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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:yeah, that sure is a sleepwalker villain. if he is still alive he should team up with the orb. Some Googling says he got blowed up in a Daughters of the Dragon mini, but hell, if Hobgoblin can franchise the Porcupine he can franchise 8-Ball. Synthbuttrange posted:Orb, Mysterio, Ruby Thursday, any other sphere headed people I'm missing? Summoned by the Ghost of Oliver Cromwell to incinerate the British Crown Jewels, they are... the Roundheads!
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Bird-Man of the Ani-Men! You may have sucked, Bird-Man, but you played a part in killing an X-Man, so that ain't nothin'.
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Open Marriage Night posted:The Animen would be my jobbers of choice because the Wrecking Crew and Serpent Society are so played out. Man we're already getting the Spot as a badass enforcer type in Jessica Jones, what more do you want?
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Mar 17, 2017 06:50
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HitTheTargets posted:I haven't thought about it much, but I always assumed it was just as much a Claremontism as the body modification and "No quarter asked." To be fair if it has basically anything to do with mutants it stands a good chance of being a Claremontism considering that the X-Men were essentially his private fiefdom for almost two decades.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:43
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Lurdiak posted:I might be getting my stories confused, but I'm pretty sure the Hate-Monger who teamed up with Blastaar was secretly the Man-Beast, who's basically the Satan of Counter-Earth. He pretended to be Hate-Monger because he thought it was funny(the actual reason was probably just for the story to have a pointless twist). If the Internet has taught us anything it's that douchebags always think pretending to be Hitler is funny
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Mar 21, 2017 08:42
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Tilda is a great example of how there are no bad characters; she's been great in Nighthawk and now in Occupy Avengers.
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Mar 21, 2017 22:38
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X-O posted:This thread proves otherwise. Dude if you think 8-Ball is a bad character you have no soul
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Mar 21, 2017 23:03
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X-O posted:No, he's amazing. I'm talking like Razor Fist or Manslaughter or Trump or that little horse looking guy I can't remember the name of without looking. I duno, I don't think any of those guys are inherently bad characters. Hell, Manslaughter was actually kind of a neat idea (a psychotic assassin who basically gets shanghai'd into helping save the world), Razorfist is a dude so committed to swording people to death that he turns his hands into swords which means there's gotta be some great body horror poo poo to talk about there, Trump is a stage magician bank robber and I'm pretty sure that's an idea that the right writer can do cool poo poo with, and the little horse dude I barely remember anything about so maybe he's just irredeemable, but I doubt it. There's cool ideas to be found there. It's not that the characters are bad they've just been badly used. That's how I tend to look at it anyways. If we live in a world where the Spot can be a legit scary bad guy we shouldn't assume some characters have no potential IMHO.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:14
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Lobok posted:Occupation: destroyer *destroys Lobok*
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Mar 24, 2017 23:20
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Dear Marvel Handbook Thread: 8-Ball is in the new issue of Star-Lord that just came out today. And he is surprisingly awesome. I just thought you should know.
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Selachian posted:I'm gonna be that guy and say, wait, isn't the Wrecker's crowbar a powerful magic artifact? Shouldn't it be a bit harder for the Melter to make it go poof? If you want the in-continuity answer say it was his spare or some poo poo. If you want the real answer, it's a book written by Chip Zdarsky, don't think about it so hard man.
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Mar 30, 2017 14:49
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This is what Occult up there looks like without his helmet: The Resistants (which is what the big R is for) were actually kind of a neat idea; a bunch of Z-list mutants, once called "Mutant Force," who felt the Mutant Registration Act - this was back in the day when the US Government was only registering mutants, not every other superhero - was going to inevitably lead to them getting rounded up and put into camps, and were trying to protest against it. Naturally it turned out that they'd been organized by the Red Skull.
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Apr 1, 2017 07:33
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Lobok posted:Reading those Biographical Details is one wild ride. Huh; Xemnu's entry on the Unofficial Appendix to the Marvel Universe doesn't mention anything about it, and they're pretty completist about that kind of thing. Xemnu the Titan is awesome you guys.
