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Some of the costs and laws get confusing as I've yet to decide on which option is the best and safest, I'd be willing to leave somewhere outside of New York as well but just assumed that's where the most cargo ships leave. Also Scandinavia was left vague because while I know a lot of the cruise ships are Norwegian, I don't know which is the best or cheapest option. I'd prefer to land in Denmark and not on any type of vacation or cruise ship with several routes if possible, and then I could take a little ferry I've heard about over the years up into either Sweden or Norway, don't remember it's route honestly. I imagine even if I do not need a passport to board, I would need one to enter the country unless they just pull up near a pile of rocks occasionally or I'm in the mood for a nice long freezing swim. Willing to go pay for one of those, just want to confirm I'd need one first. If anyone has done this some tips about which ships are preferable are appreciated, or if it gets legally complicated. Do they care what I bring? I'd like to bring my woodworking tools and the rest of my life in general in a couple of suitcases, and I figured this would be easier than shipping them unless there's some fear of people taking over an old dirty cargo ship traveling at 24 knots.
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where did you get this idea from? typically non-passenger ships don't just let people get on for fun. I don't think its quite like you imagine. usually to get a spot aboard you would have to have a merchant mariners license ( or certificate?) and he hired. Theres a ton of liability associated with letting random people aboard, and most companies flat out just wont do it. I do believe some commercial ships have dedicated areas for passengers, though I've never heard of this in the USA. Only poorer regions of the world where this form of travel is their only option. if you mean being a secret stowaway and hitching it across the pond I have heard a story of that happening before, so it is technically possible. I guess i'm failing to grasp why you would want to be on a boat with nothing to do for a month+ are you trying to smuggle drugs or something?
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Why don't you do a repositioning cruise instead? They're cheap and also legal. I've heard of things like you're talking about but I think since 9/11 it's basically no longer a thing for regular travelers unless you go to a third world country or a very specific place. Alternately, you can fly down to Cape Town and take the mail ship to St. Helena/Ascension or Tristan de Cunha, which should give you a similar experience. http://rms-st-helena.com/schedules-fares/ http://www.tristandc.com/shipping.php Alternately, you might look into going to Libya and getting on one of those rubber skiffs that goes from Tripoli to Malta. They're super expensive though, so maybe not what you're looking for. OTOH this sounds like one of those posts where the OP has no intention of ever actually following through with their hopes and dreams.
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I LIKE COOKIE posted:where did you get this idea from? typically non-passenger ships don't just let people get on for fun. I don't think its quite like you imagine. usually to get a spot aboard you would have to have a merchant mariners license ( or certificate?) and he hired. Theres a ton of liability associated with letting random people aboard, and most companies flat out just wont do it. I've wanted to see the country my family came here from since i was a kid, but I stopped flying when I was maybe 12, got too sick and anxious each time. I figured how else does one cross an ocean? Can't just buy a one engine little plane anymore (thanks osama, idiot bitch!!!) so sailing on a boat seems like the way to go. I found some blogs about people who did it and it cost them 80$ a night for a cabin and the captain even invited them to hang out with him and drink tea but I don't see any business sites yet confirming they can still offer something like this, I'll find one. Not smuggling anything, just bored of my routine and even my hobbies aren't enough to keep me from focusing on how bored I am. I know the issue is that I'll be bringing myself with me, but that's a topic for e/n I suppose. Saladman posted:Why don't you do a repositioning cruise instead? They're cheap and also legal. I've heard of things like you're talking about but I think since 9/11 it's basically no longer a thing for regular travelers unless you go to a third world country or a very specific place. Thanks, no flying though. I was thinking more of a few dozen boards poorly nailed together as my refugee raft. Who said anything about hopes and dreams? I'm single without kids, it's just a fantasy that's kept up the longest. I'm more the type to try, but then fail and move back to the states again. You'll be the first to know if I abandon the idea or fail in general so you can celebrate on time. extra stout fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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extra stout posted:Thanks, no flying though. I was thinking more of a few dozen boards poorly nailed together as my refugee raft. Who said anything about hopes and dreams? I'm single without kids, it's just a fantasy that's kept up the longest. I'm more the type to try, but then fail and move back to the states again. You'll be the first to know if I abandon the idea or fail in general so you can celebrate on time. you know anti anxiety meds are very powerful and doctors prescribe them to people for flights all the time
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Weird Al Yankadick posted:you know anti anxiety meds are very powerful and doctors prescribe them to people for flights all the time This. If you go to your doctor and say what you just said here you'll be so high you'll forget your even on a plane. Don't let your fears get in the way of your dreams! And $80/night x ~30 nights is a gently caress load of money to cross the Atlantic. Factor in food costs aboard boats and you might as well swim
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I LIKE COOKIE posted:where did you get this idea from? typically non-passenger ships don't just let people get on for fun. I don't think its quite like you imagine. usually to get a spot aboard you would have to have a merchant mariners license ( or certificate?) and he hired. Theres a ton of liability associated with letting random people aboard, and most companies flat out just wont do it. There was an article by some Danish guy working for the Red Cross last month or so, guessing that's where he got his inspiration.
