How do you think the forums rewrite is going?

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akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

yeah i don't want to see the forums source code anyways

# ? Feb 19, 2017 20:08

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 06:27

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

LinYutang posted:

Worst case you end up with another Radium-esque situation where the one person who can untangle the bespoke functional forums code quits and it ends up accumulating debt + security vulnerabilities

Except this time it doesn't have the benefit of vbulletin's nominal engineering

# ? Feb 19, 2017 20:08

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Have I mentioned that "starting over" was a bad idea? Because it is, and people who say otherwise are wrong

# ? Feb 19, 2017 20:12

Asymmetric POSTer: Aug 17, 2005

Progressive JPEG posted:

kc is ok

lol no

# ? Feb 19, 2017 21:35

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

don't worry, I'm sure one dude is going to do a great job engineering and designing for scalability and reliability while working for free with the only spec being "do what this already does but better somehow also don't change anything" and coding in a random wankery language no one understands while the owner /project manager doesn't know anything about managing software projects and there's zero QA. there is no way this can fail.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 21:46

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

second system effect.doc but for clowns

# ? Feb 19, 2017 21:47

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

The Management posted:

don't worry, I'm sure one dude is going to do a great job engineering and designing for scalability and reliability while working for free with the only spec being "do what this already does but better somehow also don't change anything" and coding in a random wankery language no one understands while the owner /project manager doesn't know anything about managing software projects and there's zero QA. there is no way this can fail.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 22:11

George: Nov 27, 2004; No love for your made-up things.

once the internet hears that a hallowed institution like sa needs a new backbone im certain that all kinds of skilled console cowboys will be dying to show lowtax their pseudocode

like who wouldn't want to work for free to put a high-prestige project like this on their resumé

# ? Feb 20, 2017 00:49

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Uncle Enzo posted:

was there a good reason given as why the forum's rewrite wasn't publicly hosted on github or similar? people could help maybe. understand why the old code can't be distributed due to some being proprietary, but getting a copyright agreement and licensing from new contributors should be straightforward?

because lowtax wants someone to actually write it, not 5000 people doing concept art or starting the wiki

# ? Feb 20, 2017 01:29

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Sweevo posted:

because lowtax wants someone to actually write it, not 5000 people doing concept art or starting the wiki

except that we literally have hundreds of people who have the spare time and interest

i suspect the actual reason it's being done in secret is that lowtax and his boy wonder are ashamed of what yospos/fyad/shsc would bitch about

# ? Feb 20, 2017 01:35

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

there's no point in open sores because nobody is going to contribute anything in elixir

# ? Feb 20, 2017 01:59

vodkat: Jun 30, 2012; cannot legally be sold as vodka

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

except that we literally have hundreds of people who have the spare time and interest

i suspect the actual reason it's being done in secret is that lowtax and his boy wonder are ashamed of what yospos/fyad/shsc would bitch about

we have a winner, an open sores forums would probably the first, and only, successful goon project.

# ? Feb 20, 2017 02:00

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

except that we literally have hundreds of people who have the spare time and interest

we said the same thing about zybourne clock

# ? Feb 20, 2017 02:04

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

except that we literally have hundreds of people who have the spare time and interest

i suspect the actual reason it's being done in secret is that lowtax and his boy wonder are ashamed of what yospos/fyad/shsc would bitch about

why is fyad on that list

imo we should have a backup forum setup on something like funny.computer for when the end times come

# ? Feb 20, 2017 02:42

vodkat: Jun 30, 2012; cannot legally be sold as vodka

FamDav posted:

why is fyad on that list

imo we should have a backup forum setup on something like funny.computer for when the end times come

imagine the day, the desperate survivors who made it out in time before the forums apocalypse gather in syncirc trying to assess the damage, our visionary post apocalyptic leader smythe grabs the digital conch shell and tells us all of the new promised land called funny.computer, a dozen nerds post "i'll start the wiki" in unison

# ? Feb 20, 2017 03:15

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

akadajet posted:

we said the same thing about zybourne clock

making a video game is just a lil' different from making GBS threads out another forums turd

# ? Feb 20, 2017 03:40

Uncle Enzo: Apr 28, 2008; I always wanted to be a Wizard

i wouldn't have anything to contribute and almost no one else would either. no one looks at source code other than people who, for whatever hosed-up reason, actually care about code. that's a blessing at least. plus it would ensure a history of commits that a follow-up writer or maintainer could use to figure out what needs to be done.

maybe this is all moot and actually lowtax has all dev work being committed to a server somewhere he controls and the only difference is visibility. hate to see anyone's work get lost

