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goatface posted:That is still a big step down from UN Secretary-General. I think I'd rather be a goofy looking horse-man, and I don't particularly want to be a goofy looking horse-man. Although I wonder, is he more horse than a man, or is he more man than a horse?
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Kofi was kind of cool in early Power Pack when it was a straight-up Heinlein juvenile and he was their alien buddy. They didn't make him Snarf.Edge & Christian posted:Uh... I know Julie Power is named after Louise Simonson's daughter (Walt's stepdaughter), who would've been a teenager at the time the book was released. Then again, Marvel in the '80s did a lot of self-referential humor in that same vein. For example, Henry Peter Gyrich, especially early on, is blatantly based on Jim Shooter. Byrne was doing that to gently caress with people.
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Edge & Christian posted:It is very sad to look back and realize every time Mike Adamle yelled out JAMAICAN ME CRAZY he may have been referring to his concussion related dementia. Jesus Christ Poor guy though really
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Wanderer posted:Then again, Marvel in the '80s did a lot of self-referential humor in that same vein. For example, Henry Peter Gyrich, especially early on, is blatantly based on Jim Shooter. Byrne was doing that to gently caress with people. Byrne definitely drew Jim Shooter as a villain in the Legends mini-series and had him more or less kill himself via bungling a fight with Guy Gardner as he insisted he was powerful and smart though. Also because a lot of old guard Marvel people (not all of whom hated Shooter, contrary to popular belief) there's sort of a throughline (which has been acknowledged somewhere, though I can't find it at the moment) that whenever anyone sort of pushed the throttle on "Henry Peter Gyrich, evil monster bureaucrat" someone would try to pull back and do a soft "Henry Peter Gyrich, well-meaning patriotic but grating bureaucrat" throughout the 1980s and 1990s. Of course by the 21st century there was a total enough turnover that they seem to have gone whole hog with "Henry Peter Gyrich, Nazi collaborator, Sentinel Extermination Booster, Brainwashed Killing Machine Creator."
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Day 9: Manslaughter Sorry, I don't have much to add on this one either as I'm not really familiar with him at all. He looks pretty goofy though.  
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Feb 18, 2017 20:27
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Feb 18, 2017 20:35
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He looks about 14. Like he would be head boy in the superhero middle school.
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Feb 18, 2017 21:30
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Does he have buck teeth?
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Feb 18, 2017 21:54
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That dude looks like Archie and Cletus Kasady had an annoying son.Edge & Christian posted:I mean, Byrne hated Jim Shooter and Byrne did a whole ton of petty poo poo in his 1980s comics (including killing everyone in Pittsburgh in the New Universe because that's Shooter's home town) but... Gyrich was created *by* Jim Shooter at least in part as a rib on himself (Gyrich was a stick in the mud from Pittsburgh who imposed rules no one liked but weren't done maliciously) but he doesn't physically resemble Shooter in anyway and to my knowledge Byrne never handled the character except when he penciled a few issues of the Avengers that David Micheline wrote. I have an old Fantagraphics book, The X-Men Companion, Volume II, which contains a bunch of interviews with Claremont, Byrne, Terry Austin, and Louise Jones, done in the early '80s when New Mutants was still in the planning stages. The interview with Byrne goes into how most of his characters are visually based on somebody real. Typically it's actors, but when Gyrich showed up in Uncanny #142, Byrne based him on Shooter. Also, Kitty Pryde's mother is apparently based heavily on Mary Jo Duffy.
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X-O posted:Day 9: Manslaughter I see the name and the picture and I'm like awesome, I'm about to be treated to an 80's man hating SCUM manifesto stereotype. Disappointment follows.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:59
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Man's Laughter would be a pretty good name for a pretty bad band.
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Wanderer posted:The interview with Byrne goes into how most of his characters are visually based on somebody real. Typically it's actors, but when Gyrich showed up in Uncanny #142, Byrne based him on Shooter. Also, Kitty Pryde's mother is apparently based heavily on Mary Jo Duffy. Looking at this panel someone posted online I don't really see the resemblance:   But it makes a lot more sense in Uncanny X-Men #142, just a few months after Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter screwed up their Dark Phoenix plans, to throw some shade at Shooter, as opposed to in Avengers when Shooter wasn't yet EIC and was *writing* Avengers platooning Byrne and Perez as two artists getting their first "big title" break. Then again, I am more confused than before about who designed Gyrich initially because everything seems to say it was Shooter/Perez but Byrne appears to have drawn the character the first time he appears unnamed? Also I apparently *wrote about this exact thing five years ago*. Anyway, he actually looks kind of more like Shooter/Frankenstein in that first appearance than he does circa UXM142, but maybe Terry Austin softened it up. As for Manslaughter, I don't remember anything specifically about him, but I picked up two of his only appearances out of quarter bins as a kid, almost solely on the basis of sweet covers:   Also because I liked FINAL ISSUES because they seemed really important back in the 1980s. Partially because this book somehow ran 152 issues! What sort of epic wrap-up must that warrant? Also Jim Shooter had a real love for closing up any loose ends and sealing up the toy box so the last issue of the Defenders features the death of almost the entire team. And what legends they were! Valkyrie! (who to be fair was also in my dad's old Defenders comics from the 1970s) Moondragon! (ditto, but also she was already back from the dead like three years later when I bought this comic) Andromeda! Gargoyle! The Interloper! And Manslaughter! The character who had only joined the team the issue before! Apparently Manslaughter came back from the dead after this profile, to appear in a single issue of the 1990s CAGE mini-series in a montage of assassins.