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Weird Al Yankadick posted:you know anti anxiety meds are very powerful and doctors prescribe them to people for flights all the time This is actually a good reason to get on a cargo ship and leave America, don't encourage people get hooked on benzos, also please post stuff relating to giant boats with captains, seagulls and the like, cabin costs etc. I LIKE COOKIE posted:This. If you go to your doctor and say what you just said here you'll be so high you'll forget your even on a plane. My timing is poor, I already spoke to an American doctor many years too early and now I don't get the high part. Boats are cool and good and the thread remains open just in case anyone here has ever been sea cargo before. extra stout fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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Okay, well if your deadset on it, of course there is a way. You should consider crewing on a small sailing vessel. Go get ASA certified, basic is decent but intermediate is better if you hope to get hired on as crew. Atlantic crossings typically follow the tradewinds, so during a specific time of the year many boats will be making the crossing US to EU. There's whole websites dedicated to crewing in these boats, I'm sure you could find them easily. Depending on the boat size, you won't be able to bring tons of stuff, like a poo poo load of woodworking tools. Getting ASA certified takes very little time. I'd say you'd be good to go in under a month. Ps: lol at getting addicted by doing benzos once to overcome fear of flying. I'm not sure you understand what addiction even is.
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Something worth learning about the forums: People will reply with roughly the same sincerity that you put in and the tourism & travel forum is a better place for questions about crossing the ocean than bottom tier trolling even if I did post the initial thread at 6 am and only half coherent. Still I'm curious about a goon who's crossed the ocean on a big stinky ship. I did a search for the random mention of a Dane and the red cross but found nothing relevant.
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So... repositioning cruise? You responded to everything in the thread except for that, which is the cheapest, most realistic, and simple option. There will be a ton in late fall and mid spring as boats go to/from Europe and the Caribbean. It'll feel just like a cargo ship since they won't do any port calls, and the boat will be mostly devoid of tourists and activities. It'll just be you, 100+ of the Filipino crew (they're always Filipino fyi in case you were hoping for Captain Haddock) and a handful of old people who just like being on boats on the open seas.
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Saladman posted:So... repositioning cruise? You responded to everything in the thread except for that, which is the cheapest, most realistic, and simple option. There will be a ton in late fall and mid spring as boats go to/from Europe and the Caribbean. It'll feel just like a cargo ship since they won't do any port calls, and the boat will be mostly devoid of tourists and activities. It'll just be you, 100+ of the Filipino crew (they're always Filipino fyi in case you were hoping for Captain Haddock) and a handful of old people who just like being on boats on the open seas. Sorry about that, I will check it out. Cruise boats seem super greasy and generally not my thing, but with no drunk margarita vacation people they immediately sound a lot better. I wanted to read more about it before I replied.