# ? Feb 20, 2017 04:48

hifi: Jul 25, 2012

lowtax wasnt able to get the karma system and door games unemcumbered from closed source licenses

# ? Feb 20, 2017 05:24

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Uncle Enzo posted:

maybe this is all moot and actually lowtax has all dev work being committed to a server somewhere he controls and the only difference is visibility. hate to see anyone's work get lost

it's written in elixir, so the work was "lost" from the very beginning

in five years no one will know how to read a toy language meant for a dead VM

# ? Feb 20, 2017 19:13

big scary monsters: Sep 2, 2011; -~Ｓｋｕｌｌｗａｖｅ~-

once the rewrite is complete and source code is released enterprising goons will port it to whatever language is the new hotness in 2025

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:02

My Linux Rig: Mar 27, 2010; Can't post for 6 years!

big scary monsters posted:

once the rewrite is complete and source code is released enterprising goons will port it to whatever language is the new hotness in 2025

it'll be written in rare, artisanal peeps

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:04

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

the only way to do it right is to create a new language just for this project

# ? Feb 20, 2017 20:51

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

here, ive started a mumps based back end api for the forums. ive tried to keep the flavor of the original code where possible

code:

getPostsGlobalName() q $na(^poo poo)

;NOTE: Update this whenever forum names are changed!
getForumID(forumName) q $s(forumName="YOSPOS":219,forumName="GBS":1) ;and so on

;NOTE: list must be dotted reference
getThreadList(forumID,list) n curThread,posts
 s posts=$$getPostsGlobalName()
 f  s curThread=$o(@posts@(forumID,curThread)) q:curThread="" d
 . s list(curThread)=@posts@(forumID,curThread,"NAME")
 q

;NOTE: postLIst must be dotted reference
getPostsFromThread(forumID,threadID,postList) n curPost,posts
 s posts=$$getPostsGlobalName()
 f  s curPost=$o(@posts@(forumID,threadID,curPost) q:curPost="" d
 . m postList=@posts@(forumID,threadID,curPost)

postInThread(forumID,threadID,text,user,timestamp) n postID,posts
 s posts=$$getPostsGlobalName()
 s postID=$o(@posts@(forumID,threadID,postID),-1)+1
 s @posts@(forumID,threadID,postID,"text")=text
 s @posts@(forumID,threadID,postID,"user")=user
 s @posts@(forumID,threadID,postID,"timestamp")=timestamp
 q

i have now written a more complete forums than elixir guy

# ? Feb 20, 2017 21:19

susan b buffering: Nov 14, 2016

why the gently caress wouldn't lowtax just use xenforo? surely it'd be cheaper and more sensible to pay someone to write plugins for whatever bespoke functionality needs to be carried over

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:19

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

never underestimate a "magic beans" sales pitch

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:25

streetlamp: May 7, 2007; Danny likes his party hat
He does not like his banana hat

FamDav posted:

imo we should have a backup forum setup on something like funny.computer for when the end times come

i do own secretinternet.club, lovely.tech, reallybad.website, eternally.online among others

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:46

eric: Apr 27, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

skull mask mcgee posted:

why the gently caress wouldn't lowtax just use xenforo? surely it'd be cheaper and more sensible to pay someone to write plugins for whatever bespoke functionality needs to be carried over

Seriously just do this and archive the current forum. New place will be filled with shitposts in a day. Stop wasting money on coders that will quit halfway through the job.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:48

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

skull mask mcgee posted:

why the gently caress wouldn't lowtax just use xenforo? surely it'd be cheaper and more sensible to pay someone to write plugins for whatever bespoke functionality needs to be carried over

highlighted the problem area. some idiot promised to write a new forum for free and solve every migration problem, which sounds much better than paying money for something that works and then paying someone else more money to do stupid things you think it should do.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:59

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

The Management posted:

highlighted the problem area. some idiot promised to write a new forum for free and solve every migration problem, which sounds much better than paying money for something that works and then paying someone else more money to do stupid things you think it should do.

no he's paying the guy.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:29

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

cis autodrag posted:

no he's paying the guy.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:43

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

The Management posted:

what did you think the fundraiser was all about? he has wild dreams of this guy writing him the next great forums software that he can then sell to other forums such as

# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:45

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

we don't know that elixer dude ever stopped.

we do know that he stopped posting about his rewrite tho.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:58

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

he's probably not even in stage 3 yet (all the work while crying)

# ? Feb 23, 2017 21:00

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

cis autodrag posted:

what did you think the fundraiser was all about? he has wild dreams of this guy writing him the next great forums software that he can then sell to other forums such as

I assumed hosting the development server, but I didn't really look into it. richard, don't

# ? Feb 23, 2017 22:02