. the democrats invoked it and now it's the standard. now they're crying tears now that this standard is being used against them.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

cnn cuts off sanders after he jokes about cnn fake news
https://vimeo.com/203535300
corncob news network

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

reminiscent of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57qTegcMT3g

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

if only there was some movement with huge amounts of energy with gigantic rallies that was literally grass roots people throwing over a hundred million dollars into progressive causes that the democrats could have embraced

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

actually most importantly the tea party only threatened the gop establishment politicians but not their donor base

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Baloogan posted:

It would be realllllly entertaining if all the seats the herbal tea party primaried went red
pushing for progressive causes that might actually enthuse people will not be acceptable to the dnc so of course it's going to be a complete failure

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

democrats whine about bernie calling them out for killing the drug reimportation amendment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hta3t8k1aQ

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/319345-schumer-tries-to-keep-the-peace-as-sanders-speaks-out

quote:

Schumer tries to keep the peace as Sanders speaks out

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) is trying to keep the peace in the Senate Democratic Caucus, as Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) aggressive effort to push the party left is giving some colleagues heartburn.

The Senate minority leader convened a meeting last month between Sanders, a liberal stalwart, and a group of Democrats Sanders criticized for voting against an amendment he co-wrote to lower the cost of prescription drugs by allowing their importation from Canada.

One lawmaker described the atmosphere in the room as “frustrated.”
Sanders’s colleagues complained about an interview he gave to USA Today, a newspaper with the nation’s third-highest circulation, in which he said some Democrats lacked “guts” because they were unwilling to stand up to the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, one of the most influential associations in the nation’s capital.

He said it was “disappointing” that 13 Senate Democrats didn’t “stand up to powerful special interests like the pharmaceutical industry.” His public comments were especially offensive because Schumer tapped Sanders to serve on his leadership team in November, appointing him to serve as chairman of outreach.

Reaching out to rile up activists against fellow Democratic senators, however, is not what the leader had in mind.

“You cannot do that if you’re in the leadership,” said one senator who did not approve of Sanders’s tactics and requested anonymity to speak frankly.


Democrats who voted against the amendment said it would not have imposed adequate safety standards for imported drugs. The group of 13 Democrats included Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Jon Tester (Mont.) and Mark Warner (Va.).

Meanwhile, a dozen Republicans backed Sanders’s measure, including Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas), Chuck Grassley (Iowa) and John McCain (Ariz.).

Sanders told colleagues at the meeting that he did not intend to inflict any political damage but declined to apologize for his policy positions, according to a source familiar with the meeting.

New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker (D), who hails from a state that includes many drug companies, suffered the biggest backlash. That immediately prompted speculation that Sanders and the amendment’s lead co-sponsor, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), might have been motivated by future presidential political considerations.

Booker and Klobuchar are viewed as two possible presidential candidates in 2020, and Sanders, who is 75 years old, hasn’t ruled out another run after losing the 2016 nomination to Hillary Clinton.

Democratic sources say Schumer convened the meeting not only to salve rankled feelings but also to send a message to the Vermont senator: Play nice with others.

Sanders declined to comment on the meeting when asked about it by The Hill but noted that he is working with colleagues on new legislation intended to reduce drug costs, and he plans to introduce it soon. However, sources say he seemed chastened afterward. One Democratic senator said Sanders kept relatively quiet at the next two caucus meetings, where he is usually a voluble presence.

Democratic aides say Sanders is trying to fit into his new role as a powerful influence on Capitol Hill who has the ability to mobilize millions of supporters of his 2016 presidential campaign.

Schumer was careful not to create the impression that Democrats were ganging up on Sanders. He invited fellow liberal Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) to sit in on the session, even though Merkley really had no part in the tiff.

The situation was made more awkward by the fact that Sanders is not a member of the Democratic Party, even though he caucuses with Democratic senators.

Schumer has had to walk a fine line this year, as Democrats are running for reelection in 10 states that President Trump carried in last year’s election — five of them by double digits.

Schumer wants to give lawmakers in those states flexibility to vote their conscience without upsetting the party’s liberal base, which wants to see Democrats in Washington fight Trump over just about everything.

There are early signs that liberal activists are prepared to pummel lawmakers who cooperate with Trump and that those who do could face primary challenges. Protesters drowned out liberal Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) at a town hall meeting two weeks ago, yelling “Just say no!” and “Obstruct!” after he voted to confirm Mike Pompeo, Trump’s pick for CIA director, The Associated Press reported.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is beloved by the party’s base, has even taken some heat for supporting Ben Carson as secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

Liberal filmmaker and activist Michael Moore warned this month that Democrats who vote for Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, will likely face a “true progressive” primary challenger in the future. This has created a climate of anxiety in the Democratic caucus as some fear a wrong vote on Trump’s agenda could spur candidates to challenge them from the left in the midterms.

The key to avoiding internecine warfare is to keep Sanders, along with other prominent liberals such as Warren, happy — or at least persuade him not to attack Democrats as Republicans-lite, Senate Democratic sources say.

Schumer has adopted stronger rhetoric since the day after Trump’s Election Day victory, when he was talking about finding common ground with the incoming president.

The Democratic leader has also embraced Sanders’s calls to hold rallies around the country protesting the repeal of ObamaCare.

Schumer helped Sanders organize pro-ObamaCare rallies around the nation on Jan. 15, which a senior Democratic aide touted as a major success. On Saturday, the two called for another round of events nationwide.

One Democratic aide said there’s a feeling, however, that Sanders is roping Democrats into sponsoring legislation and attending events that may not be at the top of their priority lists. While polls show approval for ObamaCare increasing, holding a public rally to tout the controversial law may not make the best politics at this time.