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extra stout posted:Something worth learning about the forums: People will reply with roughly the same sincerity that you put in and the tourism & travel forum is a better place for questions about crossing the ocean than bottom tier trolling even if I did post the initial thread at 6 am and only half coherent. Still I'm curious about a goon who's crossed the ocean on a big stinky ship. I did a search for the random mention of a Dane and the red cross but found nothing relevant. I've crossed the Atlantic on cargo ships about a half dozen times. Got paid for it, too, which was pretty nice. Except... The first time was after I'd spent a year and a half in nautical college, full time. I wouldn't recommend it, it takes forever to get anywhere and all there is to do is watch DVDs and stare at the ocean. I took a forty percent pay cut to get a shore job so I wouldn't be so drat bored all the time. The first google result for "Cargo ship passenger" was this - http://cargoshipvoyages.com/ - I know literally nothing about these people, I can't endorse them or anything, but poo poo looks expensive. Incidentally, it's in the price range I was expecting. Oh and the schedule won't be convenient for your, just a heads up. I assume they'll stick to their announced ports, being container ships, but yeah... One time we had some riders onboard, we dropped them off a ten hour drive from where we were supposed to drop them off at. Company found a different cargo that paid better; them's the break. You'd probably want something like New York to Antwerp on a container ship. You'll absolutely need a passport, you will need to answer questions from customs and immigrations on both end of the journey, and it is very likely that you will have your belonging searched. Heck I got fingerprinted, once - and that was in a western country. Your opening post shows a stark naivete, and I don't think you've done a lot of research at all - most cruise ships aren't Norwegians (They're owned by a company owned by a company owned by mostly American shareholders, and registered in developing countries with comfortable regulations) and the average cargo ship doesn't do 24 knots. More like 12, 15 on a good day. That's something like 20 MPH. There are fears of people taking them over, so I'd expect you wouldn't be allowed to take anything that could be construed as a weapon; not TSA strict but yeah. Seriously, I would highly recommend talking to a therapist about your issues with flying. Planes are useful as heck, and if you want to travel oversea... They're your one reliable option. I've dealt with anxiety myself, still am dealing with it, and while making the first step is hard, it's absolutely worth it. EN has tons of resources.
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I've crossed the Pacific but not the Atlantic, and I can tell you you're a goddamned moron. You will hate it. You will really loving hate it. If the weather gets up, you'll be tied to your bed - I'm going out on a limb and assuming that you're not really an experienced seafarer - and puking so hard you will straight up wish you were dead. The food is poo poo. The accomodation won't be great. You will have nothing to loving do. For weeks on end. The crew will mock the living gently caress out of you. If you struggle with anxiety, I can absolutely promise you it will be far worse at sea when it hits you that you're in the middle of loving nowhere with no way out, no way off, nowhere to go, and nothing to do but sit in your head. This is really not a good idea. Have a chat to the guys in the maritime thread if you want: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3393222 But I think you'll find anyone else there will tell you the same as what I have. Comrade Blyatlov fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Feb 11, 2017 |