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Apr 3, 2017 06:17
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hup posted:If she was a Squadron Supreme character, was she an analogue for anyone from DC? Nah, I don't think so; the Squadron Supreme miniseries introduced several characters who didn't map directly on to DC characters, like Haywire and Quagmire and Lamprey and such; Foxfire, as one of the villains who get brainwashed and later join the Squadron, was one of these. I suppose it's possible that there's someone she's 'inspired by' but just because Gruenwald was working with a Squadron Supreme that was very clearly the JLA with the serial numbers scratched off, he didn't seem to feel like he had to fit all his characters into that mold.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:25
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The Power Broker was a dude who gave people super-strength in exchange for money. D-Man, USAgent, Battlestar, Ms. Marvel II, a whole bunch of random D-list bad guys, they all got their powers from the Power Broker. Usually he also then blackmailed them and/or hooked them on drugs while he was at it, just in case he wasn't being a big enough dick. Then his operation got attacked by Scourge and he tried to give himself super-powers only things went wrong and he ended up so muscular that he couldn't, you know, move. Thus, the weird-rear end exoskeleton thing.
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Apr 8, 2017 01:31
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X-O posted:Skylark is based on a combination of Black Canary and Hawkgirl Note that Skylark was originally Lady Lark, a more direct Black Canary clone, who was involved with the Squadron's Hawkman clone; when he died, she took his wings as an homage to him and became Skylark.
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Apr 10, 2017 02:24
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NorgLyle posted:So the weirdest part about this entry is that Redstone didn't die at the end of the Squadron mini. I mean, he had basically no actual character or impact in the series so I don't care that much but it's weird that they randomly decided he was dead (the dude has no actual name, for example). Also it's possible he was supposed to be Native American which is kind of terrible. Redstone died in the Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe graphic novel. He actually got a thin shred of characterization as the Redeemer who was overseeing the Squadron's dismantling of their Utopia Program; he was pissed off that they weren't going fast enough. Then the Squadron members who were still alive at the end of the mini all got in a jet to go fly into space to try and stop their universe from being destroyed, and once they left the atmosphere Redstone sickened and died; it was briefly theorized that his strength came from a connection with the Earth, like Antaeus of myth, and when that connection was lost he kicked it. There was maybe two panels of addressing this in total. This is the same GN where Inertia tried to use her powers to push back the Big Glowy Thing that was going to eat the sun and the resultant feedback literally turned her into a fine red mist. A lot happened very fast, is what I'm getting at. I'm not sure why Gruenwald decided that that would be a good capstone to the Squadron - unless, now that I think of it, he was going for a kind of Crisis pastiche? That would fit him - but it was pretty brutal.
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Apr 10, 2017 03:53
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Selachian posted:I have nearly the entire run of Defenders, and Nighthawk II is the most boring, generic character ever. The only thing notable about him is how long he managed to stick with the Defenders when the membership was changing every other month or so. I actually kind of love that about Nighthawk; he tries so hard to turn the Defenders into a legit superhero team, and it never works.
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Apr 12, 2017 09:06
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I'm not 100% sure but I think she no longer has the ability to switch back to her human form. Tigra is just... weird. Like, every story centered on her becomes a giant clusterfuck.
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Apr 19, 2017 00:56
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I actually can't find any info to her losing the ability to transform now that I've gone looking for a few minutes; maybe I just imagined that. That said, anyone who's origins include the phrase "Unbeknownst to her her mentor was actually a member of the Cat People, a race of humanoids descended from cats" is just plain hosed up, man.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:if i recall correctly immediately after she had the skrull baby she hosed off to the subterranean cat people city and has yet to reappear. Nah, she showed up in Avengers Academy, baby in tow. Real Hank Pym ran tests and was like "huh, no Skrull DNA, those super skrulls that were impersonating human superheroes must have been something, huh" and then she asked him to look after the kid if anything happened to her since, you know, it was sort of his kid except not in a way that only comic books can be, and IIRC then she hosed off to the Cat People's city.
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Sabra is actually almost always depicted as awesome and badass. The whole "she decided to dedicate her life to fighting crime and terrorism after her son was killed in a terrorist bombing" bit is a little cliche, but by and large she's pretty awesome. There's a bit in one of her first appearances in The Incredible Hulk where she's all "it has taken a monster to make her see this young Arab boy as a human being" which is pretty heavy-handed, too, now that I look. Also the whole "Sabra and the Arabian Knight have issues but end up respecting each other" hearkens all the way back to the original Contest of Champions. It was her in Union Jack, btw. As is probably inescapable, Sabra's ethnicity is almost always front and center - there was a teased plot (that got dropped) in New Warriors where she and Justice almost had a bit of a thing, essentially because 'well, they're both Jewish,' but there don't seem to be too many horribly offensive and/or stereotypical and/or poorly thought-out issues with her. Sabra is cool. People should like Sabra.
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Yeah, Marvel Boy's bands later went to Quasar (EDIT: and IIRC in Quasar's first few appearances he flat out wore Marvel Boy's costume). He confused me so much when I came across his entry in a Marvel Superheroes RPG sourcebook.
