The Great Goon War: Entente High Command

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Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Give me the lucky 99

# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 23:53

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Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Hacker voice Im in

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 04:19

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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So, I think its practical to assume that the Germans will claim the NE hill like so

Im willing to bet a division goes there quicklike.

The real question to me is, does their other division come from the west...

or the north?

edit: Important questions to come out of this: How fast can a german division take the NE hill, emplace artillery, and overlook the center city?

Loel fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Feb 12, 2017

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 04:49

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Okay, so if we're assuming they come from the north..

Where will we be on the road approach when they are able to take the hills? Im concerned about getting hammered by hill artillery while we are on the roads.

If we assume they take the north hills, do we want to try an oblique flank?

Loel fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Feb 12, 2017

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 04:59

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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xthetenth posted:

If we go with an oblique flank, I'd want to be a bit more aggressive, setting up in the Fraise-champs with firepower to hurt their ability to reinforce as easily.

If the oblique can fold their flank, I can see that working pretty well.

edit: If someone can sketch where they would be at 4th turn (along hills) and where we would be on approach, that would be much appreciated.

Loel fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Feb 12, 2017

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 05:12

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Actually, there might be an opportunity here. If they split their forces to both hills, we could use arty support on Clemencau and infantry from La Cote to roll Pastuer Ridge at 2:1 numbers.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 05:33

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Tehan posted:

Turn Four:

There are four possible scenarios based on four possible starting locations: northwest corner, western side of northern edge, eastern side of northern edge, and northeast corner. I have colour-coded each of these entry zones, and marked possible enemy infantry positions for each of them at the end of turn four.

A solid line indicates that they have had time to unlimber any guns they may have. An arrow indicates that they are only just arriving in this position at the end of turn 4.

This does not take into account the unknown movement penalty from hills, or the possible positions of any enemy cavalry.

This is really good work, thank you.

What do you think the best/worst case scenario would be?

edit: and how can we find out which one we're facing?

Loel fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Feb 12, 2017

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 05:39

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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thatbastardken posted:

For the record, all current division level planning seems to be focused on modifications of Plan Chardonnay, responding to the various colour cases for German advance

quote:

The big difference between the two Plans in the initial stages appears to be how aggressive Red Group is towards La Cote / Baguette.

Chardonnay

Pinot Noir

Like so.

So the question is, what is the latest turn we can make the decision point between the two plans? And, what do the cavalry need to be seeing for us to do one over the other?

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 15:53

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Bacarruda posted:

There is no choosing. We can do one or we can do the other. But the slow speed of forces and the slowness of communications means we have to pick one.

At this point the consensus appears to be towards a modified Chardonnay plan.

Can we get a confirmation of that from my dad? Just to be sure we're all on the same page :v:

Chardonnay Red

Chardonnay Blue

Chardonnay Yellow

Chardonnay Purple

Priorities are going to be
Cavalry to Toillettes-champs, are we facing Red or Blue?
Cavalry to Baguende, are we facing Yellow or Purple?

edit: Im astonished to say there are wine bottles for each of those. So I guess the subalterns better be ready.

Loel fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Feb 12, 2017

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 18:33

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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"UP AND AT'EM UP AND AT'EM"

"LUCKY" 99TH WILL TAKE CLEMENCEAU AT ALL POSSIBLE SPEED

99TH HQ WILL DEPLOY TO THE TOWN ITSELF

INFANTRY WILL ADVANCE NORTH TO THE EDGE OF THE HEIGHTS

ARTILLERY WILL EMPLACE BEHIND THEM

ANY SIGHTINGS OF THE ENEMY WILL BE REPORTED IMMEDIATELY TO DIVISION HQ AND NEIGHBORING BRIGADES

GOOD LUCK

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 22:17

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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my dad posted:

WE HAVEN'T YET STARTED BRIGADE LEVEL ORDERS OFFICIALLY.

(the above can stand for now, but wait until the go-ahead has been given)

Bacarruda posted:

22nd Division (Blue) will do this.

Our attached 6th Cavalry Brigade will rush to the Friase-champs farm and set up defensive positions.

99th Brigade(+) will take Clemenceau with infantry and artillery and set up over-watch positions.
98th Brigade will assault Saint Croissant.
96th Brigade will assault the Bois de Gooneville.
97th Brigade(+) will scout the Le Oeuf with its attach cavalry company and then take the high ground. It will emplace artillery to overwatch St. Croissant and entrench using its engineers.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 22:43

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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AbortRetryFail posted:

Drawing commands:
Lower bayonet into dirt / raise bayonet from dirt

Let's make some sick artwork

The column will advance at a walk

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 02:23

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Also, 22nd Div currently calls for 1 more cav company that we actually have.
There's also 4 Corps 75mm guns and 2 155 guns that are not currently attached to a brigade.