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FrozenVent posted:I've crossed the Atlantic on cargo ships about a half dozen times. Got paid for it, too, which was pretty nice. Except... The first time was after I'd spent a year and a half in nautical college, full time. I wouldn't recommend it, it takes forever to get anywhere and all there is to do is watch DVDs and stare at the ocean. I took a forty percent pay cut to get a shore job so I wouldn't be so drat bored all the time. Useful information thank you, and I did give it a few searches over the last week but I was hoping more for this kind of insight, maybe even down to a good company to avoid as many lovely variables popping up as possible. Also the idea about using cruise ships that are heading back empty, reposition cruises I think they're called was posted and one brand I remember my grandpa used to use (coincidentally my Norwegian grandpa) was called "Norwegian Cruise" which seems to actually be a Bermudan and American company, if that clears that confusion. I was avoiding the e/n direction because I'm specifically interested in the ship idea, and it's the wrong forum for it even if I wanted to entertain the forums that way. I've already got a therapist and he's great but it hasn't been helpful, so the trip east would be a good way to break it off without offending the man anyway, two birds with one stone. Let's say I get a slow one and the trip is double what the estimates I read about were: Sounds great, I've got a load of books I need to read. A lot of the things posted online are very dated, so I'm buying the passport now because I'd need it ultimately anyway even if the captain is a lawless pirate or something comical. Two Finger posted:I've crossed the Pacific but not the Atlantic, and I can tell you you're a goddamned moron. You will hate it. You will really loving hate it. Thanks for another quality reply, I don't know anything about long term seasickness and I do most of my fishing by shore but I've been on friend's speedboats and fishing boats a few times without any problem, sounds like the same thing about ten thousand times bigger and two weeks instead of two hours, alright maybe it sounds like I'd be better off sleeping most of it. If I continue to realize it might be lovely, or that I can't find a ship that does it in 8 or 9 days I'll admit I'm getting more open to just closing the thread eating five xanax before I get on a plane and just hoping I don't wake up to falling out of the sky. extra stout fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Feb 11, 2017 |
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extra stout posted:I've already got a therapist and he's great but it hasn't been helpful, so the trip east would be a good way to break it off without offending the man anyway Dude I ummm I don't really know how to say this but you really need to be talking to your therapist. I'd suggest you tell him about what your plans are with regards to this. About why you're planning to do it. That's ignoring the fact that you're worried about offending a professional who is paid to help you, if you're that conflict avoidant you won't do well on a ship if someone decides they don't like you and you cannot get away from them. It'll be a little different because you're a passenger, but people will get away with anything you let them get away with, and on a ship, you're a long loving way from anyone who might otherwise help you. If you want to do a geographical to get away from your problems, hell, give it a go, but I can't say enough that taking a plane is the far better option here.
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extra stout posted:Thanks for another quality reply, I don't know anything about long term seasickness and I do most of my fishing by shore but I've been on friend's speedboats and fishing boats a few times without any problem, sounds like the same thing about ten thousand times bigger and two weeks instead of two hours, alright maybe it sounds like I'd be better off sleeping most of it. If I continue to realize it might be lovely, or that I can't find a ship that does it in 8 or 9 days I'll admit I'm getting more open to just closing the thread eating five xanax before I get on a plane and just hoping I don't wake up to falling out of the sky. It does not compare to a two hour ride in a speedboat in any way. One time I got seasick. It lasted for three days straight. Not "Oh I have a headache and no appetite", straight up laying in bed and hoping to die and dragging myself to the bathroom to puke whenever there was something to puke. Three days. I've never wanted to die so badly in my life. Incidentally, I was also pretty sure I'd die because it was the worst storm of my career. Pretty sure if I'd been on one of the older ships I'd eventually sail on, I wouldn't be typing this post right now. Talk to your therapist, change therapist if you need to, but by all mean get through your fear of flying. A ship at sea is not a good place to be if you have mental health issues.