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Apr 25, 2017 00:24
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Wheat Loaf posted:Marvel Boy was also a bad guy from a few issues of Fantastic Four in the 1970s (I'm guessing by Roy Thomas) under the name "Crusader". Specifically Fantastic Four #164, according to the "significant issues" bit in the posted entry there.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:05
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In a world where Atlanteans are running movie studios, I can only imagine that James Cameron's The Abyss was actually a romantic comedy.
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Apr 28, 2017 01:44
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HitTheTargets posted:Wait, Atlantis is a nation with a capital called Atlantis City? I'm used to DC where it's usually one and the same. How much more of the ocean do they control? Depends on their status quo at the time; they've had conquests and expansions and contractions and diasporas and such. This map is probably pretty out of date, but: 
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Apr 28, 2017 02:19
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Ghostlight posted:Is Seaweed Man the name of a city, a hero rooted to the seafloor, or just missing a comma? Something better.
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Apr 28, 2017 03:18
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Light Gun Man posted:So what made Dr Druid worth it enough to be in the Avengers? Did he have some crazy strong power or what? He was there. No, seriously; he basically showed up during the Siege Of Avengers Mansion arc and went "hey, this is hosed up, let me see if I can help" and he did, so poof, Avenger. Having said that, dude was a fairly powerful mystic; it's not like he made the team weaker (he sucked, but that's because of his characterization, not his abilities).
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May 16, 2017 20:09
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:I never realized how strongly Engelhart tied himself to Mantis, is she an ideal to him or more who he sees himself as? Does anyone really know (or care)? It's a character he liked writing for a story he wanted to tell. Doesn't have to get any deeper than that. Self-identification is not necessary for a writer to say "hey I have this cool character I created and I don't feel like I got to tell their story on my last book so I'm bringing them over to this book so I can try and tell the story I want to tell."
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May 16, 2017 23:56
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HitTheTargets posted:Isn't Marvel Boy a Kree mutant? I know he's technically from another universe, but was it one that had its own Operation Galactic Storm? Noh-Varr was engineered, IIRC, not a mutation.
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May 19, 2017 06:20
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Gatecrasher is great, Technet is great, this is inarguable. Alan Davis designs help a lot.
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May 21, 2017 03:02
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Don't forget Cannonball had a younger sister named Husk who could rip off her flesh to have a body made of whatever she could think of in a situation. Because they were from the Midwest, see. Don't know if she ever had corn-flesh though. Kentucky is the midwest? The Guthries are from coal country, dude. No, really - Cannonball's father died of black lung from working in a coal mine so young Sam dropped out of school to work in the same mine that killed his old man, and when there was a mine collapse that's what activated his mutant powers.
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The Thin Man is old school. How old school? Mystic comics #4, his first appearance, was dated August 1940. For reference, Captain America's first comics appearance, Captain America Comics #1, was dated March 1941. Check out the Thin Man's entry in this Marvel Wikia, it's pretty delightful.
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Jun 8, 2017 07:15
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I love Chondu the Mystic. Some other good Chondu looks:  These days he's a bartender. 
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Jun 10, 2017 02:04
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Lobok posted:Former alias: Bambi...? "mind transferred by Doctor Strange into body of fawn" What would YOU have called him afterwards?
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Tatterdemalion is awesome and I will fight you if you disagree. He is quite literally Captain Homeless Guy. He was a star, then he ran a casino, then the mob swindled him out of everything he owned, he started drinking, he became a derelict, he lived on the streets, and then he got recruited into an army of homeless people who were being controlled by ultrasonics on behalf of a group called The Committee - which was a bunch of L.A. businesspeople who thought a climate of fear would stimulate the economy. No, seriously. He wants to destroy money because it is the means by which the elite control the rest of us. He's the 99%.
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Jun 13, 2017 03:40
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Tiger Shark is basically "what if Sabretooth was half-fish?"
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Jun 14, 2017 04:28
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Stingray is inarguably cooler than several Avengers. Tigra, Dr. Druid, Swordsman, Mantis (fuckin' Mantis, man), Gilgamesh, Living Lightning, Silverclaw, Lionheart, Red goddamned Hulk, Masque, Magdalene... There have been SO MANY terrible Avengers, you guys.
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Hey, the Black Knight is awesome; I love that dude. He's a scientist and a technician and yet every time he turns around his world gets turned upside down by magic swords and the ghost of his dead ancestor and curses and such. For a long while there he kind of had to be the team's Iron Man (inventing poo poo to solve plots) and Captain America (physical combatant and strategist) all at the same time, all while also constantly striving not to go crazy. He deserves way more props than he gets.
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