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dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Legacy games "sold out" in Blizzard's online store:
https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/legacy-games

I think it's gonna happen.
edit someone already posted this sorry

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dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

The "I <3 Starcraft" event is about to start, reveal incoming?

AfreecaTV Global: https://www.afreeca.tv/2017gsl
Twitch.tv: https://www.twitch.tv/gsl
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfreecaTVLive

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

StarCraft Remastered just got announced. Game being patched for the first time since 2001, LAN latency, matchmaking, anti-cheat, Fish server natively supported, it's going to be free.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

drat I wish this was double elim so we could see JD vs bisu

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

The I <3 StarCraft tournament had ~13,000 viewers on twitch when I was watching and it was on at odd hours in NA/EU timezones, I think the commentators said the afreeca stream had hundreds of thousands.

And that tournament was announced less than a week in advance. I think Brood War could be really popular.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Snow got a bad group his PvT is so insane but it looks like his PvZ is still kinda bad. Having to play on Outsider probably didn't help.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWVLa4zTMM

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016



Elyv posted:

Stork played absolutely nothing like Bisu. Bisu quite possibly has the best mechanics in the history of Starcraft, but wasn't particularly creative. Stork's mechanics were solid but not great, but he was far more creative in his builds and his large army control was superb.

That said I'll never forget that game 5 where Bisu beat Stork in the MSL finals and in like a 40 minute game Stork never upgraded Dragoon range :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5qoYnkXrlM



very good old youtube channel I re-found today
https://www.youtube.com/user/MyDigitalToss

example video of an epic bisu game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjzH69xlS_Q

dogmother1776 fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Apr 25, 2017

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Last vs Larva today was very cool to watch, Korean casters saying it was one of the most perfectly won games this season.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Compare Hyun vs flash from last week with effort vs sea this week

Identical builds, different race wins

jaedong vs Last on Sunday could be the best match of this whole tournament if it happens.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

can't wait to watch these games later I hope JD killed it

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

drat that sucks but at least JD didn't die to a sunken bust lol

This new thing Last does with vultures is pretty cool. Before terrans would defend till 1 vessel then push zerg's third with 1 vessel, 2/3 tanks, and bio.

Last has been going from 3 barracks to vultures with upgrades and he mines the path from the zerg main to the third so re-enforcements get blown up. Basically gets him total map control. The mutas can't keep up with speed vultures and zerg can't travel between their bases (or counter attack) because of mines. Then he already has factories, map control, and lots of time for the mech switch. It has to be less apm intensive too because you can shift click vultures and mines and forget about them.

Makes sense why Effort and Hyun were doing that weird build where they got fast drops and go for island bases.

So Last is probably playing Flash and he isn't going to win that match :P

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Soulkey vs best this weekend in the quarterfinals

I think soulkey wins 2-0 (I assume it's bo3). Soulkey already beat bisu in the group stage and bisu has way better PvZ than Best.

Best is one of my favorite protosses but I think it's better if soulkey wins because he's the only Zerg likely to make it out. Shine is cool but I don't see him beating mong in a bo3.

I think the round of 4 is gonna be:
Soulkey
Mong
Bisu
Flash

Last might be better than Flash right now in practice games but flash's set play and experience give him a huge advantage imo.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

yeah 2-0 is probably optimistic but I want soulkey to win cause last Zerg. the momentum of 2-0 would be great to have against flash/last in quarters.

Though best vs flash would be an awesome match to watch and probably closer than SK vs Flash. idk maybe I'm going to change my mind now :)

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

lmao all of those games were great bisu Protoss micro god

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Shine vs Mong was the coolest series ever and I hope Shine wins the whole tournament now. He wasn't lying when he said he had secret strats in the interview.