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Wanderer posted:That dude looks like Archie and Cletus Kasady had an annoying son. He sort of reminds me of Popsicle Pete (from whom none of us are safe).
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Day 10: The Collector I'm sure everyone is familiar with this guy, at least from the Guardians of the Galaxy film if nowhere else. He's one of the Elders of the Universe. One time holder of the Reality Gem he traded it to Thanos. He's had many different designs over the years, this one might be the weirdest though. Most times when The Collector shows up you won't find The Grandmaster far behind.  
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lol he had an infinity stone but "did not understand its power"? what a chump.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:lol he had an infinity stone but "did not understand its power"? what a chump. To be fair that's like pretty much everyone who has had an infinity gem at some point
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Yeah, of the elders that had them before Thanos I think Runner, Collector, and Champion didn't understand how the gems worked at all. Gardener and Grandmaster understood them a little more.
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Yeah and then like 4/5 of the Infinity Watch were kinda whatever about it.
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Endless Mike posted:Yeah and then like 4/5 of the Infinity Watch were kinda whatever about it. Moondragon made good work of the Mind Gem. Pip used the Space Gem pretty much only for teleportation. Drax ate the Power Gem because he thought it was a Jelly Bean and used it subconsciously. I don't remember Gamora using the Time Gem at all outside of her occasional visions. And Thanos was the secret member with the Reality Gem so I don't think he ever used it. So yeah really only Warlock and Moondragon used the Gems to their potential.
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X-O posted:Day 10: The Collector Has various bases and starships around the known universe. Oh, and a place in Vermont of course.
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Wasn't there a thing with Warlock saying he trusted the watch with the gems because they wouldn't understand them enough to use them properly?
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Sounds like something that prick would say.
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450lbs? What a tubster.
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X-O posted:Drax ate the Power Gem because he thought it was a Jelly Bean ... where can I read this?
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Is everyone with a cape required to lift it off to the side to show their butt? THEY'RE NOT PIECES OF MEAT 
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redbackground posted:Is everyone with a cape required to lift it off to the side to show their butt? As E&C talked about above, this version of the OHOTMU was at least intended to be used as reference guides for the characters in it. So obviously they have to show off their butts so artists know how their costume looks in the butt area.
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Endless Mike posted:As E&C talked about above PFFF reading others' posts 
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Zombie Dachshund posted:... where can I read this? I want to say it's in the first issue or so of the Warlock and the Infinity Watch series from the '90s. It's Big Dumb Kid Drax rather than the current Knife-Wielding Assassin Drax, however. Now that I think about it, the movie kind of splits the difference between the two.
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Zombie Dachshund posted:... where can I read this? Warlock and the Infinity Watch #2. redbackground posted:Is everyone with a cape required to lift it off to the side to show their butt? Yes. Case in point. Day 11: Karnilla Queen of Nornheim and a one time frequent Thor character. I can't even remember the last time Karnilla showed up in a comic. Maybe that mess with Ulik after Fear Itself?  
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475lbs. She must have some serious bone density.
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i don't think anyone uses her because she is more of a balder villain than a thor one, and no one gives a gently caress about balder.
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goatface posted:475lbs. She must have some serious bone density. drat! Are all the Asgardians that heavy?
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Yes, I think, this was back when people tried to explain Asgardian and Olympian strength and durability by saying they had incredibly dense bones, skin, and musculature.
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I believe Karnilla was the one that accidentally created the Wrecker.
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X-O posted:Day 9: Manslaughter Jesus Christ it's like if you put all the worst X-related designs in a blender and skimmed the scum off the top, that guy'd be the scum.
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Re the Collector design above, why does Marvel rely so much on humanoid like profiles for their alien people? Outside of newer stuff like the recent runs of the Fantastic Four and Foundation, and books like Annihilation, it seems like a serial lack of imagination. It isn't Star Trek, there should be no bounds on what they could think up.
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How's anybody going to do wrestling moves on each other then?
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Shageletic posted:Re the Collector design above, why does Marvel rely so much on humanoid like profiles for their alien people? Outside of newer stuff like the recent runs of the Fantastic Four and Foundation, and books like Annihilation, it seems like a serial lack of imagination. It isn't Star Trek, there should be no bounds on what they could think up. Then again, most aliens in comic books act remarkably similar to humans. These stories are typically about people, whether those people are from different boroughs of New York or different solar systems. The same motivations, same hang-ups, same vices, etc. Monsters and creatures should be more alien, but like the humanoids, if you have to spend too much time explaining what they are and how they work, it might be easier to just go with what we know.
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Now the TSR published Marvel Superheroes RPG had OFFICIAL Marvel Handbooks too! They didn't have all the characters in full color art of course, but let's see what it did look like, shall we? The Chief Examiner why the hell they ported this one to a pencil and paper RPG I'll never know.  Captain Ultra with a bizarrely different power set actually.  Red Ronin as a huge giant robot fan I approve of this character. Also weird because TSR didn't have the Godzilla license so Red Ronin had nobody in the Handbook to fight.  Manslaughter This one looks mildly less stupid.  The Collector The classic look which I always thought resembled a really pissed off Granny Goodness.  Karnilla Looking a lot less sleazy in this image. 
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