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Two Finger posted:That's ignoring the fact that you're worried about offending a professional who is paid to help you, if you're that conflict avoidant you won't do well on a ship if someone decides they don't like you and you cannot get away from them. You guys really like not posting about boats and being curious about my boring thought process but alright. The fact that I'm worried about offending a professional who helps me is pretty easily explained, the same way I am cautious and calculated when breaking up with a woman I don't see any reason to not be considerate of a psychologists' feelings. Everyone knows the idea of them being fully removed from the process is bullshit, the humanity of the fellow person with problems sitting across from you does not go away no matter how leather their chair is. Moving does not get away from your problems at all unless your problem is that you're allergic to the grass of your own homeland or the mafia has a hit on you or some other stupid made up concept. I know that when I wake up in another bed and look up at the ceiling that any unhappiness comes from the fact that it's still me laying there. The only part of your post that hasn't already been said and I'm curious about : How much experience do you have with sea brawlin' and sea rape? Not sure what the hell you meant about being in conflicts with the imaginary scurvy having criminals, or why you think being kind or making a joke makes someone incapable of addressing conflict. FrozenVent posted:It does not compare to a two hour ride in a speedboat in any way. One time I got seasick. It lasted for three days straight. Not "Oh I have a headache and no appetite", straight up laying in bed and hoping to die and dragging myself to the bathroom to puke whenever there was something to puke. Three days. I've never wanted to die so badly in my life. That sounds like it blew pretty hard, sorry about your misfortune. I have heard the bigger the ship the less you feel much, though I've only been on like ancient dining cruises in a local lake before the boat got so old they were forced to shut it down. I imagine the storm is the only really lovely variable that's hard to avoid. I've got time to figure it out, god drat you'd think $135 and proof of who I am would be plenty but I've got to find my original stamped birth certificate, make sure that the fact that I've moved since I got my last driver's license won't matter, and then make sure I frame my picture perfectly and don't smile or face the wrong angle or they'll deny my passport and hold things up for a few more weeks. extra stout fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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OP, try floating over in this:
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OP it's probably a bad idea to discount what people that have worked on commercial ships are trying to tell you about conditions on commercial ships. People get sea sick on cruise ships all of the time and those are pretty drat big. The ship being large certainly helps but a 40 ft swell is still a 40 ft swell.
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extra stout posted:That sounds like it blew pretty hard, sorry about your misfortune. I have heard the bigger the ship the less you feel much, though I've only been on like ancient dining cruises in a local lake before the boat got so old they were forced to shut it down. I imagine the storm is the only really lovely variable that's hard to avoid. The ship in my story was 700 feet long, weighed about 8,000 tons, and was carrying another 35,000 MT of cargo on top of that. We're not talking big by commercial ship standard, but we're not talking about a speedboat on a lake. My cabin was at the back, facing forward, and a good 20 feet above the deck which itself was a solid 30 feet above the water line. We'd do 12 knots on a good day, and the engine was something like 10,000 horsepower. We'd hit waves that would bring the ship to a shuddering stop (Again, 43,000 MT being pushed by 10,000 BHP), and that wave would crash against my window. Which was this thick steel-framed plate of glass, held closed by two 1/2" bolts against a rubber gasket. The fucker still leaked. Reminder, again, that this storm was only about 15% of our transatlantic trip (Baltic to the gulf of Mexico), yet it lasted about 6 times longer than a New York to Oslo flight would. Take a plane.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:OP, try floating over in this: lol
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:OP, try floating over in this:
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FrozenVent posted:The ship in my story was 700 feet long, weighed about 8,000 tons, and was carrying another 35,000 MT of cargo on top of that. We're not talking big by commercial ship standard, but we're not talking about a speedboat on a lake. My cabin was at the back, facing forward, and a good 20 feet above the deck which itself was a solid 30 feet above the water line. We'd do 12 knots on a good day, and the engine was something like 10,000 horsepower. I talked with a man once who almost sailed across the ocean once but was sunk by a storm about 70% near Ireland, and I would really appreciate such an end. I agree it actually sounds worse being trapped on a giant iron hell boat. Fleta Mcgurn posted:OP, try floating over in this: I did laugh at this, but for the record I just want to see the country my family left before the war and I am not doing a retarded fundraiser where I walk across America for 700 steps then use the money to buy a BMW and escape to Florida extra stout fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Feb 18, 2017 |
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Xaris posted:I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought this endeavor sounded eerily like the insane cart goon. Thanks, I didn't get why it was LOL-post-worthy until your post gave it context. lol indeed
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extra stout posted:I talked with a man once who almost sailed across the ocean once but was sunk by a storm about 70% near Ireland, and I would really appreciate such an end. I agree it actually sounds worse being trapped on a giant iron hell boat. Catch a plane dude 
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Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off—then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off—then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me. I don't think I'm going to travel there on a white whale, leaning more towards airplane due to the lack of good ship options left in this world, but I want to say thank you for a reply that made me laugh at my computer monitor screen.
