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SpitztheGreat posted:2) The sport is hurting financially. We all know that dollars have dried up for the sport, sponsorship aren't what they use to be and viewership is down from the heights of 8-12 years ago. I don't think that the sport, since its inception, has ever had to really face a market downturn like this. From inception through the late 1980s, the sport was small and regional, growing at rate that was easy to control. The boom of the 90s and early Aughts was unprecedented, and so any correction would also be unprecedented. We are living through that correction right now, and there's no playbook for it because it's the first time it has happened to NASCAR. How do you replace a series sponsorship with a smaller one and maintain profits? It's never happened. Hell, I guarantee you that somewhere in NASACR's offices in Charlotte they still have Winston Cup letterhead, we aren't that far removed from that period. The point is that, for the first time maybe, the sport is looking at the reality that growth is not always linear, and that's unsettling because there is little living memory of bad times in NASCAR's offices. The solution is not trying to maintain profits. It's being smart enough to understand that the boom of the 90s/00s was a once-in-a-lifetime situation that isn't going to repeat. NASCAR has one enormous strength: they're not publicly traded. There aren't vampiric shareholders demanding more and more money each quarter. And yet the France family are morons, and instead of doing the insanely obvious fix and doubling down on their traditional audience, they instead keep trying to pander to the masses, i.e. people who stopped watching NASCAR and aren't going to resume no matter what.
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I’ve never personally understood the logic behind making winning a NASCAR title so dependent on winning a single race, when there’s so much that can happen in those races that’s entirely out of your control. It just doesn’t strike me as a good way to determine who’s actually good at stock car racing.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:16
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Did anyone else actually watch less racing because of the stages? I don’t even turn most races on until the third stage starts.
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Nov 13, 2017 18:32
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I honestly don't understand how someone can be fine with debris yellows but not be OK with stages, but everyone has their own tastes. I’m fine with neither. Just let them race. Sometimes races will be boring. There are like 40 of them. Deal with it.
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Nov 13, 2017 19:18
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Wasn’t it last year where they had a really good low downforce package? What the hell happened to that?
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Nov 13, 2017 20:27
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CBJSprague24 posted:Good on Danica if she can get a sponsor to pony up for Daytona, but where is she going to land a competitive car for one race? HMS, JGR, SHR are all full. Maybe Roush because their plate stuff has been good, even though Roush said they had no interest in putting Danica and Ricky on the same team ever? Rumor is that she’ll be driving for Ganassi at Indy, so maybe them at Daytona as well?
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Nov 18, 2017 13:12
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He was clearly being lovely about it in the interview. Said something sarcastic about “we’ve got a good buddy there,” as if all the other drivers are supposed to just pull into the pits and stop.
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Nov 20, 2017 21:54
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Ryan Blaney is the only reason I care about NASCAR these days.
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Nov 21, 2017 02:40
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wicka posted:Ryan Blaney is the only reason I care about NASCAR these days. This is a lie, I was literally shaking during the last few laps yesterday. Stupid loving playoffs. So dumb, yet so effective.
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Nov 21, 2017 02:41
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Kyle did 9/11
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Nov 21, 2017 19:06
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CBJSprague24 posted:My money's on some sort of hydraulic jack system which will be an abortion. Knaus is for sure a #10.
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Nov 22, 2017 20:09
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Tony Stewart murdered someone on camera And the loving idiot wasted it on not-Kyle Busch
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Nov 24, 2017 23:13
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Elitist Bitch posted:He killed someone, he didn't murder them. It's not the same thing, hth. When it’s on purpose it’s murder.
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Nov 25, 2017 04:28
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CBJSprague24 posted:Is this going to be one of those situations where the kid is one of the existing kids' aunts/uncles like in King of the Hill with GH? Somebody do the math for me here. 2+2=he died
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Dec 21, 2017 15:09
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CBJSprague24 posted:He and his ex-wife Pattie have two other children, Austin and Montgomery Lee. Don’t @ me
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Dec 21, 2017 15:39
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SpitztheGreat posted:Then why are you trying to make this happen? Have you considered that maybe she wants to?
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Jan 5, 2018 12:03
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SpitztheGreat posted:Her words and expressions at the end of the season were not of someone who was enjoying this anymore. No one would ever say this about anyone but Danica. She’s been a racing driver for like 30 years. You really think she just fully hates it now and is begrudgingly doing two more races as a cash grab? That’s idiotic, man.
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Jan 5, 2018 16:24
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Did the forums explode? I can’t see that newest post. E: ah, there it is
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Jan 5, 2018 16:57
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Every racing driver in the world has looked frustrated at some point. Have you seen Alonso at any point in the last three years? Are you saying he’s just in it for the money too?
