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DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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lmao if u think the bern is not doin this to prep for a 2020 run

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DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



i want bernie to just debate every member of the republican party one at a time between now and 2020 and just demolish all of them

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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Cirofren posted:

Ah yes the ol' 80 year old president gambit

he's only four years older than trump, it doesn't matter

especially because trump's brain already seems fried while bernie seems as sharp as ever

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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Sir Tonk posted:

I'm a vet with a service connected disability, free healthcare for life :smugdog:

yeah you think that now but just wait till they privatize it :unsmigghh:

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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Confounding Factor posted:

is bernie really going to run again in 4 years?

yes and he will win

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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anime was right posted:

i actually think if ellison sharpened up his speaking he'd do a loving ace job on the presidential trail

he would lose because he is muslim and this country is full of shitbag morons

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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Al-Saqr posted:

This.

This Debate is exactly what's needed. as I said before, crucifiying the GOP in public no holds barred debates with the exact same style as bernie must be the norm for the DNC from this point forward, if you ever wanted to see a killer example of completely loving over the GOP's slime, this was it.

Now is the time for the left to fight, it has the brains, it has the numbers, the only real obstacle in it's path is Ironically, the DNC itself.

well the dnc elite profit from the status quo just as much as the gop so of course they'd fight against the sanders' of the world

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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breaklaw posted:

That still wouldn't be enough to pay for Bernie's plans, and once you raise the rate over a certain point you actually start losing revenue. Look at what happened in France with Hollande's 75% tax bracket. He believed in it until it was proven to him to be counter-productive.

rofl our highest tax rate ever was like 92% and it benefited us immensely you loving doofus

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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breaklaw posted:

Didn't you just hear Cruz say that even a 100% tax wouldn't pay for it? Do you think Cruz is lying and using fake numbers to get to that answer?

why the helling poo poo would anyone think otherwise, he's ted fuckin cruz

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Aug 13, 2008

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breaklaw posted:

Because Hillary says the exact same thing. Former Sec of State Hillary Clinton the actual candidate, not Crooked Hillary the Trump character, agrees with Ted Cruz on this point.

why would you listen to the zodiac killer and a person who lost the election to donald trump rofl

fuckin cuba can afford universal health care and in fact beats us in most measures, why the hell do people like you seriously buy into the idea that it's too expensive for us

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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Breadallelogram posted:

felt good to see bernie debate again

better performance than his debates with hillary probably

it was a lot better because he wasn't having to stop himself from eviscerating his opponent like he was having to with clinton

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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breaklaw posted:

And then what do you do once that's money is all spent? how do you keep the system funded for the future? You have to have recurring revenue, in this case recurring tax revenue, and you seriously think people being taxed at 100% are going to keep producing at the same level? Do you? Why?

cuba has a universal health care system

they have a lower infant mortality rate and a lower rate of death for people between 15 and 65 than the us

they have more doctors per capita than the us

all this in a country that spends 185 per capita on healthcare

just lmfao that you are this loving dense

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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our healthcare system is so poo poo that it pales in comparison to a lovely dictatorial 3rd world caribbean nation

but "we can't afford it", says the loving dumbass who buys into idiotic talking points parroted by people desperate to hold on to their money at the expense of human lives

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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breaklaw posted:

Math is math. There is no capitalist math and socialist math. If your plan doesn't add up then you have no plan. I really think neither party has a workable plan right now.

why do the numbers add up for a country as poor as cuba but not for the richest nation on earth

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DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

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we spend more money on healthcare per year than every single nation on eath who has universal health care

i mean gently caress we wouldn't even need to raise taxes on the rich with those kinds of numbers to make uhc work. we spend that much because it is for-profit and we have no controls on pricing, we'd almost certainly be spending far less per capita with a uhc system, just like every other nation on earth who has one.

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