Sanders argues that if Democrats take a strong stand behind proposals that help the working class, the politics will work out favorably.

But playing a little hardball with colleagues may help get Sanders what he wants. Booker is working with him on the new legislation to reduce drug costs by allowing for importation.
:qq:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Honestly they (i.e. democratic politicians) probably do get it. They just want to continue the same crony politics that have enriched themselves and their donors. Progressive politics undermines this, so what's even in it for them? They're basically crossing their fingers that the farcical pendulum of american politics will swing back their way to save them from their current corncobbing.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Also if the democratic party ever starts embracing progressive politics, almost the entire wealthy donor class and their control of the media is going to be arrayed heavily against them. They would lose all their current patronage and would have to rely on crowdfunding.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

losing with literally a 2:1 spend advantage against loving donald trump might lose them their patronage anyways

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Byolante posted:

The problem with relying on the army to preserve your power is when you send them to put down the uprising and they realise 'hey that's my cousin in the crowd, why should I shoot him?' Propping up the military as the social welfare state is going to have some unforseen consequences should the poor rise up.
the solution is clearly robot riot police

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

just a reminder that the clinton campaign spent time putting up a long essay on their website about how a green cartoon frog was a symbol of white supremacy

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

http://www.hillarybeattrump.org/

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

america uses protectionism and tariffs all the loving time

exhibit a: it's literally illegal to reimport the same drat drugs from canada that are sold for 1/2 to 1/10th of the price in the US
exhibit b: sugar has tariffs to protect the corn industry to the degree that the us is one of the only (or only?) country in the world that uses HFCS as its primary sweetener instead of sugar

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/836784175252451329

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9-Sgz9g-HA&t=1316s

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

FuzzySkinner posted:

How do I say this without sounding mad online or like an idiot.

For some reason I'm more disgusted with the DNC/Dems in this country right now, more so then the GOP/Right Wingers in this country. And i can't figure that out. Perhaps it's because the GOP is up front about how lovely they are and they favor Big Business. While the recent Democrats in this county are for the exact same things that they claim they oppose in that regard...

and it ain't "truth is in the middle" when the "middle" is a "Moderate Republican". We really do not have a viable left wing party in this country and it depresses the hell out of me. Maybe MLK Jr. was onto something when he said the greatest stumbling block to justice was the "White Moderate".
it's because the democrats in power are incredibly hypocritical sellout scumbags with an insufferable holier than thou attitude

exhibit A of insufferability: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/12/bank-reform-barney-frank-wall-street-213412

the democratic party goes out of their way to kill progressive movements and agendas. they only push for reform like romneycare that fits within the overton window of the corporate donor class. they can't even push for drug reimportation from canada, a public option, or allowing medicare to negotiate prices.

they are the party of war. they are the party of wall street. they are the party of oil. they are the party of the business class who want to ship as many american jobs as they can overseas. they are basically GOP-lite.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

FuzzySkinner posted:

How loving sad is it that Trump is beating the Dems right now with various messages that would be considered "left wing economic populism".
the democrats were incredibly tone-deaf on economic messaging.

the top of the ticket was lying about being against TPP with extremely mealy-mouthed words, there was a campaign gaffe of a clinton surrogate assuring donors that clinton really did support TPP, they didn't go against TPP in the democratic party platform, and the loving president was strongly pushing TPP

the most charitable you could say is that at least clinton was smart enough to realize she shouldn't be publically supporting TPP. too bad obama pushing it all campaign season ruined any credibility the democratic party had on this issue.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jimmy dore mocking russian hysterics by the democrats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dky3vpDeJ-s

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/837310368020037633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Photo contradicts Pelosi's statement about not meeting Kislyak

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

NPR was just talking nonstop about the russian bullshit when I was driving to/from the dentist today lol

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Clinton On What She’d Do Differently: ‘I’d win’

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

SgtMongoose posted:

It's been good fun over the years to hear well meaning people point out that Republicans were never serious about banning abortion, only securing the votes of the religious right. A fun thought experiment is to ask those people what they think the Democrats have been doing all this time about foreign interventionism and real economic reforms in America?
sorry but the republicans have been such obstructionists!

*ignores literally filibuster proof majority in senate and 58% control of the house in the 2009 congress*

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jimmy dore roasting corporate democrat for giving vague mealy-mouthed bullshit platitudes when answering a question about what the democrats stand for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9KyR86CZ1E

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Poll finds most New Yorkers don't want Hillary Clinton to run for mayor

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jimmy dore roasting tom perez for responding with bullshit meally mouthed platitudes when asked what does the democratic party stand for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J2C-U8KtuE

this is why the democrats are wiped the gently caress out because they stand for loving nothing

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jimmy getting really worked up about the vox article about how hillary's ads were almost all personal attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI-OpbHz1-4

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

call to action posted:

You'd kinda think justice for immigrants would involve raising their wages, but somehow it only ever involves ensuring they've got access to all the chattel slave-like day labor they can do. Hmmm....
but will this solve racism

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

this is literally the third time within a week that jimmy is roasting another dem offering vague bullshit platitudes and nothingness instead of any concrete platforms or proposals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jx8PADyzmc

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

mormonpartyboat posted:

https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/841400006112366592

lol how quickly the democrats forget that this was the guy who refused to press charges against any bankers back in '08
do clinton voters and obama supporters like not see anything wrong with how the democratic party handled the financial crisis with respect to wall street fraud. i'm just a simple man trying to understand here.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jimmy is absolutely right that the democratic plan of just being "anti-trump" and offering no policy or platform is failing horribly

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

dore talking about voters in gallup polls identifying as democrats taking a dive off a cliff between 2008 and 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKsRlAVVDk

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