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Master Twig posted:I had a friend recently tell me at a gathering lately that the current season of the Simpsons is actually pretty good. No I’ve fallen for that twice, it’s a trick.
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It’s “better” in the sense that they are no longer doing actively cringy and appalling stuff and it’s mostly just bland, soulless, and low effort.
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Apr 14, 2024 21:03
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The last few seasons have had a new show runner, and they have tried some new things narratively with some of the episodes. They've also slowed down the breakneck pacing of the jokes so that jokes can actually land. Are the jokes funnier? Eh, probably not that much. Some of the episodes at least are weird in a way that is different than the last 15-20 years or mediocrity. But a lot of episodes are explicitly not that, and are just as mediocre as the worst of the Simpsons. So is it good again? That's probably going too far.
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Apr 14, 2024 21:10
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Master Twig posted:I had a friend recently tell me at a gathering lately that the current season of the Simpsons is actually pretty good. The Moon Monster posted:I feel like even if they fixed everything else the Marge voice issue is a dealbreaker. 
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Apr 14, 2024 21:31
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what about the art style of the Simpsons, like for its worst years it seem to be some sort of "HD" style that looked "flat", but now it seem to went back to something that looks older.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Had to read the comments to see that it was supposed to be this song, which I've never heard before: Oh wow, that's weird and obscure. The song is from a 1969 album made for the old Archie comics. Which technically the album has been referenced before in the Simpsons in 1993. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwB_-gC9ToE The Hot Dog reference is from 2017. Except "Sugar, Sugar" is a better-known song, having topped the charts in 1969 (which is often cited as an example of how popular media at the time can just kinda be forgettable garbage compared to the other songs from 1969 that are more famous now), and even with that, the 1993 reference doesn't even rely on you knowing where the song is from, whereas the 2017 Hot Dog reference is more specifically riffing on the song itself (but also riffing in a weird way? Why does Homer want to rhyme with relish?). And not that I think the Sugar Sugar joke is even strong, but it's less than 20 seconds and leads into a better joke, while the Hot Dog joke is 50 seconds and then goes nowhere.
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Apr 14, 2024 22:33
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PhazonLink posted:chili dogs cooked in their own chili is an interesting cooking method, might be the only thing of value the simpsons has done in years or decades. Before everything came pre-packaged in plastic you would get sausages like that from your butcher. The knot is where they tie the intestine casing off between each link, forming a long chain of meat tubes.
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As a kid I worked at a grill that still got hotdogs that way, the little tied nub is loving delicious when grilled.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Oh wow, that's weird and obscure. The song is from a 1969 album made for the old Archie comics. Which technically the album has been referenced before in the Simpsons in 1993. Plus, the "Sugar, Sugar" segment uses the actual song, even when everyone in 1993 would have likely known it. Here, they're really off key and off tempo singing an obscure song. At the very least it should have had instruments behind it so people had an idea of what they were attempting. Because when I first heard it I assumed it was some half-assed tune the writers made up on the spot and went with it.
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Mr Interweb posted:Hedgehog Pie Touched upon a big one but for me it seemed like a much darker episode then Simpsons was ever really used to. Bart's been a bratty kid but he seemed uncharacteristically mean as well. and to see him not only just get hurt but like repeatedly get hurt in some pretty serious ways that weren't done for comedic purposes just didn't really sit right with me
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Remy Marathe posted:As a kid I worked at a grill that still got hotdogs that way, the little tied nub is loving delicious when grilled. this is why sausage ends are the best part. also why meatballs of a certain size are good.
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I think a lot of the mass market hot dogs that you buy these days don't actually have a casing, and that's why there's no knob on the end. SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Plus, the "Sugar, Sugar" segment uses the actual song, even when everyone in 1993 would have likely known it. Here, they're really off key and off tempo singing an obscure song. At the very least it should have had instruments behind it so people had an idea of what they were attempting. Because when I first heard it I assumed it was some half-assed tune the writers made up on the spot and went with it. While singing a comic book tie in song from 1969 in 2017, 48 years after it came out, is way too obscure to be a meaningful reference, in 1993 it's still 24 years ago, which is why the reference itself isn't the main point of the joke that has to carry the scene. And god drat that math, 93 is closer to 69 than I first thought, so it's wild that the first reference is the exact midpoint from the second reference. I guess I still don't really recognize most of the top songs of the year 2000 even if I was around for them.
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2000 was kind of a cultural wasteland compared to 1969.
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Every subsequent generation has grown up with boomer music as omnipresent background noise, it's quaint to think no one would recognise a song from 1969.
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Apr 16, 2024 07:30
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SlothfulCobra posted:While singing a comic book tie in song from 1969 in 2017, 48 years after it came out, is way too obscure to be a meaningful reference, in 1993 it's still 24 years ago, which is why the reference itself isn't the main point of the joke that has to carry the scene. I had never even heard of Archie comics when that episode aired in Finland, and that scene was still great because it's a funny joke on its own.
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Apr 16, 2024 07:48
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Every subsequent generation has grown up with boomer music as omnipresent background noise, it's quaint to think no one would recognise a song from 1969. Are you talking about the hot dog song? Because it's pretty drat obscure.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Are you talking about the hot dog song? Because it's pretty drat obscure. Oh no, the hot dog song I had no idea, especially since it's from an American ad campaign that probably didn't air in other countries. We got the Chicken Tonight song, though.