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Hey, man, why not do something like this? http://archaeologicaltrs.com/product/vikings/ You'll be physically safe and comfortable, and instead of just showing up dirty and wild-eyed, you can actually learn about your heritage. And give money to archaeologists. And not die.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Hey, man, why not do something like this? yeah do this but to be honest i think this guy is more of a danger to himself than anything
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Two Finger posted:yeah do this I agree. But I wonder if we can minimize the damage done if we manage to redirect his interest? I mean, Muerte was bound and determined to prove himself/make a huge change in the world, even fi that was completely ridiculous, but this guy seems more curious than anything else.
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Xaris posted:I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought this endeavor sounded eerily like the insane cart goon. I mean, the fact he even floated the idea of stowing away on a cargo ship then catching a ferry that he heard about and doesn't know the route of is pretty shady.
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Just to chime in, I don't work on ships but I work with seafarers and one of the most pressing issues for a lot of seafarers is that working aboard ships is miserable, lonely, and can mean being surrounded by assholes you can't escape. Like, on some vessels you have to lock your cabin or your shipmates steal from you. Getting onto a port is a huge process and security is very tight. I think that if you do this it's not going to feel like a romantic adventure - it's going to be a bunch of hassle and expense and then it's going to feel like being locked into a tiny apartment building with no internet and no cable tv that smells like oil and has a giant engine running constantly. Even if you don't get seasick, you will almost certainly be bored out of your mind for way longer than you will want to be. Plenty of seafarers are awesome, but you're not going to be part of the crew and you will almost certainly not get any kind of positive social engagement - professional seafarers often struggle with loneliness, and they have people they work with to talk to. Basically even if you can do this it would probably suck for you a lot more than you think.
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Notahippie posted:Just to chime in, I don't work on ships but I work with seafarers and one of the most pressing issues for a lot of seafarers is that working aboard ships is miserable, lonely, and can mean being surrounded by assholes you can't escape. Like, on some vessels you have to lock your cabin or your shipmates steal from you. Getting onto a port is a huge process and security is very tight. I think that if you do this it's not going to feel like a romantic adventure - it's going to be a bunch of hassle and expense and then it's going to feel like being locked into a tiny apartment building with no internet and no cable tv that smells like oil and has a giant engine running constantly. Even if you don't get seasick, you will almost certainly be bored out of your mind for way longer than you will want to be. Plenty of seafarers are awesome, but you're not going to be part of the crew and you will almost certainly not get any kind of positive social engagement - professional seafarers often struggle with loneliness, and they have people they work with to talk to. yeah this also the theft part which sucks loving dick when it happens, but your stuff is gone and you'll never see it again
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Notahippie posted:Just to chime in, I don't work on ships but I work with seafarers and one of the most pressing issues for a lot of seafarers is that working aboard ships is miserable, lonely, and can mean being surrounded by assholes you can't escape. Like, on some vessels you have to lock your cabin or your shipmates steal from you. Getting onto a port is a huge process and security is very tight. I think that if you do this it's not going to feel like a romantic adventure - it's going to be a bunch of hassle and expense and then it's going to feel like being locked into a tiny apartment building with no internet and no cable tv that smells like oil and has a giant engine running constantly. Even if you don't get seasick, you will almost certainly be bored out of your mind for way longer than you will want to be. Plenty of seafarers are awesome, but you're not going to be part of the crew and you will almost certainly not get any kind of positive social engagement - professional seafarers often struggle with loneliness, and they have people they work with to talk to. I was going to let this thread die as the idea is confirmed bad by everyone I've talked to, but this appreciated in my current more lucid state. It is sort of poo poo to know there is no real middle ground between insanely regulated airports and being on a big stinky boat and saying "Hey I'm missing a suitcase" like the guy steering the ship is gonna come strip search everyone. Guess I'll be using airplanes again, even if they are absolute rear end. The passport paperwork isn't as bad as I expected, just have to decide how much money to save up before I do the trip.
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