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Jan 5, 2018 20:11
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I have seen a lot of racing drivers look sad, frustrated, despondent, etc. in the time before they finally decide to retire. Many of them have continued racing occasionally after their retirement. I have never heard anyone accuse those drivers of only returning post-retirement for the money, until now. There’s no defense to what you are saying. You hate Danica, and you have sculpted reality to allow you to hate her more. I don’t like Danica either; she isn’t particularly talented and her seat(s) could’ve gone to far better drivers. But it shouldn’t be a loving stretch to think she enjoys racing and wants to go out at the two biggest and best events before she hangs up her helmet.
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Jan 5, 2018 20:39
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Peanut President posted:
No, it’s already ended.
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Jan 5, 2018 23:49
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and so it begins
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What did you think you were proving there?
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Jan 6, 2018 06:11
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Has it seriously not struck you that if you’re forced to post essay-length diatribes in an attempt to make sense of her actions and your assumptions, your assumptions might just be wrong?
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Jan 6, 2018 15:32
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Peanut President posted:shut up wicka Nobody asked you a god drat thing
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Jan 6, 2018 16:13
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Join the conversation or don’t, but no one cares to see you sit in the corner crying about posts you don’t like. All you ever do is bitch and whine about everything I say. It’s gotten real loving old, and it was never interesting to begin with.
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Jan 6, 2018 16:32
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Slickdrac posted:Here's a nice short one for you then. At what point has Danica ever struck ANYONE as a person passionate and in love with racing for itself? She doesn't buschwhack, I don't recall ever hearing her go to some random local track to go race, almost every interview is either her talking about her brand, herself, or whomever wrecked her, rarely does she ever talk about racing itself at any length. It's always seemed far more her means to her end, rather than the other way around like most racers. You mean other than dedicating literally her entire life to it?
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Jan 6, 2018 16:34
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Slickdrac posted:Dedication is not passion and enjoyment, try again. (Optionally, don't) My god, why do you hate this woman so loving much? Why do you speak this way about her, and no one else? Take your own advice and stop posting about her, it’s honestly just sad at this point.
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I’m not taking it personally at all, lmao. Someone asked a dumb question - “why is she doing it if not for money?” - and I explained that she might just actually want to do it. Y’all are weird as gently caress.
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Jan 6, 2018 17:18
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Slickdrac posted:Then cut the bullshit. No one is saying they hate her. No one has said it would be unique to her only. You have made far more posts than anyone else about it. Lmao, “cut the bullshit” my rear end. You don’t have to bluntly say “I hate her,” you’re doing that when you bizarrely suggest everything she does has a corrupt, hidden meaning, when you suggest nothing like that about anyone else. I’m posting because you’re replying, as you always do, and you always blame me. Your correct response was accepting you were wrong and letting it go. You can’t do that because you are a small, sad man. Prove me wrong.
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Peanut, you need to calm down and actually follow the conversation, because clearly you have no idea what’s being discussed and are just using this topic as another opportunity to attack me. It’s a pretty simple conversation, and it has quite literally nothing to do with defending Danica’s abilities.
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My god man, what is your problem?
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Jan 6, 2018 17:29
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CBJSprague24 posted:There's nothing wrong with suggesting she might actually want to do it but you can't get pissy when people suggest otherwise. In what universe do you think I’m the one getting pissy here? Please read what you and others have posted, then meet up with your posting friends somewhere and discuss how you can 1. stop doing this poo poo, and 2. stop blaming me for it. This should not be so difficult.
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Jan 6, 2018 18:24
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mactheknife posted:Danica sucks, it's cool she's leaving. Hell, I agree
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Whoops no I’m dumb
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CBJSprague24 posted:Nah, it's all good. I just really appreciate Dale's candor so I'd kind of like him to keep it up. I misread literally every single word you wrote, lmao.
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Jan 8, 2018 01:33
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I like Buckshot Jones.
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Jan 8, 2018 16:19
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Buckshot Jones is my favorite driver. Always has been.
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Jan 8, 2018 20:43
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CBJSprague24 posted:NASCAR wanted $100M and got $20M. Can't remember if that's for the life of the contract or per year. If that’s the life of the contract...gently caress.
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She could not be more unbearable even if she were actively trying.
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skaboomizzy posted:I wish her all the best with her "lifestyle brand" that will eventually show up at Kohl's or Target or wherever. At least she probably won't get someone killed or maimed in a mass of flaming, twisted metal doing that. Famous last words
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