Shine must face Bisu now though :ohdear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3uDIjF_B0

dogmother1776 fucked around with this message at 05:27 on May 17, 2017

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Elyv posted:

Shine beating Bisu is a thing I can see happening. If Flash is in the finals though as he's expected to be, I just don't think Shine's cute tricks will work. Flash has a lot of strengths, but I feel like what truly sets him apart is game sense and crisis management.
Anticipating something like this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yzDGNBKplVw

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

TWO ZERGS IN THE TOP 4

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Bottom Liner posted:

Are there any other big tournaments besides ASL currently?

SSL Classic
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SSL_Classic_Season_1

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Shine vs Bisu should be Sunday at normal time.

Shine > Bisu
Soulkey > Flash
=
ZvZ finals lmao everyone loses

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

I want to try to watch live Sunday and cheer for Shine. Need to see what's left in his secret stash of builds.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Elyv posted:

Fun fact of the day: Shine was 5-5 vs Bisu in the old days

man I remember how pissed people were about that first OSL series back in the day, I'm excited for this even though I think Bisu has to be favored

I don't think bisu has ever beat Shine in a set? :O

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

it's 2-1 Shine and Outsider is next

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

WDIIA posted:

btw yall, there are no Protoss temples on Outsider

Anakins Hopkin's Podracer!

loool gg Shine

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

so Shine only beat Flash once in pro play, and it happened to be with a proxy hatchery build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-NHVdG6r3w

I think the dream finals starts with Flash losing to a build like that. I'm super excited to see those special builds Shine has prepared specially for Flash.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Feeling good about Shine's chances. Soulkey took Flash to game 5 with some wacky builds. Shine has builds prepared for prime-Flash that apparently have huge win rates in practice.

Flash beat Shine in group stage but it was on Camelot and that map is Terran favored.

I think if Shine can win 1 of the first two maps, either Circuit Breaker or Camelot, his chances are extremely good cause he should win on Outsider.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Those stats are like 8 years old though, it has seemed really zerg favored recently like I would be surprised to see it back next season even though it's a really cool map.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

I think main focus right now in TvZ is zerg's 3rd gas and it feels relatively easy on Outsider cause Terran must use drops to threaten the 3rd. There hasn't been a ton of games played but the ones I have seen it always seems like zerg is winning.

Like Zerg doesn't do stuff like 2 hatch muta anymore so it's either win with lings or you must get a 3rd gas to win vs Terran.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Shine's gonna win this ya'll just watch

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

lol Shine isn't even in the intro, he's totally gonna win

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

holy moley 2 hatch muta

edit "2 hatch muta"

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

That build was so cool...

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Looks very ugly for Shine right now SK Terran is extremely strong on this map.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

They changed the map order for finals? Andromeda is first?

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016


Jesus Christ

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ4O4mu1OrM#t=9m

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

I was thinking that there were ASL qualifiers this weekend. Anyone know about a stream for that?

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Elyv posted:

I think afstar1 has vods. I wasn't able to watch at all, though

Thanks. There seems to be events in other cities this weekend but those won't have an official stream.

this is who made it so far, ripped from TL.net:

Seeded: (T)Flash, (Z)Shine, (P)Bisu, and (Z)Soulkey.
Group 1 winner: (Z)by.hero
Group 2 winner: (T)Sea
Group 3 winner: (T)Last
Group 4 winner: (P)Mini
Group 5 winner: (P)BeSt
Group 6 winner: (Z)Jaedong
Group 7 winner: (Z)EffOrt
Group 8 winner: (P)Shuttle
Group 9 winner: (T)Light
Group 10 winner: (P)Rain
Group 11 winner: (Z)Larva
Group 12 winner: (T)sSak

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Quaint Quail Quilt posted:

Me either really, 2 giant videos are up, but no amount of buffering in any browser makes them watchable for more than 30 seconds at a time.
Maybe there is too much demand, not enough bandwidth on their end.

You can use this site to download afreeca vods if you want: http://d-c.kr/

Just paste the vod URL.

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dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016

Light 2-0
Sea 2-1
Larva 1-2
Sky 0-2

Stork 2-0
Last 2-1
MIsO 1-2
sSak 0-2

effort 2-0
Mind 2-1
Lazy 1-2
Rush 0-2

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