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Nice to see this being tried again, but fixing the mistakes I made last time (the river, map extensions). I don't have time to play, but I'll be watching with interest. Since the last time we did this, I finally have played a game in real life - and wrote up a battle report - it may be of interest to people.
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Yeah, Trin has pretty much done everything I would have done if I ever got time to do one of these again, The River was a big mistake last time, as was not making this a meeting engagement. I was also far to lax on letting people change orders every 30 seconds. I was even going to do the coming in at the same corner bit! Its going to be interesting to see how this shakes out.
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Feb 10, 2017 09:31
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I'd be tempted to leave the casualty makers in place, as they give a good idea of the flow of battle - mayve drop them into a different group in photoshop so you can turn them off during a turn to only show the fresh ones. also with a smaller map, you won't have the problem I had at the end that even on a decent pc, it took ten seconds to move chits around by the end! I really did over egg it!
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Feb 12, 2017 06:23
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Trin Tragula posted:I can't be mad at him because he's 100% correct, except for the part where he assumes I haven't spent the past three days cackling out loud. Now I understand why the villain never just orders his goons to shoot James Bond in the head! Evil. He is looking at it from a GM perspective, and one thing I've learned is that if you can come up with an idea, then your players can come up with the same idea - a true surprise is hard to pull off. Even in history, most surprise attacks have had that one guy who knows whats going to happen, but no-one will listen to him.
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Feb 13, 2017 15:15
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someone needs to make a good corps level wwi game, and a computer version of this would be great!
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Feb 14, 2017 08:09
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This is going to be interesting, it could go okay for the Germans if first contact gives them enough time/lucky rolls to change their orders. if they fail some key dice rolls, their men are going to be marching on to their doom. Not that the French have planned this amazing maneuver, they are just taking some high ground, and are going to be surprised as hell to crest the ridge and see the German army in all its glory. I'm sure they will react in a happier way though! It is nice to be reading one of these, and being able to skim read most of the orders for a change. Although it is making me itch to hit my mate up for a second 1914 game, then paint one of the two other divisions I have in my cupboard and give a 1915 game a go... (That and I have a crazy idea for a colonization CYOA that I'm mulling over in my head, as I'm a nutter....)
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Feb 15, 2017 09:31
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Neither side in in blind panic yet, but then then the shooting hasn't started yet - its the next turn when the artillery gets set up that we will see the losses coming in. neither side's assaulting force has a halt planned into the move, so shooting should be pretty even unless the Germans reach the objective first, or their cavalry in the town really slows the French down with their shooting. This was the bloodiest period of the war, day for day, and its about to show!
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Feb 17, 2017 09:02
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Its bad, but they have a strong force to the north of the town. They still have time to put up a line and have the french run into their lines, stationary troops have a massive advantage in firing first. if they keep on attacking, then they are done for.
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Feb 17, 2017 21:27
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The Germans have the objective, and their center is strong - they also have an inkling of the French objectives, and can use this to their advantage. I'm expecting the north east to St Croissant to stagnate now. The Germans will dig in on the hill, while pivoting on the western flank. The focus of the battle will shift and we may well see a line forming something like this.  Solid colours are where I expect the two sides to hold, while the dotted lines are "best case" scenarios - this assumes that neither side routs from the field of course! The French should get the ridge, as they have a brigade closer than the Germans, but this then depends on them holding it. It really comes down to if the commanders want to go all out to get their objectives or decide to hold the ground they have - we can see a shift in mentality in the french to be more defensive, with a whole brigade already digging in on Clemencau as opposed to doing something more aggressive. There is everything to play for - as always in these things, the players will break before their soldiers - mainly I think because they can see the big picture, while a soldier in the trenches would make decisions based on what small part of the battlefield they can see.
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Feb 21, 2017 09:14
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Both sides are firmly in the defensive mindset, and barring some skirmishes around the western side of the map, we are probably seeing the lines for this battle. The Germans have the town, the French their trenches on the town, whoever attacks now would be cut to pieces and be giving up and hope of victory. The French could bring their new brigade on on the far corner of the map and use cover to try and steal their objective, but as a green brigade, it would evaporate as soon as it took any hits. Trin - are you using the VP system or your own?
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Feb 22, 2017 09:41
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This is why I love Spearhead as a rules system - it really does capture the feel of a WWI battle, the planning stage means you can set up the game before you turn up, and then just laugh as your plans go horribly wrong.
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Feb 22, 2017 10:08
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So, it looks like the French might be forgetting that units inside towns count as hard cover and can't be spotted from a long distance. they seem to thin they can waltz through the German center, when in fact, its still pretty well defended.....
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Feb 24, 2017 10:21
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Splode posted:The thing with people who choose to observe is that they're likely to be the same people who choose to not post. Not posting in the faction threads is a good idea - when I started doing these things, people were always doing it and giving away key info.
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Feb 27, 2017 08:49
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We're certainly transitioning to a different from of battle - both sides are looking for small tactical victories over grand sweeping plans. Of course, the Germans have their objective and just need to hold it now, while the French need to retake the hill. The Germans certainly did better than expected, but now there is a veteran British brigade bearing down on their postion. Nighttime will be important, both sides may hold and dig in, which will signal the end of the battle, as once dawn comes, they will be looking at lines of entrenchments across the map. If they continue to fight in key sectors then its going to get bloody.
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Feb 27, 2017 12:29
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Well played by both sides. I think Trin did a great job, and his map was far more balanced than mine!
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Mar 5, 2017 10:49
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my dad posted:Random question: How good would this ruleset be (with minor modifications) for a game set in the USA Civil War? There are WWII and Modern versions of the rules, but I'm not sure they would work backwards. There should be more wargames that force you to write your battle plan before the game and then make you stick to it.
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Mar 6, 2017 09:20
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Yeah, the fight in Bois de Blob is going to be an interesting one. I really like how both sides are creating their trench lines, but don't really have the men to fill them - will the last battle make both sides a bit more hesitant to attack? Not having a clue where the enemies forces are is making this interesting - right now, the German Cav in Stethascope could marhc forwards unopposed, but have no idea that they currently have the numbers advantage.
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Mar 21, 2017 10:21
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Looks like the Germans are throwing in the towel! God drat you Trin, you've got me on a WWI trip, I'm doing An LP of the AGEOD game, reading Ring of steel, I've just prepped a division of British troops for painting - and now I'm watching Tony Robinsons WWI while pinned under a sleeping baby. Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 09:22
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It looks like hes going to be replaced by his men. Just play it like Moltke having his nervious breakdown....
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Mar 26, 2017 10:03
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I'm interested by the new southern defencive line, it seems to give up a lot of land and give the Germans a lot of land to cover, something like my red line below would be move efficient.
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