Really could do with some cannon near me :v:

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 04:05

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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"UP AND AT'EM UP AND AT'EM"

Initial Positions

99th Brigade shall follow the cavalry west to Clemenceau
99th Brigade has road priority after cavalry, but before anyone else

Final Positions. Unit shall dig in here.
Enemy units will be fired upon as sighted

Standing orders

When sighting an enemy on Attack stance: Keep moving along original path
When attacking the enemy: Use rifle / MG / artillery fire
When an enemy company Breaks Off or Retreats Suppressed: Fire from dug in positions, artillery fire support
Break Off automatically when: 2/3 casualties are taken

Once other brigades advance into Croissant, non-artillery units shall advance and support.
Artillery will remain on the ridgeline and support by fire.

Like so

Standing orders

When sighting an enemy on Attack stance: Keep moving along original path
When attacking the enemy: Use rifle / MG / artillery fire
When an enemy company Breaks Off or Retreats Suppressed: Infantry advance by fire, Artillery fire from ridgeline
Break Off automatically when: 2/3 casualties are taken

Once Croissant is taken, artillery will move to the new location

When ordered, 99th will fire on Pastuer Ridge, OR advance into Bois de Goonville to support attack on Le Sanglant Femme

When order is given, Brigade will advance up Le Sanglant Femme

When order is given, Brigade will prepare for assault on Faibleimpot

When sighting an enemy on Attack stance: Keep moving along original path
When attacking the enemy: Use rifle / MG / artillery fire
When an enemy company Breaks Off or Retreats Suppressed: Infantry advance by fire, Artillery fire from emplacements
Break Off automatically when: 2/3 casualties are taken
Companies shall deploy in such a manner that they can fire upon the enemy
The above rule takes precedent over the broad stroke maps.

Tactical doctrine

Loel fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Feb 14, 2017

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 03:11

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Bacarruda posted:

99th Brigade(+) will take Clemenceau with infantry and artillery and set up over-watch positions.
98th Brigade will assault Saint Croissant.
96th Brigade will assault the Bois de Gooneville.
97th Brigade(+) will scout the Le Oeuf with its attach cavalry company and then take the high ground. It will emplace artillery to overwatch St. Croissant and entrench using its engineers.

These are the orders I have received.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 04:03

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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AbortRetryFail posted:

98th Brigade, 22nd Division

I have not made any specific plans other than I am going to a farm at some point to make sure they are clear of horses, and even that is up in the air.

Since I am going to be attacking what is probably an enemy stronghold (St. Crossaints) I'm waiting on the detailed division plan (If there are more details coming).

Improvise forcefully in the general direction of the enemy.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 04:12

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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So, this is highlight of all cities that rest on crossroads. I think its safe to say some/all of them will be enemy priorities.

These are possible entry points.

Path Red

Path Blue

Path Yellow

Path Purple

My personal hunch is a Blue or Yellow opening towards Saint Croissant/Graisse, but that can be disproved via cavalry in turn 3.

Loel fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Feb 14, 2017

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 22:34

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Do we need to write the posts in code, or can we assume a captured messenger will be translated?

# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 03:22

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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1. How do you feel the planning for this battle has gone, in general?

Very good. We have time tables this time!

2. How confident are you in the plans and orders that you personally have laid for this battle?

Phase 1 is solid, going to the Croissant and bombarding it. After that, it's a bit more complicated.

3. How confident are you in fulfilling the various objectives set by the Army Commander?

Objective 1, very confident. Objective 2, unlikely.

4. Is there any one aspect of the battle that seems to you will be most critical, on which success or failure is most likely to turn?

Effective coordination in the early game.

5. Thinking optimistically, what do you think the likely result of the battle will be?

Croissant conquered, troops on the NW mountains.

6. Thinking pessimistically, what do you think the likely result of the battle will be?

Everyone dies at Croissant

# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 03:17

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Lmaoooooooo

# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 03:33

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 19:47

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Okay, so.

Definitely dealing with Case Purple.

Tehan posted:

Even though we mostly dismissed it as unlikely, I'm glad my projections for Case Purple seem to be almost entirely on the money.

Spot loving on. Well done.

I count two divisions, we'll call them Alpha Bloc (red) and Bravo Bloc (blue)
Red appears to have four brigades, each with 12 infantry and 3 MG. Artillery is not identified.
Therefore, Alpha Bloc (red) has 48 infantry and 12 MG.
Blue appears to have three brigades of similar composition - I think it's safe to say there is a fourth brigade we are not observing.

If we assume they do not change orders, their avenue of approach appears to concentrate on Saint Croissant.

My question to the thread is, assuming our orders do not change, what happens in the next two turns?

edit: Based on that, are there any orders we need to change? And what happens if we do not succeed?

edit: Also! Based on what we see, what can we estimate they see of us? Do they know we have troops on Clemnceau as well?

