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DTurtle
Apr 10, 2011


MassRafTer posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=608lhcWH52I

The first two games are out of this world.

The rest...not so much.

I don't usually listen to the interviews but I had to this time and the interviewer's first question to Mini had the vibes of "Mr. Burns your campaign seems to have the momentum of a run away freight train. Why are you so popular?" except completely justified, maybe understating how good Mini was.

After coming from the high from the first Round of 4 match, this one was somewhat disappointing. Feels like Effort had a really bad day or bad prep or something.

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Escape Goat
Jan 30, 2009

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

few things in life make me happier than good hold position lurkers

The anticipation as that clump of marines and medics converge on top of them :kiss:

animatorZed
Jan 2, 2008
falling down
At least it won't be a ZvZ finals! :v:

Escape Goat
Jan 30, 2009

Effort... oof. That's a shame he had such a bad series, he was on such a streak.

And ^^^^ ZvZ finals might have been amazing this year? :)

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

it was a good series imo. solid holds
https://youtu.be/wMmXCKxwa0k

Gmaz
Apr 3, 2011

New DLC for Aoe2 is out: Dynasties of India
Tastosis casted ASL finals are out! Some sweet games there :getin:

Gmaz fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Oct 17, 2023

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



so who does this leave as the best player to have not won an asl? rush? soma? i'd have said snow a few seasons ago but snow has fallen off real hard, real fast

anyway great finals, especially game 2 and the final game

DTurtle
Apr 10, 2011


DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

so who does this leave as the best player to have not won an asl? rush? soma? i'd have said snow a few seasons ago but snow has fallen off real hard, real fast

anyway great finals, especially game 2 and the final game

Yeah, there were some good games in there. Quite interesting to see the absurd macro at play in the various games. It really was the deciding factor.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

so who does this leave as the best player to have not won an asl? rush? soma? i'd have said snow a few seasons ago but snow has fallen off real hard, real fast

anyway great finals, especially game 2 and the final game


Snow is suppose to be amazing on ladder. Maybe live event nerves get to him.

Escape Goat
Jan 30, 2009

DTurtle posted:

Yeah, there were some good games in there. Quite interesting to see the absurd macro at play in the various games. It really was the deciding factor.

This tournament was fun as hell to watch. The Hive tech ZvZ matches were a treat. I'm going to keep throwing them Patreon bux, hope they keep going for a long time.

AtillatheBum
Oct 6, 2010

Justice ain't gonna dispense itself.
Was there a 3rd place match or does ASL not do those anymore?

DTurtle
Apr 10, 2011


They cut the 3rd place match last season.

Khorne
May 1, 2002

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

best player to not win an asl
By the S1-S11 numbers, Bisu is the only player with a >55% win rate in ASL to not win one. Flash (75% T, 73% random), Queen/Zero (62%), Effort (62%), Rain (60%), Last (59.5%) have all won. Bisu sat at a 61% win rate and made the finals in S1 but has never won. And that's every player who has >55% win rate -- I left none out. Soma & Hero were around 54% then.

The numbers are brutal and so close to 50% for the top ~25 players. Going by win rate favors the older players who started near their peak and discounts some players like snow, mini, light (44% WR but won an ASL) who improved significantly since S1.


I'd like to see snow win one, preferably vs T. He got 3-0d by hero 2 seasons ago after group stages, the season after that he lost to light then soulkey in ro16, and this season he lost in the ro24 to Royal & Killer. I remember the killer game. Snow loses a lot to zerg.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Oct 27, 2023

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
Whoops

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Artosis casted a game with an example of an old (and apparently quite rare) bug:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkI5wcRUDPo&t=580s
(at 9:40 if the timer doesn't work)

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMYcwoQkWQc

Some crazy statistics.

There are pro starcraft players with >80% win rates in ASL in certain matchups.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

If you want to watch a TvT with FlaSh vs FantaSy, here's your chance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKtbzY_0oHA

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.
Not any sort of competitive game but pretty sure this is the only relevant place to post this

https://youtu.be/hKX7eTzr-y4

defmacro
Sep 27, 2005
cacio e ping pong

Fellis posted:

Not any sort of competitive game but pretty sure this is the only relevant place to post this

https://youtu.be/hKX7eTzr-y4

huh this looks nifty! they might also like it in the other starcraft thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3965681&perpage=40&pagenumber=1&noseen=1

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Which ASL season did Flash play random in?

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

MassRafTer posted:

Which ASL season did Flash play random in?

10

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Thanks! All the Flash Zerg and Protoss ladder games had me wondering what this run was like.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I forgot the Ogre Zerg Gamer origin was in Season 10. I watched the highlights of this game but forgot when it happened.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

I enjoyed this game. Good back-and-forth, hard to predict who wins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1w7HKcVDMw

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Artosis has been casting a 14 game ladder series between Rain and ZeLot that was really wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3EL57hz2w

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
Woohoo, ASL is back

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Fozzy The Bear posted:

Woohoo, ASL is back

Wildcard Round here.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Sharp vs JyJ got pretty wild. Also lol at the first game of the final match.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Fozzy The Bear posted:

Woohoo, ASL is back

hell yeah

tournament starts for real february 26th so we still have some down time but the wildcard match was a nice appetizer

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.
Sharp vs JyJ was good, also interesting to see new evolutions in ZvZ being the fastest matchup

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

I want another late game hive level ZvZ damnit, that was really cool last season

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
This seems to have been uploaded after I was going through old GOMTV tournaments when I was reminded competitive Starcraft was a thing I watched, so if anyone wants to watch horrible quality 2008 GOMTV Invitational with fast talking Tasteless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tioTyedr76c

anchorpunch
Mar 30, 2006
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LH5nCwtgg5E
KCM week 6 with some truly amazing games, sharp vs bisu is broodwar at its best.
Really like the caster team too, I highly recommend watching this :)

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
We are back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_LcMkuAiGw

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

The problem with Troy becoming clear very quickly.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Group A and B matches were ok but Group C had some really good ones.

Ocean of Milk
Jun 25, 2018

oh yeah
Spoilers for round A: Pros React To Sea's Legendary ASL S17 Run (ASL S17, Group A)

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Holy poo poo this is incredible.

Dave47
Oct 3, 2012

Shut up and take my money!

Nostalgamus posted:

The problem with Troy becoming clear very quickly.
Groups B and C were mercifully Troy-free. Let's hope the streak continues! As gimmick maps go, Troy is no 76. (Bring back 76.)
This is great! And it's made better by the anticipation of their reactions to the Best/Action match in Group C.

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Group D is finally up. They recorded it in their hotel room and it does not sound great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryz_fZrc3jI

Tasteless also casted a really fun game recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naNoAR7XI2U

MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Mar 9, 2024

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