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I could see the old jewish man https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Jewish_Man singing the chicken tonight song with his pants around his ankles
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Apr 16, 2024 09:42
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I'm pretty sure some people out there think that Sugar Sugar was original to the Simpsons from the way that I've seen that clip thrown around.
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Apr 16, 2024 14:34
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Sugar, Sugar was a major international hit; it was number one for eight weeks in the UK and the best-selling single of a year/era that's maintained a good bit of influence in pop culture for better or worse. It also topped the charts in countless other countries. I didn't know what The Archies were when I was growing up, but I was definitely familiar with the song outside of The Simpsons. That said, the visuals and I GOT THAT FOR MY BIRTHDAY! make it funny even if you don't know the song.
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“Sugar, Sugar” was and still is a pretty ubiquitous song played on oldies stations everywhere. Looking at its original chart performance, it spent four weeks on top of Billboard’s Hot 100 and eight weeks on top of the UK Singles Chart. It was a global phenomenon for a hot minute, and Boomers fondly remember it and won’t let any younger generations forget about it. It wasn’t exactly a deep cut reference like the hot dog song, but golden age Simpsons knew how to deep cut and keep it endearing and funny without you knowing it’s a reference to something from long ago, like Homer’s bedtime song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkmS9tLgjDA
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Remember when sight gags were pithy and clever? https://twitter.com/CesarWeGetIt/status/1777170304194027799
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Data Graham posted:2000 was kind of a cultural wasteland compared to 1969. What do you mean? Professional wrestling was at a peak and the billboard charts were still covertly dominated by Swedish music factories. Plus there was the novelty of stamping "2000" on every new product and brand iteration! The Archies and the Monkees were kind of early examples of label-assembled groups which peaked in the year 2000 and collapsed soon after. Although I always recognized Archie comics, and Sugar Sugar as a song, I didn't realize the two were connected until youtube came around
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Video games were pretty awesome.
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je1 healthcare posted:What do you mean? Professional wrestling was at a peak and the billboard charts were still covertly dominated by Swedish music factories. Plus there was the novelty of stamping "2000" on every new product and brand iteration! I feel like stamping 2000 on stuff was more of a 90s thing. Early on into the 00s you had a few 3000s and even 4000s but the magic was clearly gone. Cultural wasteland status: confirmed, sadly.
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Let's all meet up in the year 2000 Won't it be strange when we're all fully grown
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DENTAL DAM Lisa needs gay sex DENTAL DAM Lisa needs gay sex DENTAL DAM Lisa needs gay sex
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BasicLich posted:DENTAL DAM the nonsensical intrusive thoughts thread is THATTAWAY, man!
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There never was worse pop music than 2000's.
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Fish of hemp posted:There never was worse pop music than 2000's. There was some interesting and good post grunge stuff when music as a whole was still trying to figure out what to do after that, and then it all just went in the shittiest direction.
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Seriously though, that's the year of Deus Ex, Space Channel 5, Diablo II, Jet Set Radio, Timesplitters, Paper Mario, Perfect Dark, The Sims, Counter-Strike, Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, Majora's Mask... and that's just quickly looking on wikipedia, drat.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Seriously though, that's the year of Deus Ex, Space Channel 5, Diablo II, Jet Set Radio, Timesplitters, Paper Mario, Perfect Dark, The Sims, Counter-Strike, Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, Majora's Mask... and that's just quickly looking on wikipedia, drat. Yeah, I don't get pop-punk band names at all
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Fish of hemp posted:There never was worse pop music than 2000's. I definitely agree with that. 1999 to at least 2008 is one of the worst eras of Western pop culture. Music, video games, movies.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1999, actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2smQ703GlJ4
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credburn posted:I definitely agree with that. 1999 to at least 2008 is one of the worst eras of Western pop culture. Music, video games, movies. Maybe agreed on a lot of stuff, but video games, really? The PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era? That's cutting off almost right when there was the brown shooter epidemic and the HD transition that killed off so many studios and basically started a lost decade for design.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Maybe agreed on a lot of stuff, but video games, really? The PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era? That's cutting off almost right when there was the brown shooter epidemic and the HD transition that killed off so many studios and basically started a lost decade for design. Well, maybe not video games as a whole, but PC gaming specifically suffered really bad in that time.
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credburn posted:Well, maybe not video games as a whole, but PC gaming specifically suffered really bad in that time. That's fair. Says something that the best I can think of from innovation on PCs specifically in that era was the rise of MMOs.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That's fair. Says something that the best I can think of from innovation on PCs specifically in that era was the rise of MMOs. the early to mid 2000's had some good rtses when the tech reached the point where you could have the battlefield be a 3d space
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zetamind2000 posted:the early to mid 2000's had some good rtses when the tech reached the point where you could have the battlefield be a 3d space I know it was a technical improvement but for quite a while it made them look quite a bit worse. Still reckon warcraft 2 looks better than 3. The M.Y.T.H games did you the 3d environments quite well though. A lot of games at first didn't seem to, just having it be a graphics thing only basically.
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