Loel fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Feb 17, 2017

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 03:42

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Tehan posted:

It also doesn't seem like they've currently got eyes on our big guns that are going to be setting up to fire on the Baguette-St Croissant road just as their infantry lines start to reach it. That could be great fun.

The more I look at the situation the more hopeful I feel.

Yeah, unless their orders can switch to MOVE AWAY, in the dark, in a rush, we'll have guns set up in ~2 turns. Then we just pound their formations.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 03:58

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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German High Command at the moment

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 04:45

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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xthetenth posted:

Where's the combo of and when you need it?

Once we hear back from the plane, we can send the cav that way.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 05:18

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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thatbastardken posted:

there's a lovely continuous series of reactions as people come online and realize exactly how hosed the cluster is

Oh, also.

Bottles of Chardonnay Purple to the Staff

Loel fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Feb 17, 2017

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 05:24

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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I was rereading the thread, and I want to point out that we had this prepped for on page 5

You can see the broad strokes even here.

Aww yiss look at that prep work.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 05:40

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Slim Jim Pickens posted:

So, it occurs to me that the Germans have continued marching despite unquestionably sighting us on La Cote. This can only mean good things for Loel and his brigade of bloodthirsty artillerymen, who are poised to bombard an entire German division as they rush into St. Croissant.

This is the best day of my life :3:

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 06:07

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Tehan posted:

I would like the record to show that Loel is on the Clemenceau highlands instead of wandering over to La Oeuf because I pointed out how quickly the enemy could reach St Croissant and the dangers of them entrenching there

(look I'm about to do a glorious bayonet charge into a completely empty forest, I need to grab whatever glory I can)

I assure you, you will get the finest footnotes postdocs can write o7

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 06:12

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Plz tell me my main guns are firing :ohdear:

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 22:03

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Did Clemenceau lose our 155mm cannons? I dont see them :ohdear:

edit: Dunno if it it explicitly needs to be said, but Fire, for the love of God, fire!

edit 2:

It looks like all the strategic thinking happened while I was at work, but for the sake of the viewers ...

52nd Brigade takes the ridge, and then we just pound the cauldron.

Loel fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Feb 18, 2017

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 03:27

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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TRIN PLEASE PLACE MY CANNONS AND GO PEW PEW, ITS IN MY OP ORDER

Im assuming they are unlimbering this turn, but next turn they need to be firing.

(If they already unlimbered, just give them 2 turns of shooting or something :v:

)

thatbastardken posted:

Trin was spoken to, the howitzers will be returned...soon.

Oh good.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 03:39

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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thatbastardken posted:

some tactical observations:

the german formations seem to be much more clustered - is this an error which will restrict their infantry fire? or are they operating on different rules to us?

while they do have heavier concentrations of MGs and heavy artillery, if this becomes a maneuver battle (which it well might) those guns will rapidly become a liability.

They still seem to be stuck proceeding with their advance orders, and their attacks have been scattered bayonet rushes.

I honestly think we caught them with their pants down.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 03:56

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Placeholder in case orders go through before I get out of work.

Map for illustrative purposes. Brigade to stay in place.

Lucky 99th

Artillery when firing: Fire at all targets in range
Infantry/MG: Fire at all targets in range
When an enemy company Breaks Off or Retreats Suppressed: Do not pursue.
Break off automatically when: Stand to the last man

(Adjust placement as needed so cannons can fire, they take priority)

Loel fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Feb 18, 2017

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 04:30

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Initial concept of their objectives

I think its plausible to think this was their original plan of approach. They may try to push through still, although we have a fuckton of arty along that avenue. Lets call that their Plan A.

If they don't want to try to push through the south-east, they might try to go west and consolidate.

Artillery in the hills, surviving infantry in the woods and town

This would allow them to block our advance on our final objective, and/or let them try their objective again. The big thing is that they would have the high ground and we would have to advance under their guns. Call this Plan B.

... Assuming, of course, they don't try for Plan C, the Cauldron.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 04:53

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Bacarruda posted:

Loel, there is an issue with your artillery orders. Check the last page.

Edited accordingly.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 04:55

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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After discussion with tbk, I think it likely that they will attempt to salvage the northern division, while using the southern as a rearguard. We cant harass the northern in time to prevent them from moving west, while the southern division is already in combat with us.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 05:14

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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We're fine, its fine :ohdear:

# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 22:19

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Uh ... huh.

..

First question. Did my 155s fire this round, and are they still alive

# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 03:15

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 00:40

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

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Looks like they went with Plan C, Cauldron

We can probably write off everyone in the encircled area. We have cannon, they have MGs, I think they'll be holding the city at the end of it.

Which effectively means they have forces split by Pastuer Ridge, with the stronger side on the western half.

This puts us in the interesting position of being able to roll the eastern side of things, while our western line is artillery without infantry.

Therefore I expect the final results to look like this.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 03:39

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