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Raere posted:NTP is important and he should be funded unless he's working on some useless fork because principles
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 19:36 |
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# ¿ May 3, 2024 15:05 |
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Open Source Safe Space
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 10:20 |
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quote:On that level, it is possible in principle that I could be persuaded by cool features and a winning cost-benefit ratio. Or even if somebody offered me a sufficiently huge pile of money — enough, say, to finance a space program run from a Bond-supervillain-style fortress on my own Caribbean island. But it doesn’t matter. Because there’s an emotional place where I have no give, and that is in is my visceral, steaming hatred of the production system that Microsoft exemplifies. I refuse to support it in any way, no matter how shiny the products look to other people. I will have no part of helping it do to the young, malleable, innocent programmers of today and tomorrow what was done to me and my peers.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 17:25 |
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fun fact: tim paterson, who retired around the age of 35 or so, used to have a tin cup tacked to his office door at microsoft because he read an article in the seattle times suggesting that they bought the DOS rights from him and left him in the gutter
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 19:09 |
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raymond is the leading contributor to ntpsec so you can't necessarily say he's been slacking otoh his commits don't seem particularly issue-driven compared to commits in the ntp project. he spends an undue amount of time on small-scale code hygiene and the build system i kinda want him to take a job not just to pay the bills but to refresh his project management skills. as valuable as code hygiene is, someone with his level of exp should be able to take on more strategic improvements rather than piddling around c99 conversion
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 00:13 |
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he wrote the emacs vc driver and has contributed to it substantially over the years admittedly this does point to a pattern in his behavior (spelled out in the cathedral and the bazaar) that he only wants to do work that seems helpful to him as a coder
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 01:33 |
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power botton posted:please state your sources
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 03:27 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:commit to continuing your post career elsewhere thx 4 the tip but i'm not a "career" poster .. more of a freelance posting consultant
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 04:52 |
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from raymond's partner in time crime https://binaryredneck.net/2010/09/11/hacker-culture-not-optional/ i'm completely indifferent to everything on that list as are my co-workers, yet somehow we manage to make software?
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 17:34 |
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eschaton posted:esr insists he is working on vital infrastructure but voluntary contributions aren't covering the costs The reason that press reports on ntpsec tend not to mention the split, apparently, is that susan sons herself doesn't mention it. she just talks all about how her team has "rescued" ntp (She criticized the principal dev for being old & out of touch. he's the same age as raymond)
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2017 21:30 |
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Suspicious posted:how does an uberlibertarian even end up believing in free software? strongly compartmentalized thinking?
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 04:19 |
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"the heroic age of micros" aka the period when you could pass yourself off as a big shot without much to show for it. much like eric raymond
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 20:52 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:ntpsec shouldn't exist. its main "feature" is deleting code from the mainstream ntp project.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2017 20:57 |
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Doc Block posted:"gently caress." is indeed the correct response when esr announces he's started paying attention to a mailing list again. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2000-August/008030.html Guido posted:[ESR] aside from that he wrote some docs for curses.wrapper, said that certain things were good ideas and someone should do them, and argued about whether xml is a language and of course signed every e-mail with a random quote about wanting to shoot someone
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 23:50 |
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code:
28134 - 44794 + Python (1990-present): 1298 - 2575 + NTPsec (1999-present): 570686 - 208250 + Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Feb 20, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 03:32 |
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i went ahead and refined the stats a little because i do want to be fair and also i can't pass up a chance to shell scriptcode:
30999 added 17243 deleted 7855 modified Python: 1338 added 241 deleted 995 modified NTPsec: 152225 added 470953 deleted 31458 modified (for entertainment purposes only) Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Feb 20, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 04:49 |
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"hacker identity" is just another way of saying "poor"
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 08:48 |
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PCjr sidecar posted:2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNIng Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Feb 23, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 15:43 |
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JawnV6 posted:the original docs were boring so we made a complex manpage-to-HTML transcoding solution
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 21:44 |
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George posted:yeah the jokes write themselves
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 22:29 |
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if only ihtler had been content to LARP his narcissistic ambitions
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2017 16:07 |
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I'm dead
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2017 21:30 |
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Of course he addresses himself to the "dear reader" . Of course he does
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 23:17 |
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You want to make a contribution Yeah you know We all want to change the world You've got a software solution Yeah you know We all want to change the world But when you talk about disruption Well you can count me out
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 23:54 |
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granted that some sjws don't know how to chill, anti-sjws respond by demonstrating that they, too, can refuse to chill
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# ¿ May 7, 2017 05:11 |
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lol if some half your age accuses you of being a bigot and you don't respond with "ok whatever"
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# ¿ May 7, 2017 06:22 |
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Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 07:03 on May 7, 2017 |
# ¿ May 7, 2017 06:54 |
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i don't care if his definition of "unsafe" is silly. throwing the same inflammatory language back at him, in public view, is irresponsible & not conducive to desired outcomes
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# ¿ May 7, 2017 07:22 |
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"programmer"
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# ¿ May 12, 2017 17:54 |